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    It’s truly sad to see what’s happening to the believers.

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    No crime needed? Seriously?
    You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we had a detailed sidebar on that.

    Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.

    I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
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    I don’t remember after it’s quoted
    you're making no sense. the post you quoted is identical to the post that appears on this page.

    keep deflecting from the question at hand, though . the honest answer makes you look stupid

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    Oh yes all your contributions have been about legal issues
    i didn't say all. i said "the main thing" had been legal issues.

    you can feel free to try to dig up a post where i claimed trump would be impeached/indicted or that his kids would be going to prison. i think it's going to be pretty difficult imo.

    but just jogging my memory, the only time i felt there was any actual jeopardy was after he fired comey because imo that smelt of obstruction. and then the reports later that he was considering firing mueller. i thought those were the behaviors of either a guilty or a scared man.

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    You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.

    Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.

    I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
    There was/is a criminal investigation. Were you unfamiliar with that?

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    you're making no sense. the post you quoted is identical to the post that appears on this page.

    keep deflecting from the question at hand, though . the honest answer makes you look stupid

    It was not identical when I posted. I’ve seen it happen before so no harm no foul. Your question was answered regardless.

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    i didn't say all. i said "the main thing" had been legal issues.

    you can feel free to try to dig up a post where i claimed trump would be impeached/indicted or that his kids would be going to prison. i think it's going to be pretty difficult imo.

    but just jogging my memory, the only time i felt there was any actual jeopardy was after he fired comey because imo that smelt of obstruction. and then the reports later that he was considering firing mueller. i thought those were the behaviors of either a guilty or a scared man.
    Did you forget what Trump said about the investigation lengthening after firing Comey and being okay with that?
    Did you forget about all of the demo trays calling out for the firing of Comey?

    I never claimed you said Trump would be impeached/indicted, but to pretend you weren’t wishing for it is disingenuous.

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    You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.

    Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.

    I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
    Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the are you rambling about?

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    No crime needed? Seriously?
    How silly of anyone to think that!

    Remember Benghazi and all those convicted criminals in that fiasco? Remember all the indictments and all those crimes -

    this is why they absolutely had the right to spend millions investigating HRC-

    oh - wait!



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    Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the are you rambling about?
    It was both a CI and an obstruction of justice - and - a conspiracy investigation.

    This is what McCabe set in place and he made sure Rosenstein had no choice but to appoint a Special Counsel.


    McCabe - sealed Trumps fate before getting rail-roaded out of the FBI!


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    You seem to be unfamiliar with the methods of counterintelligence.Somewhere, in this vast thread, we has a detailed sidebar on that.

    Different evidentiary thresholds apply. No probable cause is needed for CI investigations.

    I doubt there was any lack of probable cause, given the prevalence of the Five Eyes, but even if there weren't, that would be no impediment.
    This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.

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    This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.
    You’ve now stopped to Spurs Homer’s level of stupidity. I was shocked wine went there as well. Mueller was not running a counterintelligence investigation.

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    This. I have little doubt that Mueller has been fed stuff here and there by intel people more htan happy to over the president. Make enemies of them at your peril. I can only think of the speech he gave criticizing the CIA in front of the wall of stars denoting people killed int he line of duty.

    The irony of you bringing up the CIA is going to be all time.

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    There was/is a criminal investigation. Were you unfamiliar with that?
    I understand it Mueller is working on two tracks. The criminal track as I understand it relates to at least two angles: Russian activities related to the 2016 election, and (possible) obstruction of justice by DJT. All of it subsequent to the CI investigation.

    If you think there's no good reason for Mueller to consider obstruction of justice or prosecute Russians for participating in American political campaigns, you're either a very dense person or a tragic case of motivated reasoning.

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    thanks for admitting you’re deflecting from anything having to do with this thread.
    On the contrary, you used your conspiracy theories to deflect from the thread topic for years.

    That’s an exact number for three years of participation in this thread. Can you state your conspiracy theory one more time, for s and giggles.
    So you do claim to never have heard it.

    lol TSA forever

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    Mueller was not a CI investigation. What the are you rambling about?
    He was handed the CI investigation from the FBI. It continues to this day under his supervision.

    Possibly.

    in the days following the firing of James Comey, the FBI opened an investigation of President Trump. It wasn’t simply the obstruction investigation that many of us have assumed. It was also a counterintelligence investigation predicated on the notion that the president’s own actions might cons ute a national security threat
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-if-...test-bombs

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    This is what happens when you avoid stuff that doesn't back up your priors.

    You miss important news.

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    It’s truly sad to see what’s happening to the believers.
    It's happened to you four or five times over and you've never lived it down.

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    Mueller has (possibly) had all the tools of counterintelligence at his disposal all along. It's probably how he caught everyone (who's gone to jail or soon will) lying.

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    The irony of you bringing up the CIA is going to be all time.
    Your latest conspiracy theory....

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    It's probably also why DJT is freaking out on the reg. Even if Mueller has nothing on DJT, Ivanka and Kushner are probably cooked.

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    I understand it Mueller is working on two tracks. The criminal track as I understand it relates to at least two angles: Russian activities related to the 2016 election, and (possible) obstruction of justice by DJT. All of it subsequent to the CI investigation.

    If you think there's no good reason for Mueller to consider obstruction of justice or prosecute Russians for participating in American political campaigns, you're either a very dense person or a tragic case of motivated reasoning.
    Russian activities can and should be investigated by the FBI. Can you tell me what crime occurred that had Mueller investigating Trump/campaign.

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    It's happened to you four or five times over and you've never lived it down.
    passive admission

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    It's probably also why DJT is freaking out on the reg. Even if Mueller has nothing on DJT, Ivanka and Kushner are probably cooked.


    Want the same bet dip djohn took?

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    Want the same bet dip djohn took?
    Nah, I don't do prognostication. It would be a mistake to presume legal exposure is zero, same as presuming guilt.

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