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    Hi

    Read the stuff about Lou Williams having scored the most bench points in NBA history, passing Dell Curry and Jamal Crawford? Anyways, expected Manu to be up there as well. Maybe McHale?

    Anyone have a link to that record?

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    Lou Williams is a hollow points scorer. Empty stats. Manu brought the intangibles fwiw tbh.

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    From that chart, Manu is 7th. But what’s impressive is he has lowest FG attempts of the ones ahead of him and he has one of the lower minutes played.

    Like a baawwssss!

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    Manu began his nba career at the age of 25. Didn't really start scoring until 27. Had he started at 19, he would hold the record for a long time.

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    manu also started a bunch... he wanst a 6th man his whole career

    manu started 349 of his 1057 nba games, which is about a 3rd of his NBA career. to put that into some perspective, starting 349 games is over 4 full seasons worth.

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    As mentioned above, Manu started a lot of games - so the number of bench games for him is lower. He also played for Pop, on teams that were always among the slowest pace teams in the league. When you're playing in slow-pace games, you're putting up fewer total shots. No way around it.

    When you look at the total package - PTS, AST, RB, STL, BLK, 2P%, 3P%, FTA you see that Manu was probably more of a complete player than the six guys above him on the points list. And that doesn't take into account that Manu was a damn tough defender, on a team that demanded playing on both ends of the floor.

    Bot don't take anything away from the guys above him on the list. Every one of them were/are damn good ballers.

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    Manu is in the same league as Wade. No comparison. Let the dude score his points. Empty stats. Please see 2005 Pistons series. Dude's a ing (4x) champion.

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    Manu is in the same league as Wade. No comparison. Let the dude score his points. Empty stats. Please see 2005 Pistons series. Dude's a ing (4x) champion.

    nope, wade had a higher ceiling

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    nope, wade had a higher ceiling
    He needed charity to beat Dirk in 06, tbh.

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    nope, wade had a higher ceiling
    Respectfully disagree.

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    Manu is in the same league as Wade. No comparison. Let the dude score his points. Empty stats. Please see 2005 Pistons series. Dude's a ing (4x) champion.
    nope, wade had a higher ceiling
    Respectfully disagree.

    WTF are you two yammering about? Higher ceiling? One guy is retired, and the other is done this year, and you're talking about ceiling?

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    WTF are you two yammering about? Higher ceiling? One guy is retired, and the other is done this year, and you're talking about ceiling?
    Manu's Living room has a 14 foot ceiling, Wade's Living room a 12 foot ceiling.

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    Manu began his nba career at the age of 25. Didn't really start scoring until 27. Had he started at 19, he would hold the record for a long time.
    If manu started in the NBA at 19, he would become a starter in a couple years and never relinquish the role. It was different at 24.

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    nope, wade had a higher ceiling
    Nobody is copying Wade style, he didn't innovate anything. Super player, for sure, but didn't add anything to "the basketball". Manu changed basketball in many ways.

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    Nobody is copying Wade style, he didn't innovate anything. Super player, for sure, but didn't add anything to "the basketball". Manu changed basketball in many ways.
    so what if somebody copied manu? It will not erase the fact that wade was a better nba player than manu..

    manu Was a better 3pt shooter and passer though..that’s it.
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    Manu began his nba career at the age of 25. Didn't really start scoring until 27. Had he started at 19, he would hold the record for a long time.
    And he didn't start coming off the bench much until 2008 or so

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    so what if somebody copied manu? It will not erase the fact that wade was a better nba player than manu..

    manu Was a better 3pt shooter and passer though..that’s it.
    No he wasn't. Ginobili was an innovator and that, by definition, makes him a "better player". You mix up flashyness, dunks, all-star-game adolescent entertainement with basketball. Different things, by a mile.

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    And he didn't start coming off the bench much until 2008 or so
    he started playing off the bench in 2006 or 2007.
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    No he wasn't. Ginobili was an innovator and that, by definition, makes him a "better player". You mix up flashyness, dunks, all-star-game adolescent entertainement with basketball. Different things, by a mile.
    wade is better, don’t discredit the accolades.

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    he started playing off the bench in 2006 or 2007.
    True, although he did still start a significant amount of games in the 2007 and 2008 seasons, and then started 79/80 games in 2010-2011.

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    wade is better, don’t discredit the accolades.
    yeah that .29 career 3 point %age is pretty dazzling.

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    True, although he did still start a significant amount of games in the 2007 and 2008 seasons, and then started 79/80 games in 2010-2011.
    even in 2003 he played of the bench..
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