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Plus, if you do that, either of them can always team up with the bench guys, and LW IV as the off guard, and run the show.
It's never a bad thing to have two guys who can run point. Just ask the Bad Boys, or the current edition of the Trailblazers.
White pulls down a very respectable 6.9 RB per 100 possessions. The always-overlooked DeRozan pulls down 8.4. And Murray was getting a freakish 13.3 RB per 100 possessions last season (substantially more than Anderson). I don't know where 28.6 RB per 100 ranks in NBA frontcourts, but I have to think it's pretty damn high.
Plus, if you do that, either of them can always team up with the bench guys, and LW IV as the off guard, and run the show.
It's never a bad thing to have two guys who can run point. Just ask the Bad Boys, or the current edition of the Trailblazers.
It'll be nice if the Spurs draft Matisse Thybulle and Spurstalk is having these same "who's better on D" debates between Murray, White, and Thybulle.
White being a 6th man and playing around 28 mpg isn't taking a back seat White would be able to run the offense for long stretches while Murray and DeRozan share the playmaking responsibility in the SL.
Murray was the starter before he got injured and deserves a chance to try to live up to that potential. It was clear that PATFO thought Murray was ready to breakout before he got injured and they tend to be right about things like that. I think that there is a way that they can both coexist without stepping on each other's toes, bringing White off the bench is a way to do that.
I am not arguing that they can't coexist. Of course they can and it makes the Spurs a better team.
But to argue that Murray is in the same league as White is ludicrous.
White is the best player in the Spurs team and there's a reason why he is. Murray is just a role player, just like Forbes is a role player.
Citation needed....cf ayres,
PATFO thought that Kawhi was going to be a star-he is, White was going to be really good, he is. When it comes to evaluating their own prospects, they tend to be right. Had Murray not gotten injured, he may have had a breakout year.
lol mentioning that scrub murray in this this to keep him relevant...
I don't think it's ludicrous. Murray's biggest flaw was his shooting but he had apparently made major strides in that regard. I would say White is a more complete player at this point but I still consider Murray to have a higher ceiling. Murray is certainly better than Forbes tbh, I'd argue that his defensive impact is stronger than Forbes offensive impact.
If DDR could only hit the three...
Then White & Murry and DDR really work..and you can then mix in MVPatty, Forbes and LWIV
Teach Murry and DDR to hit a better percentage 3...then you got something
So you'd agree with me about not being sure of Murray being better than White at defense.
Personally I'd have to think about it. Murray I think is a little bigger and stronger, seems to be more quick twitch although I realize White is also pretty athletic and can move his feet quick himself. Defensively Murray reminds me of a mini Kawhi and White reminds me more of Green, maybe that's not a great comparison idk but that's how I kinda see it.
If Murray can shoot I think it'll work. If he can't I don't think he will start. DDR isn't going to shoot the 3 better, at least I don't think so, so he'll have to learn how to play within the offense.
murrys all defensive 2nd team selection last year, wtf did he shut down? didnt shut down anyone, all he did was crash the boards as a pg, hence nothing more then a consolation prize by the nba for pop losing all his key players and injuries
Don't really know that the argument matters - Pop will get it figured out, and in the mean time as long as Murray has even marginally improved his jumper both guys will play at least 28 mins and probably more, and I expect both to be on the floor to close out games.
The real question is will PATFO be willing to do what it takes to get a legit starting caliber 3. We have played the whole year without a real SF, and will have no chance to truly contend until that gets resolved.
He's in with LeBron. He's a good defender, but it was all hype.
to keep himself relevant, relies on playerfans and doing stupid on his social media... reminds me of that other french turd on the team one time...
didnt want others get the lime light, has to remind everyone his still relevant by doing stupid off the court...
looks like he murry learnt some from that pos
It's just not that simple. Tim was a defensive monster, but he wasn't out on the perimeter like Bruce Bowen. I really think comparing White and Murray this way is an exercise in futility and a recipe for non-stop arguing. They are both very good defensive guards. And the Spurs have them both.
Think he's trying to say. Why does it matter?
It's incredible how many of you grouchy old gots care about how a kid uses social media. Timmy was a unicorn, you shouldn't expect young millionaires to be like him.
I like how outgoing and confident DJ is. I think he's good for the team morale and I like that he's bringing attention to the team. You want your players to be supremely confident and motivated
hasnt proven on the court
Tonight is exhibit A of why I think we need to temper our expectations of White. He is too inconsistent on offense. I know he had 7 dimes but he can't get away with 1-5 shooting on most nights, particularly next season when Murray is chomping at the bit to prove his worth as the starting PG. In other words, stop crowning White already and let's see who wins the job outright by next preseason. He certainly can't get away with nights like this in the playoffs.
That's fine. Second year player. Playing the most basketball in his life. Didn't have a proper training camp. Probably a little banged up. Playoffs is the biggest test and team scout your tendencies.
It’s some weirdos on this site. Lol.
Im looking forward to seeing the improvement of the Spurs young players next season. I think Murray and White will end up starting together in the backcourt and hopefully they mesh well enough for it to work for many years to follow
yep, some people here know that we need to wait longer before putting White as the greatest player in basketball history
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