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    https://streamable.com/g2mqt

    "Stolen" from Raptorfans.

    Must see TV.

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    Season that keeps on giving

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    Clippers - will be next after the raptors

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    Uncle Denis will hire assasins kill all of you, and rule Canada.

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    Parker is loyal, kawhi is a snake.
    so loyal he slept with a teammate’s wife.

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    Parker said that the Spurs did in fact offer similar money to Charlotte, despite what rumors were saying.
    tony also said that he only said his injury was 100 times worse is because a reporter asked him to compare their injuries... which isn’t what the reporter asked at all.

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    so loyal he slept with a teammate’s wife.
    spurs patfo pulled a mavs patfo by keep employing this pos instead of allowing him to go to another team cucking other players....

    dunno why they overbid for his services on his loyalty contract, yet they wanna keep him around for another year with lesser role for 5m... why keep him around? when u know there is tension between him and kawhi...

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    WOJ circa 2018: "The last straw for him, I was told, was when Tony Parker made those comments about 'my quad injury was 100 times worse.' And if you remember, shortly after, Kawhi Leonard left San Antonio and didn't want to be a part of that media glare there, and did not come back until the season was over with."

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    WOJ circa 2018: "The last straw for him, I was told, was when Tony Parker made those comments about 'my quad injury was 100 times worse.' And if you remember, shortly after, Kawhi Leonard left San Antonio and didn't want to be a part of that media glare there, and did not come back until the season was over with."
    They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

    If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide. Its come out that the spurs offered him the super max ... But yet the if he let out about his "injury", he wouldn't get it....

    And again, just speaks to either how weak minded Quitter was if a misquote/scenario with TP was. Or more likely his "camp" pounced on that misquote to fabricate a reason to disappear for good.

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    tony also said that he only said his injury was 100 times worse is because a reporter asked him to compare their injuries... which isn’t what the reporter asked at all.
    Here is the video ( https://www.kens5.com/video/sports/n...ry/273-8045285 )...the question asked (about 2:20 mark) was "What's you guys' message to Kawhi", and he answers drawing upon his own injury experience...but if you let it run a bit longer, you'll hear another reporter further asking Tony about his injury and what he did to comeback... it may be that he's just misremembering the sequences of questions asked. Also based on the flow of interview, it's pretty clear that he answered the original question about message with reference to his own injury, i.e., does he have a particular insight to share with Kawhi given what he went through. It's all pretty innocuous. But, sure, you also can't rule out that he just lies when it suits him.
    Last edited by toki9; 03-22-2019 at 09:28 AM.

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    They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

    If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide. Its come out that the spurs offered him the super max ... But yet the if he let out about his "injury", he wouldn't get it....

    And again, just speaks to either how weak minded Quitter was if a misquote/scenario with TP was. Or more likely his "camp" pounced on that misquote to fabricate a reason to disappear for good.
    Isn't all the "load management" that Kawhi's been doing this season consistent with Spurs' diagnosis that it was a long term issue that had to be managed? This was probably always about money, i.e., the Supermax. When the team told Kawhi and his uncle two summers agon that Kawhi had a chronic issue, the uncle probably thought it was just the Spurs trying to lowball Kawhi...and everything probably spun out of control from that. It may have been exacerbated by the fact that the team couldn't even offer the supermax until this past summer. Actually, tt wouldn't be suprising if Kawhi's uncle and the football agent weren't even aware that they couldn't offer the supermax until this past summer and instead believed the delay in offering the supermax was just the team was trying to negotiate in bad faith.

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    They've never actually said what his "injury" was... It was so devastating that it took 10 orthopedic surgeons to "evaluate" him to find what the problem was. A real injury is 100x worse than a made up one.

    If he had a real injury, then he had nothing to hide.
    Not entirely true.
    If he had/has a chronic condition on his quad tendon (like the Spurs doctors version of a diagnosis of chronic quad tendinopathy,his quad tendon periodically geting inflammation and needing of rest) then he has a LOT of incentives to actually hide that injury and mask it as a calcified quad muscle.

    Why? Well cause he was approaching his contract year,was gonna get a supermax from the Spurs of a max from another team.It was/is his big pay day.A chronic situation on your quad is not a good look at this time.

    Having said that,irregardless of injury or no injury,he can go himself tbh

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    It's clear the guy, perhaps with the encouragement of his group, no longer wanted to play in San Antonio for one reason or another. He might not have liked the roster construction (Gasol/Mills over Dedmon/Simmons), lack of younger talent on the roster, tired of Pop's military style, sick of Parker, not wanting to share the ball with Aldridge, etc. He and his group looked for reasons to leave such as the perceived disrespect at the ASG and not being consulted on the roster construction. The medical issues just allowed him and his group a more substantive way of exiting. This wasn't about money or endorsements.
    By us offering the Super Max, he will lose millions by signing with the Clippers and California's 13.3% income tax. We all have friends that have gone through messy breakups and some of them come up with a litany of nutty excuses why they want out.

    He just didn't want to live in San Antonio and play for the Spurs any longer.

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    Isn't all the "load management" that Kawhi's been doing this season consistent with Spurs' diagnosis that it was a long term issue that had to be managed? This was probably always about money, i.e., the Supermax. When the team told Kawhi and his uncle two summers agon that Kawhi had a chronic issue, the uncle probably thought it was just the Spurs trying to lowball Kawhi...and everything probably spun out of control from that. It may have been exacerbated by the fact that the team couldn't even offer the supermax until this past summer. Actually, tt wouldn't be suprising if Kawhi's uncle and the football agent weren't even aware that they couldn't offer the supermax until this past summer and instead believed the delay in offering the supermax was just the team was trying to negotiate in bad faith.
    His load management is his camp telling the Raptors that Kwahi doesn't feel like playing today. Team has no say in it and can't say anything because if they did, it would hurt in there bid to keep him in Toronto ... It doesn't prove or disprove anything about an "injury".

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    Not entirely true.
    If he had/has a chronic condition on his quad tendon (like the Spurs doctors version of a diagnosis of chronic quad tendinopathy,his quad tendon periodically geting inflammation and needing of rest) then he has a LOT of incentives to actually hide that injury and mask it as a calcified quad muscle.

    Why? Well cause he was approaching his contract year,was gonna get a supermax from the Spurs of a max from another team.It was/is his big pay day.A chronic situation on your quad is not a good look at this time.

    Having said that,irregardless of injury or no injury,he can go himself tbh

    He hid from the Spurs doctors and the Spurs. Chronic quad tendinopathy is analogous to scarring. He played the whole previous season even after the initial injury they indicated and nearly had an MVP season. The more time that has passed, the more I think that the injury was completely fake.

    It was a "medical" hold out. His uncle/family decided they wanted out of SA the summer before last.

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    Are you idiots still litigating why he left? Who cares! Go outside. Ride your bike.

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    It's clear the guy, perhaps with the encouragement of his group, no longer wanted to play in San Antonio for one reason or another. He might not have liked the roster construction (Gasol/Mills over Dedmon/Simmons), lack of younger talent on the roster, tired of Pop's military style, sick of Parker, not wanting to share the ball with Aldridge, etc. He and his group looked for reasons to leave such as the perceived disrespect at the ASG and not being consulted on the roster construction. The medical issues just allowed him and his group a more substantive way of exiting. This wasn't about money or endorsements.
    By us offering the Super Max, he will lose millions by signing with the Clippers and California's 13.3% income tax. We all have friends that have gone through messy breakups and some of them come up with a litany of nutty excuses why they want out.

    He just didn't want to live in San Antonio and play for the Spurs any longer.
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    No more back-to-backs for the Raptors. Will Load Management still sit out games?

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    No more back-to-backs for the Raptors. Will Load Management still sit out games?
    He’s already sat games with that weren’t back to backs.

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    He’s already sat games with that weren’t back to backs.
    True. I could be wrong but this must be the first time in league history that a player deemed healthy has not played full back-to-backs in a whole season.

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/after-two-d...044213095.html

    “We’ll see how it goes moving forward, but me missing games isn’t just to keep me fresh,” Leonard said Friday, via SportsNet’s Michael Grange. “It’s obviously making sure I don’t re-injure something that I was out for last year. Like I said before, they’ve been doing a good job of reading images and making sure that I’m improving instead of declining on the health side.”

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    Paul George has spoken to Kawhi Leonard about free agency experience

    Paul George said he's spoken to Kawhi about his experience in a similar situation last year (coming to a new team and facing free agency before ultimately deciding to stay in OKC). What advice did he have? "That's between us."
    https://sports.yahoo.com/paul-george...140039056.html

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    Uncle Denis will hire assasins kill all of you, and rule Canada.
    That's not a sentence you see everyday.

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    Ha. Don't care what he does at this point. My guess is that he resigns or goes to the Clippers. I guess that's not really going out on a limb though.

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