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    Brandon Clarke may be playing himself into the first round.

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    Read somewhere that Jontay Porter retore his ACL?

    Yep. Very, very sad day for that young man.

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    Anyone know if Rui Hachimura ok? Or just having a bad game?

    It looked like Clarke just had the hot hand. I turned that game because it looked like Zaga was just too much better than Baylor. I expected Hachimura to put up some numbers in the second half.


    Ja Morant showed how to advance your case for the draft, even when your team loses.

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    It looked like Clarke just had the hot hand. I turned that game because it looked like Zaga was just too much better than Baylor. I expected Hachimura to put up some numbers in the second half.


    Ja Morant showed how to advance your case for the draft, even when your team loses.
    Yep, Ja is the real deal.

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    How much would our team potentially improve with Naz and Matisse?
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    If anybody's interested in watching Chuma Okeke, Auburn is playing Kansas right now. Okeke wears #5.

    While you're at it, here's an article about him. He sounds almost too much like a Spur.

    https://www.oanow.com/sports/college...7715b49c7.html

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    Okeke had a quiet game - 12 points, 5 boards, 4 AST, and a block or two. They didn't call his name a lot on D, because Kansas didn't challenge him often. A few things to like about him that you won't hear them talk about much:

    He's the guy inbounding the ball, every single time. Because he's smart and makes good decisions, and he's a good passer.

    He boxes out on the defensive boards better than anyone on the current Spurs roster. He gets his position early, but then he stays with it. Too often, Spurs players will leave their guy to try and go for the rebound themselves. Okeke doesn't mind letting a teammate get the rebound - he makes sure his guy is out of the play. He gets his share, but his team (and teammates) really benefit from his body work. It's one of the things I about all the time with these Spurs.

    He does a good job of keeping himself in position to keep an eye on both man and ball. (Got that Patty, Bryn, Marco?) He stays at home on defense, but his recognition and timing is very good for when to come over and help.

    Tonight Auburn just wiped the floor with Kansas. Bryce Brown was unconscious shooting, and Jared Harper wasn't far behind, so Okeke didn't have to do much scoring. Next game they meet the winner of Washington-UNC. I don't like Washington's chances of winning that one, but of they do we would actually get to see Thybulle and Okeke on the floor at the same time.

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    Okeke had a quiet game - 12 points, 5 boards, 4 AST, and a block or two. They didn't call his name a lot on D, because Kansas didn't challenge him often. A few things to like about him that you won't hear them talk about much:

    He's the guy inbounding the ball, every single time. Because he's smart and makes good decisions, and he's a good passer.

    He boxes out on the defensive boards better than anyone on the current Spurs roster. He gets his position early, but then he stays with it. Too often, Spurs players will leave their guy to try and go for the rebound themselves. Okeke doesn't mind letting a teammate get the rebound - he makes sure his guy is out of the play. He gets his share, but his team (and teammates) really benefit from his body work. It's one of the things I about all the time with these Spurs.

    He does a good job of keeping himself in position to keep an eye on both man and ball. (Got that Patty, Bryn, Marco?) He stays at home on defense, but his recognition and timing is very good for when to come over and help.

    Tonight Auburn just wiped the floor with Kansas. Bryce Brown was unconscious shooting, and Jared Harper wasn't far behind, so Okeke didn't have to do much scoring. Next game they meet the winner of Washington-UNC. I don't like Washington's chances of winning that one, but of they do we would actually get to see Thybulle and Okeke on the floor at the same time.
    The only guy who sounded more like a Spur recently was Malcolm Brogdon, and the Spurs passed on him. If they have a chance and pass on Okeke, I will be pissed all over again. I really want this guy.

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    Brandon Clarke may be playing himself into the first round.
    He's been projected as a lotto pick most of the year. He'd be a huge pickup for the Spurs, even at 19 or whatever. Dude can flat-out play, just like White could coming out of school. Defensively, he can play with another center easily. Offensively, he probably needs an outside shot, especially if the Spurs run with LMA, Poeltl and a third traditional center.

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    Don't be surprised if the Spurs do a draft day trade involving Murray to move up to take a guy they like.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they do this because Murray is coming up on contract negotiations soon and clutch sports management is most definitely going to ask for the max amount allowed even though Murray will most likely still be some what of a project player. Plus out of all the players on the roster he is the one most GM'S would want to trade for.

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    The only guy who sounded more like a Spur recently was Malcolm Brogdon, and the Spurs passed on him. If they have a chance and pass on Okeke, I will be pissed all over again. I really want this guy.
    Need I remind you that 29 other teams also passed on him in the first round?

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    Love some Clarke. Thing Spurs would have to move up to get him.

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    Don't be surprised if the Spurs do a draft day trade involving Murray to move up to take a guy they like.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they do this because Murray is coming up on contract negotiations soon and clutch sports management is most definitely going to ask for the max amount allowed even though Murray will most likely still be some what of a project player. Plus out of all the players on the roster he is the one most GM'S would want to trade for.
    Yeah, don't know if I buy that. He missed a full year of development and the Spurs thought he was ready to break out prior to his injury, they'd be trading him before knowing whether he ever reaches his potiential.

    Teams aren't likely to give up much unless they see him back healthy and producing, and that probably won't be until he gets a couple of months of games back.

    Murray would really have to break out in order for clutch to try the Tristan Thompson/ Eric Bledsoe route, in that case the Spurs would probably be willing to pay him because that means he will have leap frogged White-who currently looks like he could be a well above average starting guard for years to come, as a prospect.
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    Yep. Very, very sad day for that young man.
    Read somewhere that his siblings have also had serious, leg or knee issues. Two of his sister's had to quit playing ball because of leg injuries and his older brother missed this season with a ALC tear iirc.

    Hard to imagine Jontay going in the first now unfortunately.

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    Yeah, don't know if I buy that. He missed a full year of development and the Spurs thought he was ready to break out prior to his injury, they'd be trading him before knowing whether he ever reaches his potiential.

    Teams aren't likely to give up much unless they see him back healthy and producing, and that probably won't be until he gets a couple of months of games back.

    Murray would really have to break out in order for clutch to try the Tristan Thompson/ Eric Bledsoe route, in that case the Spurs would probably be willing to pay him because that means he will have leap frogged White-who currently looks like he could be a well above average starting guard for years to come, as a prospect.
    I honestly believe that teams would be willing to trade down a bit in the draft if he is attached to the pick. There are a lot of people who think he is better than he actually is which works in the Spurs favor. ACL injuries are far from being the death blow they used to be for athletes, especially this being his 1st time and being so young to boot.

    I think Murray has talent but I also think he was a long way from being an actual point guard and him missing this season might set him back with that development. The team has a glut of guards and could use one or 2 of them as trade chips to move up in the draft or maybe even get a young veteran.

    Clutch sports is going to try their best to get Murray and all their clients paid. Hopefully you are right though and they don't try to play hardball with a guy who is still trying to prove his worth

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    Okeke had a quiet game - 12 points, 5 boards, 4 AST, and a block or two. They didn't call his name a lot on D, because Kansas didn't challenge him often. A few things to like about him that you won't hear them talk about much:

    He's the guy inbounding the ball, every single time. Because he's smart and makes good decisions, and he's a good passer.

    He boxes out on the defensive boards better than anyone on the current Spurs roster. He gets his position early, but then he stays with it. Too often, Spurs players will leave their guy to try and go for the rebound themselves. Okeke doesn't mind letting a teammate get the rebound - he makes sure his guy is out of the play. He gets his share, but his team (and teammates) really benefit from his body work. It's one of the things I about all the time with these Spurs.

    He does a good job of keeping himself in position to keep an eye on both man and ball. (Got that Patty, Bryn, Marco?) He stays at home on defense, but his recognition and timing is very good for when to come over and help.

    Tonight Auburn just wiped the floor with Kansas. Bryce Brown was unconscious shooting, and Jared Harper wasn't far behind, so Okeke didn't have to do much scoring. Next game they meet the winner of Washington-UNC. I don't like Washington's chances of winning that one, but of they do we would actually get to see Thybulle and Okeke on the floor at the same time.
    After looking at his season stats and watching him play more I think I'm in the same boat as you. He could be a really good pick up who might be able to play sooner rather than later for the big squad. The sad thing is I bet he gets picked before our selection
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    Need I remind you that 29 other teams also passed on him in the first round?
    Not sure what that means. The only team I root for and wanted to draft the guy passed on him. That's all that matters to me. He was certainly not a lotto pick, but would have been okay at 29.

    But I wasn't even really talking about the relative merit of the pick. Dijon may turn out better in the long run. We shall see. But in the aftermath of the draft I was disappointed and pissed that a guy I had rooted for his entire college career and who desperately wanted to become a Spur and was a perfect fit didn't end up with my guys.

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    He's been projected as a lotto pick most of the year. He'd be a huge pickup for the Spurs, even at 19 or whatever. Dude can flat-out play, just like White could coming out of school. Defensively, he can play with another center easily. Offensively, he probably needs an outside shot, especially if the Spurs run with LMA, Poeltl and a third traditional center.
    I haven't followed many mocks, and I really only check them every once in awhile. I haven't really followed Clarke, individually, either. But I just quickly noticed that he was projected at 32 or so on nbadraft.net.

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    I don't know how good of a defender these two guys are but Cameron Johnson of UNC and Dylan Windler could be pretty good lower pick ups for the team. Windler and Johnson can both shoot the out of the ball and have small forward size well height

    The PIT tournament for the seniors will show how well these guys can play while not being the man
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    I haven't followed many mocks, and I really only check them every once in awhile. I haven't really followed Clarke, individually, either. But I just quickly noticed that he was projected at 32 or so on nbadraft.net.
    NBADraft.net is the weirdest site for mock drafts. They're so different from the basic consensus and routinely have consensus first-rounders as undrafted and vice-versa.

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    NBADraft.net is the weirdest site for mock drafts. They're so different from the basic consensus and routinely have consensus first-rounders as undrafted and vice-versa.
    So true. They have some of the craziest comparisons and player grades also. I miss draftexpress when they had their website.

    Those guys stayed on top of all the tournaments worldwide. Those cats are super plugged in

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    Which site so far has been reliable when it comes to mock draft?

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    NBADraft.net is the weirdest site for mock drafts. They're so different from the basic consensus and routinely have consensus first-rounders as undrafted and vice-versa.

    I've wondered if the whole thing is an algorithm, with nobody even looking over it to give a logic check.

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    Second game I’ve seen Thybulle, second game I’m unimpressed.

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    Second game I’ve seen Thybulle, second game I’m unimpressed.
    Dude, he had FIVE steals and THREE blocks in the first game. THAT is why you draft him. If his offense is even Tony Allen, you get a 10 year starter.

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