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Uncle is the only reason this team is not a contender. Can Pop convince KD to come here instead of the NY markets, thats the only way to become legit contenders again other than tanking to get the cornerstone piece.
Coaching with no impetus to win anything takes a load off of him, he's on house money. Also, if he's retiring after the USA Basketball thing, he's going to feel relaxed now.
Also, he doesn't have to wipe Kawhi's ass.
Uncle is the only reason this team is not a contender. Can Pop convince KD to come here instead of the NY markets, thats the only way to become legit contenders again other than tanking to get the cornerstone piece.
KD is as much of a beta as DD.
Pop still enjoys coaching like Cheney still enjoys hunting.
Pop is fine, but they really should shake up the assistants, although not completely. Really a minor scandal that udoka or Messina can't get a hc job anywhere.
Can't? Or aren't interested? One of them is clearly first in line, and frankly, I'd rather be co-head assistant in SA under Pop than coach in some NBA hole for a hapless franchise, and be fired in a year and a half. I think if Ime is first in line, Ettore will have a HC job in about 5 mintues when Pop retires.
He still gets a great deal of effort from his players.
With the player collusion that goes on and wack jobs like KL, everyone will realize how good he really is.
Pop has shown the ability to create teams based on the parts. We get to see well played basketball in an age where it can get awfully ugly. If you want to watch Harden every night and be a higher seed that’s fine. If you want to watch Westbrook play really hard on both ends and then completely blow it due to mental lapses that’s fine.
I like the product given the hand we were dealt by KL.
well played
I think Pop’s been amazing offensively, changing schemes completely to fit personnel multiple times over the years. Spurs having the 7th best offense this year while shooting the least amount of 3s and 26th in FTAs is an incredible achievement.
In the last 7 years we have 4 WCF, 2 Finals, & a championship. A couple 1st rd exits and a 2nd round exit. All that despite our best player getting injured in the playoffs, sitting out a season, and a complete rebuild (only Patty left). I don’t know where you’re getting the 1st round sweeps thing from...that hasn’t happened since 91.Sorry, I'm just a little bummed about another 3-4 years of 6-8 seeds and first round sweeps, loser players taking up half the roster spots, etc....
I'll come around eventually, just need a moment to accept it tbh
I agree that we have been good offensively but our defense has paid the price for it. I think if we can have Gentry focus on offense next year that would help a lot. We have the youth now to be a fast break team with DJ and White and even Demar. We should also be taking more 3s as a team and I think Gentry would help with that as well.
Im not ting on Pops offense this year. He has adapted really well to the personal he has this year. But I think Gentry can come in here and keep some of the same principles while adding a few of his own and that will let Pop get our defense back on track.
Spurs have the 7th best offensive rating and 6th best offensive efficiency...even with LMA and DDR chucking away from mid-range. We are 2nd in overall FG%, 1st in 3PT%, and 1st in FT%.
The only issue with the offense is that it tends to come out slow and sputter at times. It's just a matter of limiting those moments and making sure they don't happen at the wrong time.
The problem with the Spurs is their defense (20th Def Rating), but that's not on Pop...he's doing what he can with limited personnel (i.e. Patty, Bryn, and Beli playing major minutes).
No consequences, even when they get it wrong. Why wouldn't they keep doing it?
Both nasty old bas s who love having access to a microphone.
I agree. Pop is the kind that truly values his assistants, and that extends up to RC and the ownership as well. That's a hard thing to leave when there are so many poorly-run franchises out there. If Ime and Messina were grass-is-greener types they would have already left.
Just cause other Front Offices know/find out that Messina is not what he is believed to be,don't assume he didn't try to get a Head Coach job and ultimately failed.
Why did he fail? Cause Messina sucks.
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...t-13459162.php
So, he sucks because Milwaukee chose coach Bud, who had NBA HC experience, and Toronto got stupid? You think they don't have buyers remorse for hiring the incompetent Nick Nurse? The Kawhi situation may also have come into play, but that does NOT mean that Ettore sucks.
Basically my response is that next year we will have a more modern team that can run more fast breaks and shoot more threes and Gentry should be able to help with that next year. It would solve some spacing issues as well.
and I agree our defensive personal is horrendous but next year if Pop can just run that side of the ball and have Jakob, White, and DJ then I see us improving by a country mile.
What is this? Do we have Messina fanboys here as well now?
He had final interviews with teams,they heard his plan,his long term vision and they didn't give him the job. he couldn't even land the tanking Suns job over Kokoskov.
You want me to tell you why Messina sucks? Okay,he sucks cause i've seen him get outcoached more times than i can count on both hands in crucial games in Euroleague.He sucks cause he had the most expensive teams in Europe,he just had to coach powerhouses to the le and in the Final4 he loses to the inferior team while he stands there looking like a moron.
20+ years in Euroleague,15 of those years coaching the absolute favourite to win it all and just 4 trophies to show for.And he had to thank Manu for one of those trophies.
Losing to teams with 1/4 of his CSKA budget.Losing 20+ point leads while not knowing what the to do to stop the bleeding.That's why he sucks.
Do you want to tell me why he doesn't suck maybe?
Our TS%, which is MAJORLY helped by both FTs and 3Gs, is just a hair under Houston's. So much for 3 pointers.
What on Earth makes you think that Gentry would even TAKE an assistants gig at this point in his career? He's got over 1000 head coaching wins.
Payroll doesn't really mean . You have two scrub-ass Eastern teams fighting to stay above water, above .500, and in the playoffs, Detroit and Miami, and they are #1 and #8 in payroll this year.
Look, you're obviously one of those guys who think good teams or good coaches should win it every year. They don't, but you'll never understand that, so it's hard to have a frame of reference for discussion with you.
this is all based on me thinking he gets fired at the end of the year. He was an assistant for Golden St with Kerr so why wouldn't he be one with Pop? And where the did you read he has over 1000 wins as a head coach?
and yeah I'm aware we shoot the ball well from 3. But the volume needs to be upped a bit and I don't see Pop doing that. Also we need to be more of a fast break team which is something Pop doesn't generally do. It's nice to make 10 threes a game but it would be better to make 12-14 when we have the personal to do so. I'm not ting on Pop or saying that our offense is bad. I'm just saying that it needs to be tuned up and it can improve a bit under Gentry while Pop fixes our defense. Andy Reid had Nagy calling plays for him in KC and Andy is an offensive guru. Same principle
'Till the wheels fall off.
Dude,did you just try to make an argument about Euroleague's payroll using NBA team's payroll as a measuring stick?
That has to be one of the most ignorant things i've read in here.
I am one of those guys who have watched European basketball for 25 years and as apparently you are not one of those guys i have absolutely nothing to discuss with you.
In conclusion.
The best coach in Euroleague is one of Pop's best friends outside the NBA.His name is Zelico Obradovic.He has won 9 Euroleague trophies in the same time period as Messina's 4.He mostly had teams with half of Messina's budget.And he outcoached him in multiple occasions.And those are facts friend.Check them out if you don't believe me.
My bad. Looked at the wrong column. He's coached over 1000 games as an NBA HC. In GS and for the LAC, he was listed as associate head coach, a distinction made between that and assistant. Pop never bumps guys down in the pecking order, and won't for AG, either, and he'd have to do that to both Ime and Ettore.this is all based on me thinking he gets fired at the end of the year. He was an assistant for Golden St with Kerr so why wouldn't he be one with Pop? And where the did you read he has over 1000 wins as a head coach?
and yeah I'm aware we shoot the ball well from 3. But the volume needs to be upped a bit and I don't see Pop doing that. Also we need to be more of a fast break team which is something Pop doesn't generally do. It's nice to make 10 threes a game but it would be better to make 12-14 when we have the personal to do so. I'm not ting on Pop or saying that our offense is bad. I'm just saying that it needs to be tuned up and it can improve a bit under Gentry while Pop fixes our defense. Andy Reid had Nagy calling plays for him in KC and Andy is an offensive guru. Same principle
The best coach in Euroleague is one of Pop's best friends outside the NBA.His name is Zelico Obradovic.He has won 9 Euroleague trophies in the same time period as Messina's 4.He mostly had teams with half of Messina's budget.And he outcoached him in multiple occasions.And those are facts friend.Check them out if you don't believe me.
I went to Popsbestfriendsoutsidethenba.com but he wasn't listed. Do you have another link?
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