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    what would you like to see investigated now, Pavlov?
    I'm cool with the SDNY and state investigations, thanks.

    I'd also like some finality on the emoluments issue.

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    It'd be nice to think the prescription against presidential self-dealing was something stronger than just a norm.

    we'll see, i guess.

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    It'd be nice to think the prescription against presidential self-dealing was something stronger than just a norm.

    we'll see, i guess.
    Carter had to sell his peanut farm for chrissakes.

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    Carter had to sell his peanut farm for chrissakes.
    Nearly bankrupted him.

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    Mitch McConnell disagrees with Trump on Russian election meddling

    In statement, Senate leader decries Russia's "significant threat." That's not what the president has been saying.

    After years of deflecting and downplaying the notion that Russia interfered in an American presidential election,

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch

    McConnell (R-KY) announced on Sunday that
    Russia poses a “significant threat to American interests.”

    McConnell acknowledged what all U.S. intelligence agencies have been saying for several years

    only after Attorney General William Barr reported that

    Russia had, according to special counsel Robert Mueller, interfered in the 2016 presidential race.

    McConnell’s statement represents a significant departure from the president,

    McConnell also tried to stonewall investigations into Russian attempts to meddle in the 2016 election,

    including Russian outreach efforts to help the Trump campaign.

    (2016) Obama wanted to issue a bipartisan statement calling out Russian interference,

    McConnell refused,

    “Russia’s ongoing efforts to interfere with our democracy are dangerous and disturbing, and

    I welcome the Special Counsel’s

    contributions to our efforts

    to understand better Russia’s activities in this regard,” McConnell said.

    https://thinkprogress.org/mcconnell-finally-decides-that-russian-interference-is-a-bad-thing-8465d1c6fcd4/

    dirty McC knew Russians were meddling and meddling for the Trash and the Repugs.

    And he knows Pootin meddled in the 2018 elections FOR the Repugs, and will do it again in 2020.

    McC very probably will do nothing about Russia's "significant threat" as long as the Pootin is pro-Repug

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    Lol didn’t you bet $2000 that the Trump family is going to prison?

    and yes I did. I am not changing the bet.
    Where did djohn2oo8 go? I'm here to collect a debt.

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    imo there was enough smoke to justify investigation. law enforcement investigates things all the time that dont end up leading to arrests and convictions. trump firing comey when he did "because of the russia thing" was an easy red flag and a poor strategic decision. people lying to investigators during interviews will naturally arouse su ion. stories changing about "the meeting" will arouse su ion. the investigation played its course and findings have been submitted to the DOJ. that's how it's supposed to work. i'd still rather have the report disclosed than go off the summary we have. not that i have any reason to believe the summary is misleading or a distortion of the truth.

    djohn/spurshomer gave me a ton of because i kept saying we should wait for the evidence/findings, when they wanted trump in the clink years ago. tsa/chris gave me because i didnt think it was a witchhunt that needs to be stopped because of prosecutorial abuses.

    foreign interference in our elections should be an ongoing concern (BUT WE DO IT TO doesn't mean that we, as citizens, shouldn't be concerned about it happening to us). that an adversarial (relatively) foreign en y actively supported the election of a particular candidate and orchestrated efforts to get him elected is troubling, regardless of whether that candidate was aware of or engaged in those efforts. it's obviously relieving that trump wasn't actively working with foreign adversaries, though its still not sunshine and rainbows as people in his campaign seemingly wanted to (trump jr, stone).

    mueller played things by the book. the "'partisan witch hunt" stuff should be put to rest. as far as i'm aware, mueller's team didnt indict anybody who was later acquitted or had their case dismissed. stone's is pending.

    i'm also not buying the crocodile tears of "WHY ARENT YOU ALL PLEASED ABOUT THE RESULTS" from the same crowd who was cheerleading for concord management to have their case dismissed... because mueller bad
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    and yes, schiff and lieu deserve a ton of egg on their faces, for making bold, conclusory statements along the way while the investigation was pending. i criticized all the stupid articles of impeachment stuff that we kept hearing about, including the one introduced by brad sherman, my own representative who i've voted for on multiple occasions

    that said, its not as though nunes et al have been vindicated, because they were crying foul play all along. there's no indication of that yet, and wont be until OIG releases its report on alleged fisa abuse. being cleared of criminal charges after a thorough investigation is very different than discrediting the investigation itself as a sham
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    imo there was enough smoke to justify investigation. law enforcement investigates things all the time that dont end up leading to arrests and convictions. trump firing comey when he did "because of the russia thing" was an easy red flag and a poor strategic decision. people lying to investigators during interviews will naturally arouse su ion. stories changing about "the meeting" will arouse su ion. the investigation played its course and findings have been submitted to the DOJ. that's how it's supposed to work. i'd still rather have the report disclosed than go off the summary we have. not that i have any reason to believe the summary is misleading or a distortion of the truth.

    djohn/spurshomer gave me a ton of because i kept saying we should wait for the evidence/findings, when they wanted trump in the clink years ago. tsa/chris gave me because i didnt think it was a witchhunt that needs to be stopped because of prosecutorial abuses.

    foreign interference in our elections should be an ongoing concern (BUT WE DO IT TO doesn't mean that we, as citizens, shouldn't be concerned about it happening to us). that an adversarial (relatively) foreign en y actively supported the election of a particular candidate and orchestrated efforts to get him elected is troubling, regardless of whether that candidate was aware of or engaged in those efforts. it's obviously relieving that trump wasn't actively working with foreign adversaries, though its still not sunshine and rainbows as people in his campaign seemingly wanted to (trump jr, stone).

    mueller played things by the book. the "'partisan witch hunt" stuff should be put to rest. as far as i'm aware, mueller's team didnt indict anybody who was later acquitted or had their case dismissed. stone's is pending.

    i'm also not buying the crocodile tears of "WHY ARENT YOU ALL PLEASED ABOUT THE RESULTS" from the same crowd who was cheerleading for concord management to have their case dismissed... because mueller bad
    What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    Lindsey Graham Says He Told John McCain to Give Steele Dossier to FBI: He ‘Acted Appropriately’

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/lind...appropriately/

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    Trump’s not letting this one go
    be upon those who pushed this bull narrative

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    What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?
    The Republican candidate's campaign manager, son and son in law attempted to collude with Russia.

    What more do you need?

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    Trump’s not letting this one go
    be upon those who pushed this bull narrative
    "looked at"

    Scary!

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    The Republican candidate's campaign manager, son and son in law attempted to collude with Russia.

    What more do you need?
    That didn’t start the investigation, and that was a set up by Fusion GPS. What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    That didn’t start the investigation, and that was a set up by Fusion GPS. What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?
    Everyone's lying about their Russian contacts, including Trump.

    you're still pushing your conspiracy theories.

    I'm still waiting for your apologies.

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    Everyone's lying about their Russian contacts, including Trump.
    The investigation had already started by that time. Again, what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    The investigation had already started by that time. Again, what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?
    We've had this conversation before.

    Several times.

    Do you just forget every time you demand information and get an answer, TSA?

    Explain.

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    We've had this conversation before.

    Several times.

    Do you just forget every time you demand information and get an answer, TSA?

    Explain.
    you jumped into a question not even directed at you

    now you refuse to answer it. Don’t hop in the middle of conversations you aren’t willing to discus.

    If you want to hop in feel free to answer. what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?
    Trash's own action: firing Comey when Comey refused to back down on Flynn,

    then announcing in the WH to Russians that Trash had taken care of the Russian investigation.

    Trash created this show.

    ... all in the context of the FBI having been investigating Trash's and his mafiya's multi-year contacts with Russiana.

    btw

    Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing for 2 years, if there was no fire underneath all the very thick, visible smoke?

    Why did Trash hire so many capos with histories of connections to Russians?

    Why did Trash dictate a LIE for DJTjr about adoptions for the get-dirt-on-Hillary-from-Russians meeting?

    etc, etc, etc.

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    and yes, schiff and lieu deserve a ton of egg on their faces, for making bold, conclusory statements along the way while the investigation was pending. i criticized all the stupid articles of impeachment stuff that we kept hearing about, including the one introduced by brad sherman, my own representative who i've voted for on multiple occasions

    that said, its not as though nunes et al have been vindicated, because they were crying foul play all along. there's no indication of that yet, and wont be until OIG releases its report on alleged fisa abuse. being cleared of criminal charges after a thorough investigation is very different than discrediting the investigation itself as a sham
    some good points...
    but-

    no one has seen muellers report or heard anything directly from mueller


    I will wait until 100% of the investigation is revealed.

    this stinks of cover up

    wanna test it?

    wait to see what trump does- what action he takes against russia/putin-
    for attacking our elections

    it is like OJ looking for the “killers”

    this is what we know;
    1) sessions refused to do what barr/rosenstein did
    2) trump found the guy corrupt enough to cover up the mueller report
    3) mueller suddenly ends the investigation? Who made this decision? Why? There Are several open cases- but mueller shuts down? Gmafb
    4) now we have 4 pages of BARRS report - barrs VERSION

    cover up

    either release 100% of muellers report

    or

    have mueller testify

    not barr- he will ing lie

    i would accept 100% the findings of mueller once we see 100% of it

    republicans are all in on taking over by any means - rules dont apply to them

    they have a huge head start and weak dems will wake up to a dictatorship
    we are halfway there

    trump will never hold putin accountable

    the investigation will be buried until after trump steals a second term

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    you jumped into a question not even directed at you

    now you refuse to answer it. Don’t hop in the middle of conversations you aren’t willing to discus.

    If you want to hop in feel free to answer. what smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?
    Why should anyone answer you for the 4th or 5th time, TSA?

    Explain.

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    Trash's own action: firing Comey when Comey refused to back down on Flynn,

    then announcing in the WH to Russians that Trash had taken care of the Russian investigation.

    Trash created this show.

    ... all in the context of the FBI having been investigating Trash's and his mafiya's multi-year contacts with Russiana.

    btw

    Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing for 2 years, if there was no fire underneath all the very thick, visible smoke?

    Why did Trash hire so many capos with histories of connections to Russians?

    Why did Trash dictate a LIE for DJTjr about adoptions for the get-dirt-on-Hillary-from-Russians meeting?

    etc, etc, etc.
    The Russian collusion investigation was already under way when Trump fired Comey. Try again.

    What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    Why should anyone answer you for the 4th or 5th time, TSA?

    Explain.
    Don’t quote questions not directed at you if you are too chick to answer.

    What smoke justified the Russian collusion investigation?

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    Don’t quote questions not directed at you if you are too chick to answer.
    That's just it.

    We've answered this very question from you multiple times.

    Don't asked questions we've already directly answered for you multiple times.

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