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    So, for not just defense, RPM among point guards:

    Offense RPM:
    38. Dennis Schroder
    39. Derrick White
    40. Delon Wright

    Combined RPM:
    15. Monte Morris
    16. Derrick White
    17. Malcolm Brogdon

    WINS [AKA Combined RPM * Playing Time]
    21. Jamal Murray
    22. Derrick White
    23. Cory Joseph

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    That's nice, but wake me up when averages 20 points and 10 assists per game.
    You mean that bar that's only been met 27 times for a full season in the history of the NBA? Only 12 guys in the HISTORY of the NBA put up 20p/10a seasons, multiples accounting for the 27 instances.

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    On the ball. DJ is still a holy terror in the passing lanes, and on the glass, far better in those areas. Isn't it nice to have both of them on our team?
    He won’t respond to this. It’s a shame that he needs to put Murray down to prop White up. I’m very excited that we have both guys. Opposing backcourts will dread the nights they have to go against these two. Why do we have to pit teammates against each other? Makes no sense at all..

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    Defensively they should be a terror together. All the questions are offensive, especial with DeMarr there too.

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    Defensively they should be a terror together. All the questions are offensive, especial with DeMarr there too.
    Smothering defense creates offense.

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    It's pretty awesome that advanced metrics agree with the eye test on the amazing effect White has on the Spurs defense.

    If only we had someone at SG instead of Forbes to shoot the 3 better than Bryn while contributing with elite defense.

    But those players are so hard to come by.

    (Now don't go check the DRPM of the Shooting Guards cause you'll get depressed)

    patty mills?

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    Defensively they should be a terror together. All the questions are offensive, especial with DeMarr there too.
    True.



    And nice signature updates.

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    Contract year Danny Green by far the best DRPM SG in the league and 44% from 3 (Iggy first,by he's playing half minutes off bench at SF)

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    White, Murray and Poeltl will make it very hard to score on Spurs next year.

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    You mean that bar that's only been met 27 times for a full season in the history of the NBA? Only 12 guys in the HISTORY of the NBA put up 20p/10a seasons, multiples accounting for the 27 instances.
    Yup. I DEMAND EXCELLENCE!!!

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    True.



    And nice signature updates.
    Cheers Ed!

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    Rudy Gay is 4th among SFs

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    Its past time all broadcasts, sites and video games update their listings. Not only should they be changed to bigs, big wings, wings, guards, but there's all kinds of players listed incorrectly (Brogdon shouldn't be PG any more than Gay should be SF) under the outdated format.

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    On the ball. DJ is still a holy terror in the passing lanes, and on the glass, far better in those areas. Isn't it nice to have both of them on our team?
    On the ball >>> passing lanes. White is also a better, smarter team defender. Besides, instagram baller's impact in the passing lanes is overstated...I consider someone like prime, DPOY nephew a "terror" in the passing lanes not him.

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    On the ball >>> passing lanes. White is also a better, smarter team defender. Besides, instagram baller's impact in the passing lanes is overstated...I consider someone like prime, DPOY nephew a "terror" in the passing lanes not him.
    Just wait until DJ no longer is forced to play the entire game on the other team’s best scorer. You’re going to see a whole new level of ball hawking.

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    On the ball >>> passing lanes. White is also a better, smarter team defender. Besides, instagram baller's impact in the passing lanes is overstated...I consider someone like prime, DPOY nephew a "terror" in the passing lanes not him.
    Then it will be good to have White on the other team ball handler and have Murray playing the passing lane.

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    You mean that bar that's only been met 27 times for a full season in the history of the NBA? Only 12 guys in the HISTORY of the NBA put up 20p/10a seasons, multiples accounting for the 27 instances.
    Ok, how about 15 ppg and 5-6 assists per game?

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    Ok, how about 15 ppg and 5-6 assists per game?
    That’s doable, even for a Spur.

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    On the ball >>> passing lanes. White is also a better, smarter team defender. Besides, instagram baller's impact in the passing lanes is overstated...I consider someone like prime, DPOY nephew a "terror" in the passing lanes not him.
    Murray made everyone better on defense last year; his impact was absurd. White's leading the league this year with a 1.64 DRPM, whereas Murray had a 3.60 in the same stat last year. Obviously, a huge part of that is the emphasis on allowing player movement this year, but that's still a major difference. On top of that, in his second year, Murray had 3.4 DWS, which compares quite favorably to Kawhi's 3.3 DWS in his second year.

    White is a better on-ball defender, but he isn't quite the absurd team defender that Murray is.

    That being said, we're blessed as fans of a team that will have both players on it, so we can just reap the insane amount of fun watching those two play together.

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    #29 pick is #1 in defense, ahead of Chris Paul, Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, and every other PG-- almost all of whom are making more than 10x what White is making, play more minutes, and have much higher usage rates-- and some people still say, yeah, but he isn't averaging 20 ppg! Unbelievable.

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    That’s doable, even for a Spur.
    It is but he still can't do that, tbh. That's why White shouldn't start at Murray's expense next season outright. They both need to prove which one of them is the better starting PG assuming we get a true wing in the offseason and DeRozan goes back to being the SG.

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    It is but he still can't do that, tbh. That's why White shouldn't start at Murray's expense next season outright. They both need to prove which one of them is the better starting PG assuming we get a true wing in the offseason and DeRozan goes back to being the SG.
    He won’t start at DJ’s expense. It’ll be at Forbes expense. Bryn was never supposed to start, and next year, he goes back where he belongs: the bench.

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    He won’t start at DJ’s expense. It’ll be at Forbes expense. Bryn was never supposed to start, and next year, he goes back where he belongs: the bench.
    I'd be all for that but the fact remains we have and will continue to have DeRozan. So, is DeRozan at the 3 sustainable? Wouldn't we be better off with DeRozan at his more natural position while getting a true wing? Also, if DJ and White continue to be inconsistent scorers, that won't be enough to put us over the hump. Clearly, Forbes has no business starting for any playoff NBA team but our backcourt needs to score points consistently.

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    #29 pick is #1 in defense, ahead of Chris Paul, Marcus Smart, Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, and every other PG-- almost all of whom are making more than 10x what White is making, play more minutes, and have much higher usage rates-- and some people still say, yeah, but he isn't averaging 20 ppg! Unbelievable.
    Correct it aint about the numbers. It's clear as day what his abilities are on both ends . We overlook the fact that this his real first full season in the nba because pop held him back last season. Considering he starts now, that's amazing progress from where hes come from.

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    He won’t even make 2nd team unfortunately
    Why? Voters have to pick 6 guards 6 forwards and 3 centers. It's not that hard to think they can vote Derrick

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