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    You're right, but exactly what where you expecting when two hall of famers retired and Leonard quit on his own team? Did you expect the Spurs to just keep humming along?
    I honestly expected more personal investment from the players in the team. I hope that makes sense. I know we lost talent but it seems as though the "team" plays like a collection of talented individuals. Pop has given many of the players a "pass" this year because they are relatively new to the system and still learning to play with each other but I don't think that stuff flies anymore. 72 games in to the season and all that stuff should be settled. Plus, they don't seem to have compe ive fire. They kind of go out there with "its just a job" body language. I'll do what I do & if we win great, if we don't - whatever. The check should clear.

    Part of what made Tim & Manu great was their desire to WIN. They played to win every time they stepped on the court. That had nothing to do with their talent.

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    So far this season is a success in my eyes.

    1. Integrated DDR in the Spurs system and culture
    2. Developed young players (White, Bertrans, Poeltl) into rotation players
    3. LMA stepped up as a team leader and made ASG
    4. Continued playoff streak getting playoff exp for young players
    5. Got rid of Pau Gasol

    Anyone thinking this team had any chance of a championship is very delusional. Best case in my eyes was second round seven game series.

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    You're so excitable, Poseidon.

    It's the testosterone. You wouldn't understand.

    BTW - Ra was a well known boy-lover. We wouldn't let him near Olympus. You should choose your alts more carefully.

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    I honestly expected more personal investment from the players in the team. I hope that makes sense. I know we lost talent but it seems as though the "team" plays like a collection of talented individuals. Pop has given many of the players a "pass" this year because they are relatively new to the system and still learning to play with each other but I don't think that stuff flies anymore. 72 games in to the season and all that stuff should be settled. Plus, they don't seem to have compe ive fire. They kind of go out there with "its just a job" body language. I'll do what I do & if we win great, if we don't - whatever. The check should clear.

    Part of what made Tim & Manu great was their desire to WIN. They played to win every time they stepped on the court. That had nothing to do with their talent.
    I get what you're saying. But Tim and Manu are hall of fame players. It never was going to be easy to replace them. I don't think we will ever see players so selfless as Tim and Manu. Considering no influx of lottery talent, S.A. not being a desirable FA destination, and the Leonard fiasco, I'm actually impressed with this current group. Their flawed, but I'm intrigued to see if they can get out of the 1st round of the playoffs this year.

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    I get what you're saying. But Tim and Manu are hall of fame players. It never was going to be easy to replace them. I don't think we will ever see players so selfless as Tim and Manu. Considering no influx of lottery talent, S.A. not being a desirable FA destination, and the Leonard fiasco, I'm actually impressed with this current group. Their flawed, but I'm intrigued to see if they can get out of the 1st round of the playoffs this year.
    The winningest trio in history. I don't think anyone was comparing them to this group as players. The point is effort and commitment. Last night the Hornets wanted that W more than (most of) the Spurs. They worked their asses off on defensive rotations. They scrapped for rebounds and loose balls. You want to see what a less-talented team can do with effort, just have a look at the Clippers.

    It's been pretty hilarious to me when people here have talked about "trap games" at the end of a season, when the team is locked into a tight playoff battle. If that isn't enough motivation to focus on every single game, they need to just go fishing.

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    "Dejounte would have helped"

    Pop woulda had that on the bench while Bryn and Patty were out there getting roasted by Kemba.

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    "Dejounte would have helped"

    Pop woulda had that on the bench while Bryn and Patty were out there getting roasted by Kemba.

    LMAO!!! I wish I could argue with you, but it's probably true.

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    It's the testosterone. You wouldn't understand.

    BTW - Ra was a well known boy-lover. We wouldn't let him near Olympus. You should choose your alts more carefully.
    uhhh.... ever heard of Ganymede?

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    "Dejounte would have helped"

    Pop woulda had that on the bench while Bryn and Patty were out there getting roasted by Kemba.
    unfortunately there is a good chance that you are absolutely correct, Spurs has many players who should not be on a roster of the nba who propose to be compe ive (Quincy, Dante, Mills, Forbes), if you count the rookies that clearly are not yet ready and Murray (unfortunately injured), we have few players that are really useful, the current most compe ive teams have 9 or 10 real basketball players on their roster, it's really hard to compete against the depth of some teams (even less talented teams , has more real depth than the Spurs this season), and teams that are not as deep but still elite (warriors and 76ers for example), have the two best starting lineups in the league, so it does not matter so much because of the insane amount of talent

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    The winningest trio in history. I don't think anyone was comparing them to this group as players.
    Who was comparing this current team with Tim, Tony, and Manu? I wasn't. In my previous post I was trying to impress that the Spur's bar is set high and that if you try to judge this current group of Spurs, you're going to be disappointed.[/QUOTE]
    The point is effort and commitment. Last night the Hornets wanted that W more than (most of) the Spurs. They worked their asses off on defensive rotations. They scrapped for rebounds and loose balls. You want to see what a less-talented team can do with effort, just have a look at the Clippers.

    It's been pretty hilarious to me when people here have talked about "trap games" at the end of a season, when the team is locked into a tight playoff battle. If that isn't enough motivation to focus on every single game, they need to just go fishing.
    Yeah, pretty much, so what do you propose to do quit watching them? Like I've stated before, this a flawed team, but I'm still looking forward to the playoffs and seeing how they do? I'm not naïve, if they play GS, they're going to get their pushed in, but if they play someone like Denver, who knows.

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    So far this season is a success in my eyes.

    1. Integrated DDR in the Spurs system and culture
    He's having the worst season of his career based on on/off numbers. Spurs were 11-14 when they ran the offense through Derozan to start the season. They only improved after inserting White into the starting lineup and giving LMA more touches. Derozan ball will never be winning ball. Even Pop realized that early on. His past all-star and all-nba selections were a sham, a result of playing in a terrible conference. In the West, he's just another inefficient guard.

    3. LMA stepped up as a team leader and made ASG
    What kind of leader makes multiple statements about returning to his old club? When you keep talking about going back to Portland to play with Lillard again, the younger players are just gonna look at you as a temporary teammate. Just another reason why the chemistry feels so off with this year's team.

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    What kind of leader makes multiple statements about returning to his old club? When you keep talking about going back to Portland to play with Lillard again, the younger players are just gonna look at you as a temporary teammate. Just another reason why the chemistry feels so off with this year's team.
    This bugged me the most. Even if he was asked straight up about it, he should just say we'll see or i'm not focused on that right now, focused on the Spurs and winning games or something to that resort. But instead talks about rejoining his former team eventually.
    Well, thanks LMA. I can really feel that you care about trying to bring another championship to San Antonio.

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    Just asking did he really say he wanted to go back to Portland recently?

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    Just asking did he really say he wanted to go back to Portland recently?
    Here is the quote that triggered these fanboys’ hurt feelings.

    "… I keep telling him (Lillard) I’m going to come back and finish there. That’s something him and I have talked about — playing together again.”

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    I don't see the people in Charlotte worried about Tony Parker talking about retiring a Spur he and their coach got on the Spur's plane to San Antonio for the Manu thing. Nothing to see here, every player has an attachment to the team that drafted them. He is not demanding a trade to Portland he just says he wouldn't be opposed to ending it where he started it. Much ado about nothing unless you are trying to inflame a troll war with LMA supporters.

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    dejounte at least has that dog in him and has some heart for next season, losing green and ginobli really set us back though

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    This damn team has about as much urgency as the pink elephant trying to get to the top of Pikes Peak while starting the journey from the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

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    Rudy Gay - very,very low IQ his entire career. Some people like him because the Spurs have nothing else at the moment.

    LMA - mediocre IQ and have no touch around the rim. Would rather stay on the smaller guy when there is a switch and when he has a chance to switch back to the big guy on the other team he never tries to. Instead he stays on the smaller PG and gets beat everytime. Even when he does get aggressive and drive to the rim he usually gets away with an offensive foul on his way to the basket.

    Patty Mills - mediocre IQ and always jump to the side of the pg that he is guarding so that the pg can drive right to the basket. That use to work with TD covering the basket but LMA is usually no where to be found on those plays.

    Forbes - mediocre IQ. Gets to down on himself to much and it effects his game. When he somewhat penetrated, he never looks for a cutter or an open teammate because he has tunnel vision.

    D. White - pretty good IQ. Will be better next year after pretty much an entire season playing under his belt.

    DDR - mediocre IQ but gets somewhat of a pass because it's his 1st year in the system and I believe he will be better next year with a full season under his belt. When he pump fakes and get the defender in the air, I don't know why he doesn't create contact like harden and get himself to the free throw line. Mind boggling.

    Bertans - mediocre IQ but needs more playing time which I believes he get next year and will be better because of it.

    Marco - above average IQ but will never be able to make his presence felt on the defensive end. Next year he needs to play less minutes but keep shooting.

    Next year the Spurs will be a better team with this lineup:
    DJM, White, DDR, Bertans and LMA
    Mills, Walker, Marco, Gay and Jakob

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    What kind of leader makes multiple statements about returning to his old club? When you keep talking about going back to Portland to play with Lillard again, the younger players are just gonna look at you as a temporary teammate. Just another reason why the chemistry feels so off with this year's team.
    It was 1 statement. Just multiple articles written about that 1 statement. There's a difference

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    I honestly expected more personal investment from the players in the team. I hope that makes sense. I know we lost talent but it seems as though the "team" plays like a collection of talented individuals. Pop has given many of the players a "pass" this year because they are relatively new to the system and still learning to play with each other but I don't think that stuff flies anymore. 72 games in to the season and all that stuff should be settled. Plus, they don't seem to have compe ive fire. They kind of go out there with "its just a job" body language. I'll do what I do & if we win great, if we don't - whatever. The check should clear.

    Part of what made Tim & Manu great was their desire to WIN. They played to win every time they stepped on the court. That had nothing to do with their talent.
    I wouldn't blame the players for this when Pop has been preaching for years that basketball is their job. Maybe that ain't the right approach?

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    It was 1 statement. Just multiple articles written about that 1 statement. There's a difference
    Furthermore,Lillard and LMA had a bad falling out when Aldridge left Portland.Stopped talking,took subtle hits at each other etc

    By the looks of it they've patched things up completely and LMA wanted to make that abundantly clear in the media.

    He should've gone with a more politically correct and well thought out way to express that,but whatever tbh

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    It's the testosterone. You wouldn't understand.

    BTW - Ra was a well known boy-lover. We wouldn't let him near Olympus. You should choose your alts more carefully.
    uhhh.... ever heard of Ganymede?
    I don't understand why you don't want to talk about Ganymede.

    Are you shy?

    Do words like "pederasty" and "catamite" make you nervous?

    C'mon-- stun us with your great knowledge up there on Mt Olympus!

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    I wouldn't blame the players for this when Pop has been preaching for years that basketball is their job. Maybe that ain't the right approach?
    exactly, I really doubt that Duncan, Manu, and Parker had that thought, and I doubt even more that Pop would have thought so if he had not won 5 les in a 20-year period

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    Holy they can't even get up for the Manu Night? ..

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    Just a sucky team that on top of it obvious roster issues, it has one of the tiest mental make-up in the association..

    A lack of urgency at this stage that we haven't seen in more than 2 decades of spurs basketball..

    (getting season swept by the lottery-bound Hornets and Kings

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