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    Why not? I can understand not wanting to draft Michael Porter or something. But if an injury drops a solid lotto-class player down into the 20s, it makes sense to make the move. If Walker remains healthy, then you got a top-10 talent without missing the playoffs. If he doesn't, what did you miss out on? Dude was easily the BPA by that point in the draft. Looking at the selections again, there's no one drafted later that I regret the team not having so far.
    Was Walker injured when we drafted him? I was looking around and he hurt his knee in October. Did he have a different injury during the draft? Thx

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    Hachimura would be awesome.

    I agree. There are going to be a few surprises up above. They could push someone like Hachimura just low enough.

    Heh. Maybe not Hachimura, but someone like him.

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    Was Walker injured when we drafted him? I was looking around and he hurt his knee in October. Did he have a different injury during the draft? Thx
    He wasn't still injured, but he came in after having suffered a meniscus tear the year before. That's the real reason why his injury in October was such a big deal. It was a reinjury. I can understand not drafting Porter at 20 or whatever because his ACL, but if Hachimura got hurt and fell to the Spurs' pick, I have no idea why anyone would want the team to pass on him.

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    He wasn't still injured, but he came in after having suffered a meniscus tear the year before. That's the real reason why his injury in October was such a big deal. It was a reinjury. I can understand not drafting Porter at 20 or whatever because his ACL, but if Hachimura got hurt and fell to the Spurs' pick, I have no idea why anyone would want the team to pass on him.
    i agree. what do you think about bol bol ? from a basketball and injury standpoint .

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    Not not no but no broken foot on big man are a kiss of death plus we’re all ready issues in his basketball work ethic.

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    We need to do everything we can to get Rui Hachimura. He would be the perfect Spur. Plus, Australia, Japan, Latvian, Italy, Polish

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    We need to do everything we can to get Rui Hachimura. He would be the perfect Spur. Plus, Australia, Japan, Latvian, Italy, Polish
    will be a top 8 pick, I do not think it's possible to get it

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    We need to do everything we can to get Rui Hachimura. He would be the perfect Spur. Plus, Australia, Japan, Latvian, Italy, Polish
    Cap his knee

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    After seeing Okeke in the Tar Heel game, I would still consider drafting him if he comes out. He easily looked liked the best player on the court.

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    I agree. There are going to be a few surprises up above. They could push someone like Hachimura just low enough.

    Heh. Maybe not Hachimura, but someone like him.
    So, my dream is Hachimura at 18 and Okeke at 29. Hachimura plays now and Okeke rehabs for a year and joins us the following season. Like getting two lottery picks! Add Tariq Owens at 50.

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    If we can't package both of the picks to move up and draft Culver...

    Then I'd want Bol Bol with our pick and either Kevin Porter Jr or Okeke with the Raptors pick.

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    If I recall correctly, Embiid had a foot fracture when Phil drafted him. For big men, that is a horrendous thing to happen to them. Foot fractures are bad omens of things to come. They frequently reoccur. Has science caught up with this issue that they can either forecast if it is a type that can reoccur or to prevent it from reoccurring? A foot fracture in Bol Bol has me worried if he should drop that far.

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    If they don’t bring Nikola I am hoping they use him in a trade up to move up in the draft and grab a SF/PF that could be a starter and then take Fernando or Goga in Raptors pick.
    It's hard to imagine Milutinov having any trade value, he might just be a throw-in on a deal rather than a selling point.

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    It's hard to imagine Milutinov having any trade value, he might just be a throw-in on a deal rather than a selling point.
    Agreed. He probably wants a Bogdanovic type deal and while he's a good player I don't think it's the best way to spend the MLE. Back-up big is just about the cheapest position to fill in today's NBA.

    On the other hand, literally all of the Spurs bigs will be FAs within a couple of years so they may need some insurance options and if they actually pay and sign him it'd mean they're high on him.

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    Milutinov can’t have any trade value and also want a bogdanovic type deal. That’s not logicial. If he wants that type of deal it’s That some team can Pay him...

    imo he will not have a bogdanovic type deal, not a rookie contrat but something between. I also think he has some value, playing well in euroleague in front of some NBA gms gives him some value for sure.

    one thing i agree about his value is that actually if We trade him, we will have less than first pick Wich is his value imo.

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    Milutinov can’t have any trade value and also want a bogdanovic type deal. That’s not logicial. If he wants that type of deal it’s That some team can Pay him...

    imo he will not have a bogdanovic type deal, not a rookie contrat but something between. I also think he has some value, playing well in euroleague in front of some NBA gms gives him some value for sure.

    one thing i agree about his value is that actually if We trade him, we will have less than first pick Wich is his value imo.
    I do think Milutinov could want a big rookie deal and simultaneously not have any trade value. If he wasn't taken with a 1st by the Spurs, would they be attached
    to him?

    He is a starter on a slightly below average team that is probably paying him well (he's averaging 11.5 ppg and 8 RPG in 26 mpg btw), in order for him to make the jump he wants more money than is reasonably worth for him when there a bunch of vet bigs who could provide decent minutes for cheap next season.

    If he were traded to another team, they may pay him but it's about what the Spurs get in return. The initial post I responded to was about whether he could be a piece to use in order to move up to get a higher pick, I'm not sure that he would be much more than a throw into a deal.

    Spurs botched it from the start tbh. I think he wanted half the MLE for 3 seasons and the Spurs balked because its silly to pay a center something like 3 years/ 15 million. They have 3 roster open in the offseason, they could stash a pick, sign the other and have 2 open spots to be able to use the MLE to fill. One could still end up going to Milutinov (assuming that they can find common ground on a deal) and the other to another player in the $4-5 million range.


    Its still better, imo, to have the full $9 million to go to one player and probably just sign the two picks.

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    If anyone has shown they could drop this tourney its DeAndre Hunter, not Hachimura. He’s had two underwhelming showing this weekend. If he starts slipping into the 9-12 range I’d be all over a trade up for him.

    If there is still Spurs DNA left in ATL, i can actually see them getting both Hachimura and Hunter with their two lotto picks.

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    Agreed. He probably wants a Bogdanovic type deal and while he's a good player I don't think it's the best way to spend the MLE. Back-up big is just about the cheapest position to fill in today's NBA.

    On the other hand, literally all of the Spurs bigs will be FAs within a couple of years so they may need some insurance options and if they actually pay and sign him it'd mean they're high on him.
    He is averaging 11.5 ppg and 8 rpg (3.5 off. rpg) while shooting 66% FG in 26 mpg, so it's not like he isn't productive.

    The Spurs may not even use the MLE on another player considering they'll already pretty much have a full roster so it's not impossible that they do bring him over and have him on the roster for after next season for when Aldridge and Bertans are UFA and Poetlt is RFA. Hopefully, it's not a complete overpay- something like 3 years $13 million.

    Aldridge may end up leaving after next season so keeping Poetlt and Bertans, and already having Milutinov would be decent insurance in regards to filling out the big man rotation.
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    Spurs may need to get Okeke at 19; won’t last to 29 I’m thinking. Thybulle at 29 would work for me too. Ben Moore may be able to fill that sf spot better than a rookie anyway.

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    No one other then Boston is going to draft him before 26 at best with a torn ACL you a taking a gamble and won’t see him for a year. Teams are in win now and making a splash he may have name recognition on this site but is not a house hold name that is going to sale tickets.

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    No one other then Boston is going to draft him before 26 at best with a torn ACL you a taking a gamble and won’t see him for a year. Teams are in win now and making a splash he may have name recognition on this site but is not a house hold name that is going to sale tickets.
    Teams will often go for a guy they think can be very good. It's been a while, but Kenyon Martin still went number one, right?

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    No one other then Boston is going to draft him before 26 at best with a torn ACL you a taking a gamble and won’t see him for a year. Teams are in win now and making a splash he may have name recognition on this site but is not a house hold name that is going to sale tickets.
    +1

    plus there will be a lot of good and healty players at our range.

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    Teams will often go for a guy they think can be very good. It's been a while, but Kenyon Martin still went number one, right?
    If you look at injured players who were drafted in the first round : you will have very good prospects ala embiid, noel or porter With Denver. But all those teams had the situation To Wait.

    I’m not sure that will be the case for okeke.

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    If you look at injured players who were drafted in the first round : you will have very good prospects ala embiid, noel or porter With Denver. But all those teams had the situation To Wait.

    I’m not sure that will be the case for okeke.
    I feel like someone in the late lottery will grab him, or someone smart like Brooklyn.

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    You could be Right but late lottery seems To be his rank if he is healty. All will depends on teams situations but it’s a little bit risky cause you never know how a player comes back from an ACL.

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