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    i asked.

    im just seeing all these posters talk about what they think the mueller report said when we know its going to be released in the near future. its just a waste
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    Trump's had you looking at squirrels for years, here's another example.

    "In our earlier talk, Dowd stressed that the Trump White House fully cooperated with Mueller's investigation, and that on more than one occasion Trump instructed Dowd to inform Mueller that the president respected the prosecutor's work. But how could one say Trump fully cooperated when the president was, at the same time, loudly denouncing the probe as a "witch hunt" and a "hoax," and bashing Mueller's prosecutors as "17 angry Democrats"?

    The answer lay in Trump's longtime habit of operating on two levels. On the surface, Trump sets off controversies, often using Twitter to say something outrageous that sets the media agenda and leaves some commentators with their hair on fire. At the same time, below the surface, Trump is actually taking steps to get a particular job done.

    That was true with the Russia probe. For public consumption, Trump was denouncing Mueller and trashing his team. Behind the scenes, Trump was cooperating and making sure his staff did the same. The Trump White House offered everyone (except, of course, the president himself) to be interviewed, and reams and reams of do ents that other White Houses might have withheld on the grounds of executive or other privilege. So Trump simultaneously attacked and cooperated.

    Asked about the attacks, Dowd said Mueller understood that Trump had to mount a political defense on the Russia issue. "Bob understood this, it was political," Dowd said. " [Trump] had to handle the political side, and that was his way of doing it with his tweets and his comments ... Bob was a big boy about the political side of it. He understood the president had to address the politics of it. He couldn't just say nothing. People were pounding him about this thing every day, both privately and publicly, and he had to take [Mueller] on."

    Mueller's only real concern about the president's rhetoric, Dowd said, was the worry that it might send a message to Trump's side not to cooperate.

    "Early on, when the president started teeing off on Mueller, Mueller indicated to me that he was worried that some people might not cooperate," Dowd said. "I said, well we've encouraged everyone to cooperate, and if you want me to say something publicly about that, and the president, we're happy to do it. And we did. We encouraged everyone who was asked to cooperate ... Bob was satisfied with that. It never came up again."

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-and-the-press

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    what an idiot to believe this fantasy

    lolololol

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    If you Russiagate pushers read this and understand this before the report comes out the rest of us will not have to deal with so much crying.


    Jerry Nadler’s Mueller report subpoena isn’t legit without impeachment inquiry


    The House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday exceeded its bounds in issuing a subpoena for the full report from special counsel Robert Mueller on Russian skullduggery concerning the 2016 elections.

    Attorney General William Barr should release as much of the Mueller report as possible, as soon as possible, because the public has a right to see what all the fuss was about. Yet if he determines that some information within it is either classified or subject to grand jury secrecy rules, he is duty-bound to redact it. Unless Congress passes, and President Trump signs, a new law waiving grand jury secrecy rules, then existing laws protecting that secrecy should take legal precedence over Congress’ subpoena authority.

    This is decidedly not a similar situation to the 1998 investigation of, and eventual impeachment of, then-President Bill Clinton. That investigation was led not by a special counsel, which is what Robert Mueller was, but by an independent counsel, Kenneth Starr. The difference is significant.

    Under the independent counsel statute, which has since lapsed (and always was of dubious cons utionality anyway), such counsels were creatures of, and reported to, Congress. They existed independent of, and separate from, the ordinary lines of authority within the Justice Department and the executive branch. When House Speaker Newt Gingrich and company made the foolish decision to post the full Starr report immediately on the Internet, they had full power to do so because Starr’s report was specifically theirs to use as they saw fit.

    Special counsels are different. Special counsels, while enjoying a modi of separation from ordinary lines of authority in the Justice Department, are nonetheless still ultimately part of the department and the executive branch as a whole. They report to the attorney general (or his designee), and they must follow all ordinary rules of civil and criminal procedure.

    Under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e), neither the attorney for the government nor anyone else may “disclose a matter occurring before the grand jury.” The exceptions involve disclosure to another federal grand jury or to an attorney for the government pursuing another criminal matter in certain cir stances, or to certain national security officials if the information involves foreign intelligence, terrorism, or threat of attack. If pe ioned by the government or a defendant in another judicial proceeding, the court can also permit release in the other proceeding. Absent such very limited cir stances, Barr would run afoul of this almost blanket prohibition, and could be sanctioned by contempt of court if he disclosed to Congress any grand jury information in the Mueller report under Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e)(7).

    Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., and the Democrats surely know this, but seem not to care about the rule of law, the sanc y of the grand jury process, or the lack of any impeachment authorization in the House that could be considered a “judicial proceeding” to support their subpoena.

    The Democrats are not seeking the grand jury information “to avoid a possible injustice in another judicial proceeding,” Douglas Oil Co. v. Petrol Stops Nw., 441 U.S. 211, 222 (1979). Nor are they seeking grand jury information to support articles of impeachment, as the House has not authorized such inquiry, unlike 1974 when grand jury information was produced to the Judiciary Committee related to its impeachment inquiry of President Richard M. Nixon. (Haldeman v. Sirica, 501 F.2d 714 — D.C. Cir. 1974). Likewise, the impeachment proceedings of federal district Judge Alcee Hastings provided the basis for the 11th Circuit to consider such congressional efforts a “judicial proceeding” and thus the House Judiciary Committee could subpoena grand jury do ents related to Hastings’ indictment. (In re Request for Access to Grand Jury Materials Grand Jury 81-1, Miami, 833 F.2d 1438 — 11th Cir. 1987).

    If Nadler wants to subpoena any grand jury information contained in the Mueller report, he first needs a majority of the House to authorize the Judiciary Committee to investigate impeachment of President Trump.

    Somehow, it doesn’t seem as if Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to open that can of worms, at least not yet.


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    ^ tldr

    translation: “we scurred to release the truth”

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    Damn, TSA moving the goalposts like a good little soldier.

    Releasing report bad now.

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    Damn, TSA moving the goalposts like a good little soldier.

    Releasing report bad now.

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    "the sanc y of the grand jury process"

    Why can I see Bill Clinton's grand jury testimony on YouTube right now?

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    welcome to online discussion boards
    fair nuff

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    Damn, TSA moving the goalposts like a good little soldier.

    Releasing report bad now.
    Nothing in that article even hints at not wanting the report to be released you dip . Did you skip over the second sentence? "Attorney General William Barr should release as much of the Mueller report as possible, as soon as possible, because the public has a right to see what all the fuss was about."

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    Nothing in that article even hints at not wanting the report to be released you dip . Did you skip over the second sentence? "Attorney General William Barr should release as much of the Mueller report as possible, as soon as possible, because the public has a right to see what all the fuss was about."
    Word is there are already declassified summaries that were prepared by Mueller's team that have no "sanc y" violations.

    Where are those?

    And why can I see Bill Clinton's grand jury testimony on YouTube right now?

    Sanc y?

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    "the sanc y of the grand jury process"

    Why can I see Bill Clinton's grand jury testimony on YouTube right now?
    I'm assuming it's because Bill Clinton was actually accused of criminal wrong doing, unlike Trump.

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    I'm assuming it's because Bill Clinton was actually accused of criminal wrong doing, unlike Trump.
    Oh, so if someone is just accused of criminal wrongdoing, there is no sanc y?

    That's how it works?

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    Word is there are already declassified summaries that were prepared by Mueller's team that have no "sanc y" violations.

    Where are those?

    And why can I see Bill Clinton's grand jury testimony on YouTube right now?

    Sanc y?
    "word is"

    Post your source you ing pussy.

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    "word is"

    Post your source you ing pussy.
    Saw it earlier. Will try to find it again.

    If such summaries exist, what does that tell you about Barr's summary he says isn't a summary?

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    Oh, so if someone is just accused of criminal wrongdoing, there is no sanc y?

    That's how it works?
    You should probably study up on this topic if it interests you. Let us all know what you find out, I'm curious as well. For the time being I'm okay accepting what others that are far more knowledgeable on the subject than myself have to say.

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    You haven't been right about anything and just had two years of the narrative you pushed blow the up in your face
    Says the guy who posts the most outrageous, re ed conspiracies ever.

    Also which always end up dying with a whimper.

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    Saw it earlier. Will try to find it again.

    If such summaries exist, what does that tell you about Barr's summary he says isn't a summary?
    If such summaries don't exist, this line of conversation is meaningless and there is no reason to play a game of hypotheticals with you.

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    "word is"

    Post your source you ing pussy.
    Here's a source talking about it generally.



    Now what do you say, pussy?

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    If such summaries don't exist, this line of conversation is meaningless and there is no reason to play a game of hypotheticals with you.
    what a complete pussy Trump has made you.

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    Says the guy who posts the most outrageous, re ed conspiracies ever.

    Also which always end up dying with a whimper.
    You believed and fell for the largest bull conspiracy theory in the history of the United States, where does that leave us?

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    Here's a source talking about it generally.



    Now what do you say, pussy?
    I didn't ask you for a source talking about it generally. Provide your sources for word is there are already declassified summaries from Mueller's team.

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    what a complete pussy Trump has made you.
    Ahh someone's mad no one will discuss a "word is" rumor that might not even exist.

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    I didn't ask you for a source talking about it generally. Provide your sources for word is there are already declassified summaries from Mueller's team.
    McCarthy bad now.

    Hypothticals bad now.

    TSA pussy now.

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    Ahh someone's mad no one will discuss a "word is" rumor that might not even exist.
    Sorry, you've wishcasted with ifs and mights more than anyone here, pussy.

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    McCarthy bad now.

    Hypothticals bad now.

    TSA pussy now.
    The only pussy here is you. I'm not distracted by your attempts to move the conversation elsewhere. It's obvious to anyone reading along.

    Word is there are already declassified summaries that were prepared by Mueller's team that have no "sanc y" violations.
    Show your source pussy.

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