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I guess I wouldn’t be opposed to Bol Bol but I get a sense he could be the next Hasheem thabeet lol I know Bol can shoot it pretty good but ehh. Id rather the spurs select someone else
Completely agree. Dude seems like he marches to the beat of his own very slow drum. And that’s not a good thing. Don’t want
I guess I wouldn’t be opposed to Bol Bol but I get a sense he could be the next Hasheem thabeet lol I know Bol can shoot it pretty good but ehh. Id rather the spurs select someone else
I just don’t see the value of a 7’2 dude that can shoot from three if he’s too weak and slow to own the paint with that size. We already have a much better, albeit shorter, version in Bretans.
As Spurs fans, I think we should remember a respected opponent from past years: Dirk Nowitzki. If Bol Bol is there at 19 (and I suspect he won't be), I think you have to take the chance... He really can shoot it from the perimeter. He's also a better rebounder and shot blocker than Dirk ever was, because he just ridiculously long...
What worries me about Bol Bol is his foot injury - that makes me scared in a big man. Still, unless he medically red flags with Spurs doctors, I think we should take him is he's there.
What scares me is his work ethic his desire to play basketball full time and the his skinny frame and then his broken foot. I would pass on him maybe at 29 but wouldn’t dare at 18.
Bol bol would be a very nice player if he could avoid injuries. He is a really good offensive player plus he can protect the rim. The problems With him are one on one D as he is skinny and injuries but the talent is there.
Luxury of having two first rounders and a relatively filled out rotation is you can pick a guy who is essentially a red shirt like Okeke. Spurs don’t play rookies much anyway.
Bol is one of the few bigs worth a look given his shot. But I don’t understand these other drafts projecting the Spurs to take a big when they have Aldridge a few more years, a blossoming Poeltl and can always bring Nikola over eventually. Always draft BPA, except if it means collecting too many bigs you can’t play together.
Disagree with the drafting another big point; Aldridge seems unlikely to be on the team 3 years from now, based on what he's said. He'll be 35 after next season and a FA.
He told Lillard that he would end his career in Portland and told DeRozan that the Spurs are going to be his team sooner rather than later. Bringing over Milutinov this off season makes sense in case Aldridge decides to leave.
Drafting a big with one of the picks to sure up the center spot makes sense; not too familiar with Bol but I am a fan of taking Bitidze at 28/29. Spurs already have 3 recently drafted young guards so using the other pick on a 3 or 4 works too.
Aldridge may well not even be in SA next year if he wants to leave (again). Poeltl is an RFA after next season and there's no guarantee that he wouldn't be let go so the team could look for a big-name free agent. More than that, Pop seems keen to try playing two bigs again, and it's been working recently. So if LMA is going to be a PF again next year, the team has only Poeltl on the center depth chart. They could bring over Milutinov, but that's not a guarantee given that Gay could just decide to leave, forcing the Spurs to use the MLE to replace him. Yes, you can fill in that spot with min guys in today's NBA, but there's still a place for a developmental big, even with Metu. Then you add in that someone like Goga or Clarke (or Bol or Porter) might be able to play the four, and you have a perfectly good justification to go with a big man if you think that player will be good. There will be a generic wing available at 29, so there's no need to freak out and take one in the teens.
Clarke is still my guy with the Spurs pick. I think he will fall from his top-10 perch in a lot of current mocks, but I think he has a good chance to be a top-10 player the class. I really hate the Jordan Bell comparison. The extent to which Brandon is more impactful than Jordan was is insane:
http://www.tankathon.com/players/com...n--jordan-bell
It's so weird when people want Thybulle but are skeptical about Clarke when Brandon is a way better offensive player while also being a better defensive player.
lmao wut, I’ve seen the complete opposite. He’s a big that can handle the ball, shoot the three, and a monster shot blocker, feet might be a little slow on the perimeter, but so is a lot of big men in the league. Concerns are probably due to his build, and injuries.
I don't know where some of you get your opinions from. But damn you are so far off. Bol bol is not slow. Is he weak? Sure. But luckily the NBA isn't a power lifting compe ion. Seems porzingas and his slight build has made it work.
https://youtu.be/oioWaren3_4
Thybulle has been pushed as Spur’s flavor of the day. As Viceine pointed out that two years ago when Oregon played man Thybulle was a pedestrian defender on an Oregon team that was terrible defensively. He’s a trap and doubt he’ll go in the first round. Don’t want. Spurs have perimeter defense and if going perimeter need a SF with offense player like Cameron Johnson or Dylan Windler.
And Murray defensively on that Washington team with freshman Thybulle was an absolute disaster. Just trash.
Considering how things turned out with him and development of his tools, that doesn't make me apprehensive about Thybulle at all, in fact the opposite.
If Clarke does drop to the Spurs' pick, he might well be the BPA. But it kind of amazes me that everybody has been screaming that the Spurs need a 3-and-D guy, but don't think Clarke's lack of 3P shooting is an issue. This was his best 3P season ever, and he took something like 15 3PA compared to about 150 for Thybulle. We don't even want to talk about his 3P%. He may be the guy the Spurs should take, but he's not the guy everyone has been saying they need. He'll be a 23 year old rookie. That's not a problem, except that he's spent his whole career playing PF/C who does most of his scoring around the basket. If they do draft him, it will be interesting to see how they use him.
I don't think he's a "better" defender than Thybulle, but I think he's good. And he's cat-quick plus he's a legit 6'8" tall. Sure, if he goes as low as you think he would be hard to turn down.
On many boards Clarke is projected to be be picked well above the Spurs’ choice.
Clarke and thybulle have some same flaws, they are old rookies, not tall with 6-5 and 6-8. I would like thybulle at 29 but not higher.
Clarke I don’t know too much about his man on man defense or his jump shot but he has some good tools : athletism, hustle so he could be interesting.
For both I think they will be better options , players with more upside but also more risk. I agree that Clarke could be one of the more ready prospect.
What about a guy like jalen mcdaniels or isaiah roby.
Jalen mcdaniels 6'10"
https://youtu.be/CS0bXPNrHeU
Isaiah roby 6'8"
https://youtu.be/sPo2SbOx-K0
What's so special with Brandon Clarke? He's like an athletic Tyler Hansbrough to me. Undersize PF (6'8") and skinny (215 lbs). He's also already 22 years old. I looked for his offensive highlights and most of it are post-up, follow-up and lobs. Can't see how his game will translate sooner in the NBA. I've read that his defense is good as well but I rather have a defensive wing who can either drive or shoot.
I don't know, I maybe wrong but I'm really not high on him. It's easy to based on stats but I'm always looking how the players' game could translate in the NBA.
Nah, Thybulle isn't a good offensive player in any way while Clarke is one of the best in the nation. It's not a case where Clarke is an okay scorer who hasn't been able to expand his game. There just hasn't been a need for him to do so given how uber he is at the college level. I think it's a case like with White where you don't overthink things and just take a guy who's really good. If we were talking a lotto pick, I could see worrying about age or whatever. In the 20s, you just hope for rotation players, and Clarke should be that.
Plus Thybulle is REALLY small. He's much more in the class of Walker, White and Murray than he is the class of a small-forward. I don't see any reason to draft him if the goal is to find a defensive forward. That's not what Thybulle has been or will be. The team isn't filled with undersized, superathletic centers, nor do they have a lot of 6-8ish guys with Clarke's defensive chops. It would be nice for the combine to show Clarke as being an inch or two taller and 20 pounds heavier than the current listings. Even then, it would be encouraging to see Clarke knock down some perimeter shots during workouts. But I'd bet more on the Spurs developing that part of Clarke's game than I would on Thybulle improving enough to get minutes in this guard rotation.
I'm a fan of Roby at 29 or in the top of the second if the Spurs find themselves there after a trade. He seems more like a Jordan Bell clone than Clarke does. A jack of all trades guy. I just wonder if there's a good developmental path for him to become an NBA-level rotation player. I think even as is, he could eek out a career as a fringe, energy guy like Quincy Acy or Cun. But I'd be reluctant to draft him if I didn't see more in him than that.
Aldridge more than likely isn't going anywhere for at least another 2 seasons, people presume the Trail Blazers interest will be mutual and that even if it is, things will remain the same for 2+ years on both sides.
Poeltl isn't going anywhere for a while. Him being restricted is largely irrelevant as he plays the most saturated position in the league. No one is throwing the type of offer at him that would be required for the Spurs to not match.
Gay most likely isn't going anywhere either. Both sides need each other too much to think otherwise.
Milutinov, there's probably a good chance of being signed this off season. If not, finding a capable third C isn't difficult.
Even with Pop trying to shoehorn starting big as much as possible, all that means is Aldridge plays roughly the first six minutes of each half as a nominal PF. He'll still mostly play C.
Clarke will probably be able to defend big wings, but unless he develops a shot, he'll be a C on offense and with a mere 6'10'' wingspan, he'll likely need to be paired with a floor spacing/rim protecting big. I'd consider him, but a true C would be a waste at 19. None are projected as by far the best player in that range, which is what it should take, since it's the easiest position to find replacement level production.
It doesn't have to be Portland. All that has to happen is Aldridge has to tell Pop it's time for a trade. Pop was willing to fight it when the Spurs were contenders. I doubt he would be now.
The Spurs are pretty meh on re-signing their RFAs. I'm sure they like Poe and intend to keep him. But I also think it'd be easy to see a scenario where he doesn't come back. He should get a decent contract, and the Spurs may well want to prioritize adding someone to the Murray/DeRozan/Aldridge trio. I also don't think Murray is a lock to come back for similar reasons. Having Milutinov or another rotation-caliber C on the team already would only reduce the chances of Jakob being a Spurs past next season.Poeltl isn't going anywhere for a while. Him being restricted is largely irrelevant as he plays the most saturated position in the league. No one is throwing the type of offer at him that would be required for the Spurs to not match.
The Spurs need Gay, but I also think they have a limit on what they're willing to pay him next season. He's shown his limits in the Spurs' system, and he seems on the edge of even more decline. They may want him on a one-year deal, but they've structured their contracts so that they can have a window for cap space coming up, and I don't think they'll let Gay disrupt that. For Rudy's part, he has to think if winning a le is important to him. If it is, I think he'll have suitors who are stronger contenders. He's already shown he can be a valuable role-player. If the Spurs don't back up the truck for Rudy, I think it's even odds that he's in GS or Houston next year.Gay most likely isn't going anywhere either. Both sides need each other too much to think otherwise.
I agree it's not hard to find a rotation-caliber center. But that doesn't make drafting one a bad idea. I also think Pop is hesitating on playing more two-big lineups because he lacks another legit big (Motiejunas doesn't count). While I think he would always like the ability to run units with LMA at the five for a change of pace and to match up when necessary, I also think he likes the defensive potential of two-big units. Getting a mobile big like Clarke or bigs with range like Goga or Bol help make that work. Those are guys who should be able to play with Aldridge, Poeltl, Milutinov, Gay or whomever if given some time to develop. Not every NBA team is committed to playing small. If anything, I'd say that the league has started to trend back toward sanity this season.Milutinov, there's probably a good chance of being signed this off season. If not, finding a capable third C isn't difficult.
Even with Pop trying to shoehorn starting big as much as possible, all that means is Aldridge plays roughly the first six minutes of each half as a nominal PF. He'll still mostly play C.
I don't see why he can't play with a big like Aldridge. He is a rim-runner/shot-blocker like Poeltl. If Jakob and LMA can play together then it's not too hard to imagine Clarke getting minutes in a similar role. It takes chemistry more than anything. Yes, the Spurs would have to be confident in Clarke's potential to shoot from distance. But if they are, then they are drafting a combo-forward, not a center. That position is not remotely easy to fill nowadays. Physically, Clarke can play that role. Skill-wise he can do it on defense. Getting the offense to catch up would make him easily BPA at 18-20. Dude was a top-five player this year. No one projected outside the top-10 can say that.Clarke will probably be able to defend big wings, but unless he develops a shot, he'll be a C on offense and with a mere 6'10'' wingspan, he'll likely need to be paired with a floor spacing/rim protecting big. I'd consider him, but a true C would be a waste at 19. None are projected as by far the best player in that range, which is what it should take, since it's the easiest position to find replacement level production.
Clarke falling to the Spurs would be stunning
I never said thybulle is a good offensive player, I never said you can’t draft a 22 yers old guy or something like that... you don’t understand my post.
It’s just that for me they have some similarities : age, height but that’s it , so I agree with you overall.
About Clarke I’m not totally sold but it’s not like thybulle who does not worth a 19th pick for me, Clarke could but I have some concerns.
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