Clippers: announcer SEETHES over James Harden, calls him a system player cheater

[Double-Up]

And this is why I laugh when they say 'MVP is a RS award' as if we're supposed to wipe away the -stains of his gimmick being exposed in the postseason. The fact they are entertaining giving him another MVP over Giannis after what we've seen every May is....astounding

Are you ing blind? Harden has been on point this year, injuries, dropping 50 and 60 points like it's nothing. But hey you can't please everybody, especially a Raptors fan...

[Arcadian]

This. He would adapt to any era and find the inefficiencies needed to exploit.

Harden hasn't dominated . Get back to us when he accomplishes anything of significance.

[Arcadian]

What a . Rejected by a 37-year-old man.

[resistanze]

Are you ing blind? Harden has been on point this year, injuries, dropping 50 and 60 points like it's nothing. But hey you can't please everybody, especially a Raptors fan...

Harden is a scam artist like Westbrook that gets no love until he proves it in the postseason. Doesn't matter if I support the Warriors, Raptors or Knicks.

[DMC]

Dude just dropped a triple double last week. Holy you’re desperate for this one

Don't be so dense.

[Neo.]

no. One Malone elbow to the forehead, he never Eurosteps down the lane again. What Artest did to him was nothing.

1) he literally was concussed from an elbow to the head, and it didn't change him one bit. Artests shot wasnt nothing at all.

2) plenty of superstars in history have been elbowed in the face, clotheslined, thrown down, teeth knocked out, etc... and it never changed any of them. so why would harden somehow be more affected by it? there is literally no basis for that argument whatsoever, and i honestly have never understood why people bother making it and don't listen to how stupid the logic actually is

[DMC]

1) he literally was concussed from an elbow to the head, and it didn't change him one bit. Artests shot wasnt nothing at all.

2) plenty of superstars in history have been elbowed in the face, clotheslined, thrown down, teeth knocked out, etc... and it never changed any of them. so why would harden somehow be more affected by it? there is literally no basis for that argument whatsoever, and i honestly have never understood why people bother making it and don't listen to how stupid the logic actually is

It would change Harden because he's a pussy.

[Neo.]

It would change Harden because he's a pussy.

proof?

[spurraider21]

Harden would dominate any era, 3 point era or not. People who deny his greatness are taking his lack of entertainment for lack of skill.

yeah. people in the 80's barely defended the 3 point line... imagine them trying to defend crossover step back 3's ... even guys like reggie miller and ray allen barely did that stuff unless the clock called for it. harden does it all the time with decent efficiency.

[TDfan2007]

Harden is a great regular season player who is also exceptional at manipulating the rules. Even without the whistles, he's almost unguardable. I used to hate his game, and I still don't really like it, but you can't deny the guy's greatness.

[HarlemHeat37]

Harden is a great regular season player who is also exceptional at manipulating the rules. Even without the whistles, he's almost unguardable. I used to hate his game, and I still don't really like it, but you can't deny the guy's greatness.

I feel the same way, although I still hate his game, can't deny that he's a top 10 player of all-time during the RS..

Still hasn't proven anything in the playoffs, though..even in their run to the WCFs last year, he wasn't particularly impressive..

[Neo.]

Harden is a great regular season player who is also exceptional at manipulating the rules. Even without the whistles, he's almost unguardable. I used to hate his game, and I still don't really like it, but you can't deny the guy's greatness.

Agreed. The whistles just add a frustration factor, but even if you take a few cheap fouls away each game, then instead of averaging 35, hes averaging 28-30. Still unguardable.

[DMC]

proof?

[DMC]

yeah. people in the 80's barely defended the 3 point line... imagine them trying to defend crossover step back 3's ... even guys like reggie miller and ray allen barely did that stuff unless the clock called for it. harden does it all the time with decent efficiency.

Harden wouldn't have developed that shot back then.

[spurraider21]

Harden wouldn't have developed that shot back then.

If you make that assumption it defeats the entire purpose of the exercise. Aren’t we basically asking if his game would have translated?

[DMC]

If you make that assumption it defeats the entire purpose of the exercise. Aren’t we basically asking if his game would have translated?

I don't think so. The comment was that he would have dominated then as well, but he wouldn't have because he wouldn't be allowed to chuck 30 3's a game and he wouldn't get the ticky tack fouls he gets now. Hand checking was allowed. He'd be nothing more than a World B Free type player.

[313]

I don't think so. The comment was that he would have dominated then as well, but he wouldn't have because he wouldn't be allowed to chuck 30 3's a game and he wouldn't get the ticky tack fouls he gets now. Hand checking was allowed. He'd be nothing more than a World B Free type player.

His craftiness would have just manifested in a way that fits that era, but his success(RS, at least) would definitely translate.

[313]

Harden is averaging the same amount of FTAs as jordan in his 37 ppg year, and only 1 more than kobe in his 35 ppg year. He isn’t getting record amounts of Fts, he’s just getting buckets.

It’s crazy that him and KD were on the same team.

okc

[lefty]

yeah. people in the 80's barely defended the 3 point line... imagine them trying to defend crossover step back 3's ... even guys like reggie miller and ray allen barely did that stuff unless the clock called for it. harden does it all the time with decent efficiency.

He wouldn’t do it in that era because they didn’t play like that back then.
It’s not like he would find the time stone and time travel with his current skillset

[FrostKing]

yeah. people in the 80's barely defended the 3 point line... imagine them trying to defend crossover step back 3's ... even guys like reggie miller and ray allen barely did that stuff unless the clock called for it. harden does it all the time with decent efficiency.

There were less possessions back then. Harden would have gotten choked in the locker room by his teammates after his first game.

[spurraider21]

He wouldn’t do it in that era because they didn’t play like that back then.
It’s not like he would find the time stone and time travel with his current skillset

that makes this entire discussion of "would player x have succeeded in the y era" completely moot

[TDMVPDPOY]

i dunno about u guys, but it seems to me harden led team is better then a westbrook or kd led team...showing by the records since the trio breakup

[Neo.]

That is not proof of anything.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Harden is averaging the same amount of FTAs as jordan in his 37 ppg year, and only 1 more than kobe in his 35 ppg year. He isn’t getting record amounts of Fts, he’s just getting buckets.

It’s crazy that him and KD were on the same team.

okc

him, KD, and westbrook would have easily been better than the heatles and warriors... I said it in 2012 this team is going to dominate the next generation and I would have been right if they hadn't been stupid

[DMC]

that makes this entire discussion of "would player x have succeeded in the y era" completely moot

No it doesn't.