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    "Truly ing sad" to see anybody considering Barr to be ANYTHING but a corrupt political operator, with long corrupt political history, who distantly second is USAG.




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    Have you ever redacted something for privilege?
    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.
    Repug Starr degraded, humiliated Dem Clinton by publishing his report, but now that an actual criminal/traitor of a President is a Repug, the Repug AG must "take the high road", not publish Repug's crimes.

    Same , all the time, from the Repugs, all honorable people

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    Repug Starr degraded, humiliated Dem Clinton by publishing his report, but now that an actual criminal/traitor of a President is a Repug, the Repug AG must "take the high road", not publish Repug's crimes.

    Same , all the time, from the Repugs, all honorable people
    “taking the high road” in this case is doing nothing more than following the rule of law. Should the Attorney General not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.
    Wasn’t my question. I’m aware of the standards for privilege. And I’ve had to redact plenty of do ents for privilege. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you never have, have you?

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    Wasn’t my question. I’m aware of the standards for privilege. And I’ve had to redact plenty of do ents for privilege. Correct me if I’m wrong, but you never have, have you?
    I never have. Do you want Barr to ignore the procedures put in place after Clinton and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    Wasn’t my question.
    I have a couple of questions if you're not too busy grandstanding.

    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    I have a couple of questions if you're not too busy grandstanding.

    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr?
    Not completely. What are they, Qhris?

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    Not completely. What are they, Qhris?
    you think TSA will pass him a note with the answer on it?

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    you think TSA will pass him a note with the answer on it?
    In fairness I didn't ask him to explain it in his own words this time.

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    I never have. Do you want Barr to ignore the procedures put in place after Clinton and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.
    Exactly. You haven't. So you don't know how easy it is to redact information that has no business being redacted. Lawyers do that regularly, under the pretense of following applicable standards. These "standards" get abused regularly. That's why you have to have a privilege log along with protocols like in camera review etc.... None of which applies here.

    It's so cute that you think this is a straightforward process.

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    I have a couple of questions if you're not too busy grandstanding.

    Are you aware of the procedures put in place after Clinton/Starr? Do you want Barr to ignore those and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.
    You don't get to ask me questions about the law no more Mr. Mandamus/three-fifths compromise. You can't pay my fee.

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    You don't get to ask me questions about the law no more Mr. Mandamus/three-fifths compromise. You can't pay my fee.
    So you're just trolling.

    Got it

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    It's a conspiracy theory guys!

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    So you're just trolling.

    Got it
    Where are those procedures you were talking about?

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    So you're just trolling.

    Got it
    Incorrect.

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    For the record, all 28 CFR 600.9 says is that Barr may determine that the release of Mueller's report is in the public's interest, to the extent that such release complies with "applicable legal restrictions." Acting like Barr hasn't used or won't overuse privilege associated with grand jury materials to block non-privileged materials is totally out of touch with how lawyers operate. Particularly where there's no third-party review, i.e., an in camera inspection of the redactions.

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    It's a conspiracy theory guys!
    Dude you posted a 53 minute conspiracy video just yesterday.

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    Oh, and there's an argument that Barr himself should file a Federal Rule 6(e) pe ion to disclose the grand jury material under the exception contained in Rule 6(e)(A)(i).

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    Exactly. You haven't. So you don't know how easy it is to redact information that has no business being redacted. Lawyers do that regularly, under the pretense of following applicable standards. These "standards" get abused regularly. That's why you have to have a privilege log along with protocols like in camera review etc.... None of which applies here.

    It's so cute that you think this is a straightforward process.
    I've seen how easy it is to redact information that has no business being redacted, Mueller's lawyers did it regularly to try and protect the FBI from being embarrassed. I'll ask you for the third time, do you want Barr to ignore the procedures put in place after Clinton and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.

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    Or 6(e)(3)(E)(i) given Nadler's subpoena arguably is a legal proceeding. Certainly any court fight on quashing the subpoena would be a legal proceeding.

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    I've seen how easy it is to redact information that has no business being redacted, Mueller's lawyers did it regularly to try and protect the FBI from being embarrassed. I'll ask you for the third time, do you want Barr to ignore the procedures put in place after Clinton and not follow the rule of law? Yes or no.
    This make no sense (you've seen information redacted by Mueller??). But, taken at your word, you've conceded that redactions get abused - do you think Trump's appointee serving at the pleasure of the president will or won't abuse the pretense of privilege?

    The AG swore an oath to uphold the cons ution. I've given two examples of how he could use exceptions under Rule 6(e) to authorize disclosure. But please, continue to lecture me on procedural technicalities.

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