Spurs will pick 19th in draft

[noles1983]

Paging Herman Cain.

Ahhhhhh shucky ducky

[MoSpur02]

The best we could possibly get out of that is to move up a spot with Indiana or maybe a second spot up. I'd rather hold on to that Toronto pick and get Thybulle, who many would consider a reach at 29th but his defense is too enticing for this Spurs team to pass up at that pick, tbh.

Thybulle would be a great pickup.

[JPB]

DJ, D-White, Lonnie, Poodle, 19th, 29th, no albatroses, Ime or Messina ready to take the torch, Spurs should be compe ive for a while still...

[r0drig0lac]

He's dropped, only NBA draft net has him inside of the top 11. The other big draft sites have him going 13, 19, 14, 16, 19 and 11.

It's not inconceivable tbh.

interesting, I still can not believe he will be at the table after the 8th pick

[Thomas82]

I hope we go big with this pick.

[cd021]

interesting, I still can not believe he will be at the table after the 8th pick

Certainly seems that way at the moment. Players like Doumboya have jumped into the lottery contention with others jumping into the late teens. Rui seems to be sliding for some reason.

[cd021]

The best we could possibly get out of that is to move up a spot with Indiana or maybe a second spot up. I'd rather hold on to that Toronto pick and get Thybulle, who many would consider a reach at 29th but his defense is too enticing for this Spurs team to pass up at that pick, tbh.

https://hoopshype.com/2019/04/12/nba...ndu-kabengele/

He seems to be projecting by most mocks to go between 24-30, so he may not even be there at 29. I wouldn't take him at 19 but at 29, that's a great value.

[DavidTheGoliath]

I hope Bol Bol falls to us. People point out his weight being too light for an NBA big, but The Admiral weighed the same back when Centers were ing Centers, not the pussies they have now sitting at the perimeter, jacking shots like they were Curry, tbh.

What? I thought Bol is a 3 pt chucking center pussy himself?

[SpurPadre]

What? I thought Bol is a 3 pt chucking center pussy himself?

My point is that fits in today's NBA but people keep pointing at his weight as being a barrier. A 235 pound Center is NOT a problem the way bigs play in today's NBA and it certainly wasn't a problem for Da Admiral back when Centers dominated and punished people down low.

[SpurPadre]

https://hoopshype.com/2019/04/12/nba...ndu-kabengele/

He seems to be projecting by most mocks to go between 24-30, so he may not even be there at 29. I wouldn't take him at 19 but at 29, that's a great value.

I've seen some mocks have him at 2nd round but also as high as 22nd. If he is there for us at 29, it would have to be a no-brainer for Pop.

[sasaint]

I don't see Forbes having nearly as big of a role. White, Murray, DeRozan are all going to eat up significant at guard/wing. Add in Mills and Belinelli and it's hard to see him playing more than spot minutes.

I find it hard to believe that Pop will demote a starter (even one by necessity) to spot minutes. I see him getting more minutes than Marco and possibly Mills. Tbh, I don't expect the whole group to last beyond the draft. One or two of our backcourt guys will be gone - if not around the draft, before the start of the regular season. Pop obviously likes Forbes, he is improving, and he is very cheap.

[Seventyniner]

I want the Spurs to keep #29, they draft damn well in the late first. Another Dejounte or Derrick level impact player will be pretty important two years from now.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Idk where to post this but i'll just leave this here

https://youtu.be/xaiYJpo2Gc8

[ZeusWillJudge]

Oh good! A nice fresh thread to discuss the exact same things that have been discussed to death elsewhere. I guess the OP didn't know about that.

Wait... hasn't the OP been posting in those other threads that discuss the exact same things?

[cd021]

I find it hard to believe that Pop will demote a starter (even one by necessity) to spot minutes. I see him getting more minutes than Marco and possibly Mills. Tbh, I don't expect the whole group to last beyond the draft. One or two of our backcourt guys will be gone - if not around the draft, before the start of the regular season. Pop obviously likes Forbes, he is improving, and he is very cheap.

I expect Murray to play around 28 mpg, White may end up playing the same off the bench or start and play more. DeRozan will play around 33 mpg at the 3.

If Murray, White, DDR, LMA, and Jakob is the SL (I have serious doubts about that lineup, but still) the bench may end being Mills, Beli, Bertans and Gay. Walker may have a chance to usurp Beli sometime next season but I think Mills is pretty entrenched as the backup PG.

Forbes isn't going to be taking minutes from Bertans or Gay so I think Forbes is the odd man unless an unforeseen trade of Mills.


I think attempting to move Forbes at the draft makes plenty of sense because of the log jam at guard next season.

[CGD]

The only quibble I have is that I think Bryn may well be better next season. He will have this season under his belt, but he will return to a bench role @ +/- 25 minutes per game. But the rest I agree with.

Plus, AD would be a much better fit with Poodle.

I’ve been impressed with Forbes this year, and I feel he’d be primed to take over for Mills next season (but alas). It’s why I think he’d be more enticing than a late first, but if they want 29 instead or a future 1st that’d work too.

[sasaint]

I expect Murray to play around 28 mpg, White may end up playing the same off the bench or start and play more. DeRozan will play around 33 mpg at the 3.

If Murray, White, DDR, LMA, and Jakob is the SL (I have serious doubts about that lineup, but still) the bench may end being Mills, Beli, Bertans and Gay. Walker may have a chance to usurp Beli sometime next season but I think Mills is pretty entrenched as the backup PG.

Forbes isn't going to be taking minutes from Bertans or Gay so I think Forbes is the odd man unless an unforeseen trade of Mills.


I think attempting to move Forbes at the draft makes plenty of sense because of the log jam at guard next season.

Forbes and Mills are at the core of this discussion, it seems. I have said for 2 years that Patty was not going anywhere and he was becoming de facto team leader. But if it comes down to an expensive Mills or Pop's newest creation, an inexpensive Bryn, I could see Patty being the odd man out. He may still be on the team, but I hope either Forbes or Mills is gone. I would prefer that be Mills, and I think Pop will lean that way in the end.

All of the speculation on ST could be absolutely moot if LMA and/or Dumbmar wants a trade...

[sasaint]

I’ve been impressed with Forbes this year, and I feel he’d be primed to take over for Mills next season (but alas). It’s why I think he’d be more enticing than a late first, but if they want 29 instead or a future 1st that’d work too.

Pop may well feel like Bryn is also sufficiently imbued with Spurs culture to dispense with Patty. Marco, Davis and even LMA and Rudy have a lot of Spurs culture instilled in them. The greater issue is leadership. Unfortunately, we don't have any of those. Murray has shown some impressive leadership instincts/moxy, but I am not convinced he has shown the maturity or judgment to assume the role yet.

[cd021]

Forbes and Mills are at the core of this discussion, it seems. I have said for 2 years that Patty was not going anywhere and he was becoming de facto team leader. But if it comes down to an expensive Mills or Pop's newest creation, an inexpensive Bryn, I could see Patty being the odd man out. He may still be on the team, but I hope either Forbes or Mills is gone. I would prefer that be Mills, and I think Pop will lean that way in the end.

All of the speculation on ST could be absolutely moot if LMA and/or Dumbmar wants a trade...

Mills may be on the odd man out after next season but probably not next season, he is still productive so I don't see Forbes usurping his role.

It makes more sense to try and trade him; Forbes cheap deal makes him more tradeable and plus it's hard to envision him having a big role going forward with White, Murray, DeRozan and Walker all on the team

[TDMVPDPOY]

Mills may be on the odd man out after next season but probably not next season, he is still productive so I don't see Forbes usurping his role.

It makes more sense to try and trade him; Forbes cheap deal makes him more tradeable and plus it's hard to envision him having a big role going forward with White, Murray, DeRozan and Walker all on the team

nobody is touching mills contract, unless its expiring...

how much more youth movement is the spurs going to do?

i thought poodle, white, walker, murray and maybe forbes is a good core to keep around?

[SURGE]

Really hope we can draft Jaylen Hands or Kevin Porter JR

[cd021]

nobody is touching mills contract, unless its expiring...

how much more youth movement is the spurs going to do?

i thought poodle, white, walker, murray and maybe forbes is a good core to keep around?

It's not like Mills is an albatross; if the spur motivated to move him then I think they still could. Forbes is the easier of the two to move, for a number of reasons. Jakob, White, Walker, and Murray is a fine core plus the 19th and 29th picks. Forbes may not be a part of the future, however.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Idk where to post this but i'll just leave this here

https://youtu.be/xaiYJpo2Gc8

The culture and the ability to spot hidden potential are all we have.

We're done if we ever lose either one.

[ceperez]

Forbes and Mills are at the core of this discussion, it seems. I have said for 2 years that Patty was not going anywhere and he was becoming de facto team leader. But if it comes down to an expensive Mills or Pop's newest creation, an inexpensive Bryn, I could see Patty being the odd man out. He may still be on the team, but I hope either Forbes or Mills is gone. I would prefer that be Mills, and I think Pop will lean that way in the end.

All of the speculation on ST could be absolutely moot if LMA and/or Dumbmar wants a trade...

Patty is the glue guy in the organization, he's a bench player that'll be with the Spurs for life.

[ceperez]

It's not like Mills is an albatross; if the spur motivated to move him then I think they still could. Forbes is the easier of the two to move, for a number of reasons. Jakob, White, Walker, and Murray is a fine core plus the 19th and 29th picks. Forbes may not be a part of the future, however.

I think you undersell Forbes. The thing about Forbes is, despite complete lack of talent, continues to improve his game. There isn't a lot of players that do this in the NBA.