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    This what I was trying ton keep my focus on in this game. If Kawhi is no longer the two-way terror we saw from 2015-17, his efficient offense alone is nothing to write home about compared to the likes of Harden/Curry/KD. Those guys can affect the game far more than he does with the ball in their hands.
    Nephew isn't quite in that trio's category offensively but he's good enough on that end to command a max deal. Very likely a top 10 offensive weapon in the league, IMO. Defensively, though, he gets by on his reputation and can sometimes step it up and string together a few great possessions but usually he plays at an average level on that end.

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    That Nurse re comes off like he thinks he's some kind of genius coach
    Hahaha! He sure did.

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    At not even attempting to fight over the screen with the game on the line (against a plus 3-point shooter no less) and forcing the immobile Gasol to contest late.

    At playing 33 minutes, with no foul trouble, in a playoff game.

    At the media for continue to slurp him and their organization, when his playoff resume as a featured player is lousy.
    I'm no longer blaming Pop like I used to do. This guy simply can't shoulder any sort of heavy load a typical superstar would be lifting at his age..

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    In a situation like this when you have so little time you shoot right away or you may end up with the ball in your hands and no time. Orlando had a foul to give, its not like they didn't have a foul to give and it was an automatic two FTs in which case i agree that NBA teams usually never foul there.
    No team is going to give a foul with three seconds to go with the ball in the hands of a three-point shooter when you're up three points. That impossible. Someone lunges to commit a foul, the shooter would just shoot the ball.

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    Nephew isn't quite in that trio's category offensively but he's good enough on that end to command a max deal. Very likely a top 10 offensive weapon in the league, IMO. Defensively, though, he gets by on his reputation and can sometimes step it up and string together a few great possessions but usually he plays at an average level on that end.

    Should be the end of that particular part of the discussion.

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    That play call to end the game was Popesque.. fadeaway three from the top of the key by Kawhi had zero chance of going in.
    For a czar you really missed the play if you think that was the playcall it was a double stunt the first was for danny and the second was for kawhi, Gasol really ed up the screen on Kawhi, but he shouldn't have been so deep anyway.

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    Should be the end of that particular part of the discussion.
    Yep. I certainly wouldn't sign him to a max deal at 5 years. Or 4. Maybe 3.

    Maybe 4 after one year of seeing him play back to backs and not phoning it in on defense the way he seems to be doing this year.

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    Raptor fans are already accepting he is leaving on Twitter. Just search Kawhi and see the meltdown. They are mostly blaming 0-7 Lowry and not Nephew for the loss. They seemed jinxed at home for some reason.

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    Yep. I certainly wouldn't sign him to a max deal at 5 years. Or 4. Maybe 3.

    Maybe 4 after one year of seeing him play back to backs and not phoning it in on defense the way he seems to be doing this year.

    What TIMVP said is that he's good enough to command a max deal. And he is. Dissecting it any further is beyond pointless. His next deal will be a max deal. The only possible exception is if he makes a sweetheart deal to get where he wants to be, and to allow them to sign another max player. I don't think his uncle would let him do that.

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    What TIMVP said is that he's good enough to command a max deal. And he is. Dissecting it any further is beyond pointless. His next deal will be a max deal. The only possible exception is if he makes a sweetheart deal to get where he wants to be, and to allow them to sign another max player. I don't think his uncle would let him do that.
    Undoubtedly someone will sign him to a max deal. Not challenging that it will happen. I'm challenging the sanity of that.

    He's too fragile and doesn't play enough games. And has leadership issues. And his defense is not what it was.

    All that adds up to a unenviable position of offering it or not. I wouldn't do it. I think not doing so led to his exit from SA.

    I'd rather sign a much older LouWill to a max than Nephew.

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    When people say here that Kawhi didn't play defense anymore....He was on Aaron Gordon most game. Gordon finished with only 10 points in .30 FG%

    If you think the last play on DJ was only Kawhi's fault...What's about Marc being so slow there???

    But but his defense isn't the same... it's all Kawhi's fault
    Last edited by YGWHI; 04-13-2019 at 08:20 PM.

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    Other than maybe Milwaukee, Orlando probably has the best options to defend Kawhi in the league..wouldn't be that surprising if he continues to play at the level he did today, which is good but not great..
    He made 5 points in a row to give his team the lead remaining 1 minute. Super-efficient .56 FG% .60 3P% shooting in the game.

    Lowry and Nurse the bed. Kawhi needed more shots in a close game instead of watching Lowry Ibaka and Powell missing their shots.

    Also, it's dumb to think his camp asked for less minutes when Nurse played all his starters but Siakam 31-33 minutes. That's on Nurse too.

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    Nephew just doesn't look the same as that guy who had 7 steals against the Warriors. I still say he has some long term issue or he's not going all out to protect his max deal. Nevertheless, Toronto fans must be beside themselves.. you bring in nephew to close out games like this and he comes up short just like previous Raptor teams.

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    Nephew just doesn't look the same as that guy who had 7 steals against the Warriors. I still say he has some long term issue or he's not going all out to protect his max deal. Nevertheless, Toronto fans must be beside themselves.. you bring in nephew to close out games like this and he comes up short just like previous Raptor teams.
    Yep...I wonder why they trust in Kawhi in crunch time... 9-18 this season. .50%


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    It'll be interesting to see how he gets used to playing consecutive games the rest of the way. His ass is lucky the league looked out for him by having Game 2 on Tuesday instead of Monday.

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    I still think that Fat Gasol trade gives Toronto a chance. Ibaka, Lowry are inconsistent playoff performers. Gasol is on the decline, but can still hit a big shot. They will beat Orlando. Brooklyn much more likely to pull the upset. If so, Brett Brown better start looking for realtor. Another overrated coach from Pop’s tree.

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    0 steals

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    Congratulations on turning into Melo 2.0, Kawhi..

    But det .PPG looks nice, though..

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    He made 5 points in a row to give his team the lead remaining 1 minute. Super-efficient .56 FG% .60 3P% shooting in the game.

    Lowry and Nurse the bed. Kawhi needed more shots in a close game instead of watching Lowry Ibaka and Powell missing their shots.

    Also, it's dumb to think his camp asked for less minutes when Nurse played all his starters but Siakam 31-33 minutes. That's on Nurse too.
    If only Kawhi could go hard day in day out light you do. 33 minutes.

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    ... Brooklyn much more likely to pull the upset. If so, Brett Brown better start looking for realtor. Another overrated coach from Pop’s tree.
    If anything, Brown is under rated. Look at all the crap he's had to deal with there. The multi-year tanking, to the point the league intervened. The Fultz fiasco.. The Jimmy Butler deal. Etc. Gotta admire Brown for still even wanting to try to coach that disaster zone.

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    Kawhi

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    If only Kawhi could go hard day in day out light you do. 33 minutes.
    He played 33 minutes because his coach is a completely stupid





    Nurse can't make a decent call even if his life depends on it..

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    Congratulations on turning into Melo 2.0, Kawhi..

    But det .PPG looks nice, though..
    I wonder who guarded Aaron Gordon and forced him to finish with only 10 pts in .30 FG%

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    wtf was lowry still in the game when other team made their run

    wtf is he still in the game closing out quarters and that final 2min of the game? clown was lost on every defensive play....where he got beat... then again having fleet or lin out there will be the same ...undersized midgets

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    The Magic dont take advantage of the mismatches they have in the paint. I seen Issac have Kyle on him in the post an pass it out. Gordan also.... they need to punish Kyle for getting in the paint.

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