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    The tanker in me wants drop to eighth for the slightly better pick. I actually think we got a better shot against the Warriors than the Rockets. I’d still pick Warriors overall, Rockets seem to have our number this year.

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    Rockets in 4

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    We’re not even playing them

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    RealGM has a thread discussing this, Bucks basically gave to Harden freedom to attack the rim (and forced him to use the weak hand) and challenged his floater, mid range, etc. I just do not believe the Spurs have the human material (in terms of size and athletic skills) to do something like this, Harden can just run over our guards.
    Shoutout to rodrigolac,if the Jazz personnel can't use the gimmicky "stay on Harden's left hand" strategy,no chance in the Spurs could use that strategy as well.

    Maybe it just works with Bledsoe and Giannis covering him.Oh boy it was brutal last night.


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    No intelligent Spurs fan on the board thinks they could have hanged with Houston in the 1st round tbh, only straight re s.....

    Now if you catch them in the WCF after CP3 gets hurt....

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    at anyone who actually wanted to play the 2nd best team in the West in round 1. Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame.

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    Shoutout to rodrigolac,if the Jazz personnel can't use the gimmicky "stay on Harden's left hand" strategy,no chance in the Spurs could use that strategy as well.

    Maybe it just works with Bledsoe and Giannis covering him.Oh boy it was brutal last night.

    Problem with this defense is the open shooters due to his gravity. See Mitc and Gobert rotating to cover the drive and Gordon wide open with no hands up to deter the pass, either. With longer defenders this might actually work.

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    its one thing to stay on his left hand. rubio literally stood behind him

    that had nothing to do with rubio's size/length... that was just awful execution

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    Shoutout to rodrigolac,if the Jazz personnel can't use the gimmicky "stay on Harden's left hand" strategy,no chance in the Spurs could use that strategy as well.

    Maybe it just works with Bledsoe and Giannis covering him.Oh boy it was brutal last night.

    That was awful defense by the Jazz, tbh.

    One thing is to overplay the 3 pt line, but another is just to gift him a straight line attack. Another important thing is that the rest of the defenders need to remain disciplined and stay with their shooters. There's no point in overplaying Harden's off the drible 3 just to allow an easier spot up 3. That's just re ed.

    Also, they need to mix it up a bit. One possession overplay Harden's 3 and on the other stay in front and bait him into taking a contested step back three.

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    That was awful defense by the Jazz, tbh.

    One thing is to overplay the 3 pt line, but another is just to gift him a straight line attack. Another important thing is that the rest of the defenders need to remain disciplined and stay with their shooters. There's no point in overplaying Harden's off the drible 3 just to allow an easier spot up 3. That's just re ed.

    Also, they need to mix it up a bit. One possession overplay Harden's 3 and on the other stay in front and bait him into taking a contested step back three.
    Do you think the Spurs can push the Rockets to 6 games?

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    The defensive scheme is not just to stay on his left hand. It's to stay on his left side to prevent the lefty drive (his obviously strong side), and also to prevent the step back 3. Basically to allow dribble penetration into the zone everyone knows Rockettes don't play, the mid range. Again, the problem is guys left their mans and shooters got open. But similar schemes have been successfully played before.

    Multiple teams loaded up on Manu's left side all the time and said don't let him go left. Multiple times this was tried he passed them left anyway, after a lot of off-ball movement to get them on their heels. Also, Bowen did this on Nash to guard against the pass and make Nash a shooter. Also lots of guys tried this on CP3 before CP3 regressed to be Andre Miller.


    See Manu do this successfully to James on this block. He stayed on the left hand just like he was coached to do. He had the length to block the shot.

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    thats a lot easier when theres 4 seconds on the clock and you know they have to shoot a 3 pointer

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    Do you think the Spurs can push the Rockets to 6 games?
    Yeah, I think they could. We have play them close this season and Pop owns D'antoni.

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    its one thing to stay on his left hand. rubio literally stood behind him

    that had nothing to do with rubio's size/length... that was just awful execution

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    Problem with this defense is the open shooters due to his gravity. See Mitc and Gobert rotating to cover the drive and Gordon wide open with no hands up to deter the pass, either. With longer defenders this might actually work.
    That was awful defense by the Jazz, tbh.

    One thing is to overplay the 3 pt line, but another is just to gift him a straight line attack. Another important thing is that the rest of the defenders need to remain disciplined and stay with their shooters. There's no point in overplaying Harden's off the drible 3 just to allow an easier spot up 3. That's just re ed.

    Also, they need to mix it up a bit. One possession overplay Harden's 3 and on the other stay in front and bait him into taking a contested step back three.
    We're not conversing if it can work theoretically,we've seen it work.It most definitely diminishes Harden's impact on the game.

    And we also covered that it needs a good on ball defender that can physically keep up with Harden's pushing,fast,lengthy alert wings filling the passing lanes and a good to great rim protector.

    The debate was if the Spurs can apply this form of defense or not.Yes,the Jazz,executed it terribly,and yes D.White probably does a better work at that than Rubio,but we have neither the wings or the rim protection,and after seeing Utah failing miserable,i'm not at all confident we would do better.

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    We're not conversing if it can work theoretically,we've seen it work.It most definitely diminishes Harden's impact on the game.

    And we also covered that it needs a good on ball defender that can physically keep up with Harden's pushing,fast,lengthy alert wings filling the passing lanes and a good to great rim protector.

    The debate was if the Spurs can apply this form of defense or not.Yes,the Jazz,executed it terribly,and yes D.White probably does a better work at that than Rubio,but we have neither the wings or the rim protection,and after seeing Utah failing miserable,i'm not at all confident we would do better.
    What I'm telling you it's, that whatever it is that the Jazz did on game 1, that was not the type of defense the Spurs apllied in '17 and the Bucks this season.

    It was not a problem of personel, it was a problem of scheming. The Spurs pulled it off with Patty Millls and Pau Gasol in 2017 because they had the right scheme. I don't know what kind of abortion the Jazz tried in game 1, but it definitely wasn't that. They might have tried to go for it but they got all the vital points wrong, tbh.

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    What I'm telling you it's, that whatever it is that the Jazz did on game 1, that was not the type of defense the Spurs apllied in '17 and the Bucks this season.

    It was not a problem of personel, it was a problem of scheming. The Spurs pulled it off with Patty Millls and Pau Gasol in 2017 because they had the right scheme. I don't know what kind of abortion the Jazz tried in game 1, but it definitely wasn't that. They might have tried to go for it but they got all the vital points wrong, tbh.
    Gobert was constantly out of position,too early or too late to close up the drive,the floor was spread so Harden was basically going left after going past main defender,the wings were not moving and generally everything was going to .
    An abortion,just like you said.

    I still do not trust THIS years Spurs to work the scheme to perfection.I will monitor the Utah-Houston series to see how Quin Snyder responds cause for a defensive wizard that was a horrible excuse of a defensive effort.

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    we should all know who DDR is by now... wouldn't be surprised if he scored 38 points in one PO game and then 9 points in the next one.

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    HOU winning game 3 in utah with harden shooting 3 for 20

    the point god came thru

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