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    The Good Doctor Rummpd's Avatar
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    1. Allen
    2. Manu
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    Starting a team go with above in primes

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    1. Wade
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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    manu is always a "what could have been" with respect to his ability to lead a team and to have a team built around him. ray allen gets underrated because people remember him too much for his celtics/heat days. i know spurstalk will have manu >>> allen but i dont think its that big a gap, especially because we've seen allen carry teams for seasons at a time

    1. Wade
    2a. Manu
    2b. Allen

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    Veteran LkrFan's Avatar
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    Manure
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    In that order

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    non-essential Chris's Avatar
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    1. Manu
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    3. Allen

    Allen doesn't even belong in the conversation. A complimentary piece.

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    Should have went with Allen Iverson. Then we have:

    1. AI
    2. Manu
    3. Wade

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    1. Manu
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    Allen doesn't even belong in the conversation. A complimentary piece.
    Gift given to Wade-Allen by CIA Popped in 2013 or these two don't ring.

    We saw how effective Wade and Allen truly were when Timmy Duncar took over as player coach in 2014 while Crater stayed out of the way.

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    Gift given to Wade-Allen by CIA Popped in 2013 or these two don't ring.

    We saw how effective Wade and Allen truly were when Timmy Duncar took over as player coach in 2014 while Crater stayed out of the way.
    Timmy Duncar

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Wade is clearly number one. Why the contrary views for shock value?

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    tbh, Allen tried to be a franchise player and failed. But he was a great shooting specialist. Wade was athletically superior by a mile compared to the other two. Manu was just versatile. He gave you offense, defense, when you needed it.

    Honestly hard to rank, different players, all great players.

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    tbh, Allen tried to be a franchise player and failed. But he was a great shooting specialist. Wade was athletically superior by a mile compared to the other two. Manu was just versatile. He gave you offense, defense, when you needed it.

    Honestly hard to rank, different players, all great players.
    Wade and Manu def had great years. Allen meh not so much. Good? Yes. Great? Meh. His chokage with little Derek Swisher guarding him most of the game vs the Flamers in Game 7 gives his legacy a huge cut.

    Manu I think Craters failure to get him off the court during his 2013 Alzheimers episodes most def tarnished Manu. Sure he got it back in 14 but take that '13 L off the record and he is looking even better. I know with no 13 we might not have had an uber motivated Timmy Dunks who demanded 100% from everyone so theres that. Do we repeat in 14 if Crater and Manu do not ruin 13? Maybe not.

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    Allen was robbed as a Buck in 2001 vs. Philly. (Ray Ray did 22/5/5 on ~50% on the season). I still maintain they were the better team. Even before 6, he had plenty of clutch playoff performances.

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    Body Of Work Mr. Body's Avatar
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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    tbh, Allen tried to be a franchise player and failed. But he was a great shooting specialist. Wade was athletically superior by a mile compared to the other two. Manu was just versatile. He gave you offense, defense, when you needed it.

    Honestly hard to rank, different players, all great players.
    thats such a gross understatement of what ray allen was, though...

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    ಥ﹏ಥ DAF86's Avatar
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    Wade is clearly number one. Why the contrary views for shock value?
    I wouldn't say "clearly", tbh. Aside from 2006, with Shaq on his side, Wade never did too much as the go to guy of a franchise, tbh.

    Wade was a monster on all facets of the game except the most important one: shooting (specially for a Shooting guard). That's why I wouldn't say he's "clearly" better than the other two, but I do have him on the top.

    1-Wade
    2-Manu
    3-Allen

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    i will say that manu did have one of his best playoff performance against ray allen


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    i will say that manu did have one of his best playoff performance against ray allen

    Manu was a monster. Some people are way too caught up with the fact of never seeing him as the official alpha dog of an NBA team, but those same people ignore the fact that guys like DeRozan and Lowry have "led" the Raptors to multiple elite regular season records. Folks need to open their mind a bit more.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Manu was a monster. Some people are way too caught up with the fact of never seeing him as the official alpha dog of an NBA team, but those same people ignore the fact that guys like DeRozan and Lowry have "led" the Raptors to multiple elite regular season records. Folks need to open their mind a bit more.
    its just that its still a hypothetical with him. we've never seen a team "built around" prime manu. we've never seen teams rely on manu to be the #1 for extended periods of time.

    manu led the spurs in scoring exactly 1 time in his career (07-08) and that season ended with them getting bounced in 5 games by the lakers. manu had 1 great game where the spurs won, and in the other 4 games he scored a total of 33 points on 10/38 shooting

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    I wouldn't say "clearly", tbh. Aside from 2006, with Shaq on his side, Wade never did too much as the go to guy of a franchise, tbh.

    Wade was a monster on all facets of the game except the most important one: shooting (specially for a Shooting guard). That's why I wouldn't say he's "clearly" better than the other two, but I do have him on the top.

    1-Wade
    2-Manu
    3-Allen
    Actually, you are right. If it was today’s nba then wade would go down the list.

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    its just that its still a hypothetical with him. we've never seen a team "built around" prime manu. we've never seen teams rely on manu to be the #1 for extended periods of time.

    manu led the spurs in scoring exactly 1 time in his career (07-08) and that season ended with them getting bounced in 5 games by the lakers. manu had 1 great game where the spurs won, and in the other 4 games he scored a total of 33 points on 10/38 shooting
    I've seen teams built around him, all were champions, tbh.

    Also, way to sell short a WCF on one ankle, tbh.

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    I've seen teams built around him, all were champions, tbh.

    Also, way to sell short a WCF on one ankle, tbh.
    yeah lets also talk about his durability issues even when taking a secondary/bench role most of his career

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    Wade's peak was only beaten by Dad Killer among SGs..the 2006 Finals was historic, he single-handedly beat a very good Mavs team that had a top 20 player in his prime..

    Many have forgotten how dominant he was due to the lack of popularity during the 2003-2007 era(along with being LeBron's sidekick in the era which saw the NBA's resurgence)

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    thats such a gross understatement of what ray allen was, though...
    Let’s say he was an elite shooting specialist? I mean he wasn’t a difference maker on defense, his driving/passing wasn’t noteworthy, you just couldn’t give him an inch of daylight for a shot, or he’ll burn you.

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