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    a liar and a welcher
    Wanna see who the names are?

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    Posting the same story from Fusion Ken and Kyle Griffin. You’d think after getting 2 years of your own shoved down your throat by your God Mueller you’d have learned something but nope, you jumped right back in it

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    Wanna see who the names are?
    Don’t need to, they have nothing to do with our bet.

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    Posting the same story from Fusion Ken and Kyle Griffin. You’d think after getting 2 years of your own shoved down your throat by your God Mueller you’d have learned something but nope, you jumped right back in it
    Did you read Mueller’s report?

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    Don’t need to, they have nothing to do with our bet.
    How would you know? You just said you didn’t know who the names were...

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    The most remarkable thing about special counsel Robert Mueller’s 448-page report is how blithely the prosecutor reversed the burden of proof on the issue of obstruction.

    To be sure, President Trump’s conduct outlined on this score isn’t flattering, to put it mildly. For example, the special counsel’s evidence includes indications that the president attempted to induce White House Counsel Don McGahn to fire the special counsel (in June 2017), and then (in January 2018) to deny that the president had made the request.

    Mueller’s report further suggests that the president dangled pardons. He made ingratiating comments about Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn and Michael Cohen when they appeared to be fighting the cases against them (and presumably fighting the prosecutor’s efforts to get them to cooperate) but then turned on Flynn and Cohen when they decided to plead guilty and provide testimony for Mueller.


    On the other hand, there is evidence that cuts sharply against obstruction. The president could have shut down the investigation at any time, but he didn’t. He could have asserted executive privilege to deny the special counsel access to key White House witnesses, such as McGahn. To the contrary, numerous witnesses were made available voluntarily (there was no need to try to subpoena them to the grand jury), and well over a million do ents were disclosed, including voluminous notes of meetings between the president and his White House counsel.

    Most important, the special counsel found that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, and that the president’s frustration wasn’t over fear of guilt — the typical motivation for obstruction — but that the investigation was undermining his ability to govern the country. The existence of such a motive is a strong counter to evidence of a corrupt intent, critical because corrupt intent must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in an obstruction case.

    In his report, Mueller didn’t resolve the issue. If he had been satisfied that there was no obstruction crime, he said, he would have so found. He claimed he wasn’t satisfied. Yet he was also not convinced that there was sufficient proof to charge. Therefore, he made no decision, leaving it to Attorney General William Barr to find that there was no obstruction.

    This is unbecoming behavior for a prosecutor and an outrageous shifting of the burden of proof: The cons utional right of every American to force the government to prove a crime has been committed, rather than to have to prove his or her own innocence.

    This is exactly why prosecutors should never speak publicly about the evidence uncovered in an investigation of someone who isn’t charged. The obligation of the prosecutor is to render a judgment about whether there is enough proof to charge a crime. If there is, the prosecutor indicts; if there is not, the prosecutor remains silent.

    If special counsel Mueller believed there was an obstruction offense, he should have had the courage of his convictions and recommended charging the president. Since he wasn’t convinced there was enough evidence to charge, he should have said he wasn’t recommending charges. Period.

    Anything else was — and is — a smear. Worse than that, it flouts the Cons ution.

    https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/muelle...truction-punt/

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    So you didn’t read it

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    How would you know? You just said you didn’t know who the names were...

    I know what our bet was. Had nothing to do with cases Mueller handed off. Regardless, for you to even think that any of those four people were handed off to other districts for prosecution and we didn’t hear about it is absolutely re ed.

    You’re a liar and welched cause you can’t afford 2 grand. Poor fella.

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    I know what our bet was. Had nothing to do with cases Mueller handed off. Regardless, for you to even think that any of those four people were handed off to other districts for prosecution and we didn’t hear about it is absolutely re ed.

    You’re a liar and welched cause you can’t afford 2 grand. Poor fella.
    There are criminally referred cases. To complete our bet, we will see who the names are. Don’t be a pussy.

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    Btw, the Trump campaign is still under investigation

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    This is blatantly inaccurate

    please stop.

    He found PLENTY of collusion - and PLENTY of it is outlined in the report and it is consistent to all the things Adam Schiff has already laid out in several interviews. All of the collusion was right in front of your eyes - and there is plenty of it.

    Mueller states that - although there was a ton of evidence - he didn't acquire every single element of it to win a case on conspiracy - (and here again - DID BARR - stop him or impede the investigation in any way? - we don't know)

    So Russia wanted to help and did and BENEFITED from this collusion- before and since the election.
    Trump team accepted help, wanted help, and BENEFITED from this collusion.

    That is all in the Mueller report - and there is another ton that was redacted - most redactions were of the collusion/conspiracy/counter-intelligence.
    Plenty yet not enough for even a remote charge

    Turns out that plenty is actually barely

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    Plenty yet not enough for even a remote charge

    Turns out that plenty is actually barely
    is this how low trumpers go now?

    an enemy govt attacked YOUR country and your hero helped them and your response is that it didnt cons ute a legal crime?

    it is like trump ing your mom and your reaction is;

    ”hey- he didnt assrape her - he just raped her conventionally”

    you are pathetic

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    It’s a correct statement but purposely fail to mention no one knew it was Russians setting up the rallies.
    don't have to mention that, truth is truth, ignorance is never a legitimate excuse

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    Not a Trumper. Trumps is one of the biggest pieces of to be elected.
    Funny how most of the Trump s here will go to great lengths to tell everyone how much they don’t like Trump

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    There are criminally referred cases. To complete our bet, we will see who the names are. Don’t be a pussy.
    You’re acting just like Reck did when he welched. What was our bet?

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    is this how low trumpers go now?

    an enemy govt attacked YOUR country and your hero helped them and your response is that it didnt cons ute a legal crime?

    it is like trump ing your mom and your reaction is;

    ”hey- he didnt assrape her - he just raped her conventionally”

    you are pathetic
    You sound like a mental reject or a troll.

    anyone wanting him impeached is a re ed piece os . Not only would thT mean Pence is in power but it would most likely fail as there is little time unt elections. and it would rally his base

    Dumb mothed er. You don't know what's best for you but again you are probably a troll seeking attention

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    You’re acting just like Reck did when he welched. What was our bet?
    do you have a link to the bet?

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    The gang of 8 was offered it by DOJ and Dems rejected it.

    Nadler

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    do you have a link to the bet?

    I looked and my search function was pulling a bunch of random from 2017

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    don't have to mention that, truth is truth, ignorance is never a legitimate excuse
    What’s your excuse for the entire Russian collusion investigation?

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    You sound like a mental reject or a troll. Couldn't care less which you are

    This is my last response to you. I'm not. Trumper. He is a piece of and hopefully will not win in 2020

    But anyone wanting him impeached is a re ed piece os . Not only would thT mean Pence is in power but it would most likely fail as there is little time unt elections. and it would rally his base

    Dumb mothed er. You don't know what's best for you but again you are probably a troll seeking attention
    His base is always rallied and raved. They're maniacs who would follow Trump down a cliff.

    That's not really an issue for impeachment. like you said though, elections are near so this will prove to be a wasted exercise if they choose to do it.

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    The gang of 8 was offered it by DOJ and Dems rejected it.

    Nadler
    They offered a lightly redacted report. Nadler wants it stripped of all. TSA

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    I looked and my search function was pulling a bunch of random from 2017
    i remember dude thought paul ryan and mitch mcconnell were going down as part of this too

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