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2015 (clippers) and 2016 (thunder) are two series that Pop's work was really negative.
agreeing with Nate Duncan
Yeah Nate failed to mention that in that 20 year span he was talking about the Spurs 'won it all' 5 times. He failed to mention that out of 30 teams they won it all 25% of the time. He failed to mention that in that 20 year span, including the playoffs, the Spurs were the most winning team in all team sports including baseball, soccer, football, basketball, and hockey. Nate Duncan is an imbecile. His takes are exceptionally moronic. It's hard to say if he serious, but he seems too stupid to be coy.
Now Pop is the first to give Tim all the credit, but he was there too.
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2015 (clippers) and 2016 (thunder) are two series that Pop's work was really negative.
Tim got old, Tony got old, Manu got old. Pop has gotten way older and but is still coaching. The difference is those guys wanted to win every game all the time all the way to the end of their careers (at least Tim and Manu did). Pop has changed and put too much emphasis on “it’s really not that important”. That’s great for life lessons, but bad for the NBA when you no longer have the big 3 to carry you.
Yes he’s got 5 rings, but he also doesn’t give a anymore. So 5 rings doesn’t excuse his modern nonchalant approach.
Sure let's go with the guy that's been canned twice in the last 6 years...
He is right tho... We HAVE lost more times as a favorite, than won as an underdog... That's not even up for question
If he had gone to Boston and had to play for that idiot Rick Pitino, Duncan might have Zero rings..
How is a 7 seed losing to a 2 seed an upset? Is this a winnable series, sure, but should a 7 seed ever be favored over a 2 seed, no.
No, but all else being equal you should take it.
If the ping pong balls bounced the other way and Tim Duncan didn't come to SA, Pop would have had Zero rings.
If we're doing the whatabout.
Doubt it. Duncan was a transcendent player. My drunk uncle would have won atleast 1 le coaching him.
Pop proved himself as a great coach by changing the way the Spurs played over the different eras and keeping them in le contention. They used to be a low post, grind it out defensive team. They'd win playoff games 79-78.. Then as Tim aged, and the perimeter shooting became more dominant in the league, the Spurs remained good on D but became a high powered ball movement offense. The man adapted his coaching and it worked.. Think about it the Spurs were in the finals in 2013 and 2014 and Tim was way past his prime..
Tim was the man. But he also had consistency and a family environment in SA. It was the perfect fit for his quiet, non attention seeking personality, team first always. Pop was a father figure whom Tim would also do anything for.. I think Tim walks for the Orlando deal if not for Pop..
He's made some adjustments, yes. Also missed a ton of elementary adjustments.
He never has and never will win a Champioship without Duncan.
Well you need great players. Phil Jackson was in coaching exile before the Bulls gave him a shot, and somebody by the name of Jordan accepted him..
The Spurs are obviously not overflowing with talent these days. And this is a 2/7 matchup. Spurs are supposed to lose this series. I think Pop has done one of his better coaching jobs this year. We lose a top 5 player in his prime, and replaced him with maybe a top 25 player. Still in the playoffs with a chance to advance. I think the series will go 7..
IMO, this is what cost us against Memphis in 2011 and OKC in 2016.The most infuriating thing about pop and there's a lot, is his stubbornness not to play rookies just cause he thinks they lack experience. off with that Larry Brown bull , it sucks watching a young athletic more then capable of playing defense player in Lonnie walker rotting on the bench just to play scrubs like Marco and patty just cause they have "corporate knowledge
Funny that Tim decided to stay in San Antonio with Pop for his entire career, despite having the option multiple times of playing for a better coach. So are you guys also saying that Tim was so good that his career overcame his obviously bad decision to keep Pop as his coach?
Orlando was a "you can have your wife and kids fly on the plane" away from racking up Championships with Timmy Dunks. So the legend purportedly is.
Not "oh I want, no I must stay with Pop."
So you think Duncan re-signed multiple times to play for a coach that he himself thought wasn't very good?
No. By the time Gnob was one of the best #2s and Porker was in his prime....along with Bowen, Robert Horry etc Noooooo reason to leave.
No reason to have not run off B2Bs at minimum either. 5-7, something like that.
When Pop retires and the years that will follow is the time we will truly appreciate him. Its coming and there is no escape for this fanbase
So do you think that Duncan himself mistakenly thought Pop was a good coach, or do you think he figured that Ginobili, Parker, etc plus himself was enough talent to overcome Pop's deficiencies?
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