White >>> Murray

[SpurPadre]

Murray's instagram account is better than the Jeckyl version of White, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

He's a ing sop re playing his first NBA playoffs. He shouldn't be depended upon to be the ing saviour of the team, yet he is. It trully is amazing that he even got us to this point. Are you seeing the show we are without him steading everything?

That's all well and good but it's always been laughable that people automatically crowned him as the starting PG over Murray. If you're going to use the age rationale, then you would at least want to see White and Murray battling for the starting gig next preseason instead of crowning the mother er.

[DAF86]

That's all well and good but it's always been laughable that people automatically crowned him as the starting PG over Murray. If you're going to use the age rationale, then you would at least want to see White and Murray battling for the starting gig next preseason instead of crowning the mother er.

I would like to see them starting together next season. That doesn't take away from the fact that White's first season as a starter >>> Murray's first season as a starter.

[SpurPadre]

I would like to see them starting together next season. That doesn't take away from the fact that White's first season as a starter >>> Murray's first season as a starter.

I believe Murray's jumper and 3 ball will be much improved when he comes back but starting both of them stands the risk of having no 3 point shooting whatsoever in our starting five. We can't get away with that in today's league. Murray was named the starter over White for a reason, by the way. White is a super-sub, 6th man until he proves otherwise in training camp and the preseason.

[HarlemHeat37]

Dejounte Murray is a legitimately terrible offensive player..the only thing in his favor is his age..

[DAF86]

I believe Murray's jumper and 3 ball will be much improved when he comes back but starting both of them stands the risk of having no 3 point shooting whatsoever in our starting five. We can't get away with that in today's league. Murray was named the starter over White for a reason, by the way. White is a super-sub, 6th man until he proves otherwise in training camp and the preseason.

Murray averages 6 pts on 40% on the playoffs and yall want to come here and talk smalk about how Murray is better than a guy averaging 20 ppg on 65% shooting?

Seriously, yall better go sit in the corner and wait for next season to see if Murray shows anything of value on the offensive side of the ball before even daring bumping this thread again.

[SpurPadre]

Dejounte Murray is a legitimately terrible offensive player AT THIS POINT..the only thing in his favor is his age..

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[SpurPadre]

Murray averages 6 pts on 40% on the playoffs and yall want to come here and talk smalk about how Murray is better than a guy averaging 20 ppg on 65% shooting?

Seriously, yall better go sit in the corner and wait for next season to see if Murray shows anything of value on the offensive side of the ball before even daring bumping this thread again.

White was 0-10 in a game against a non-playoff team a month ago...yeah, let's outright give him the starter's job that a player was given until he injured himself. GTFO with that bull .

[DAF86]

White was 0-10 in a game against a non-playoff team a month ago...yeah, let's outright give him the starter's job that a player was given until he injured himself. GTFO with that bull .

Yeah, let's go with a game worth of sample size, instead of a full season.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah, let's go with a game worth of sample size, instead of a full season.

I AM going off a full season...the one Murray played last year that convinced Pop to start him over White.

[DAF86]

I AM going off a full season...the one Murray played last year that convinced Pop to start him over White.

Only because of seniority. If White would have been drafted before Murray, he would have been the one starting. Either way, these last two seasons worth of sample size are enough to prove that, so far, White >>> Murray. That's all that matters going into next season.

[SpurPadre]

Only because of seniority. If White would have been drafted before Murray, he would have been the one starting. Either way, these last two seasons worth of sample size are enough to prove that, so far, White >>> Murray. That's all that matters going into next season.

Murray has a higher ceiling than White, is younger, more athletic, a better rebounder, better and more vocal leader, and faster. Murray>White but let's leave it to camp to see who desrves it more instead of crowning either one. I'm willing to be that reasonable.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Only because of seniority. If White would have been drafted before Murray, he would have been the one starting. Either way, these last two seasons worth of sample size are enough to prove that, so far, White >>> Murray. That's all that matters going into next season.

Seniority. Murray is 19 years old. Pop hasn’t given a player this much la ude since Parker

[DAF86]

Murray has a higher ceiling than White, is younger, more athletic, a better rebounder, better and more vocal leader, and faster. Murray>White but let's leave it to camp to see who desrves it more instead of crowning either one. I'm willing to be that reasonable.

Dude, please explain to me how can you think Murray > White by comparing the two seasons each had as a starter?

Outside of rebounding, there isn't a single thing Murray in which Murray rates better than White. Not one.

I could buy the higher ceiling stuff (although I'm sure that's unlikely to be true either), but to say that Murray's season as starter was better than White's is just ... not true. For sakes, on these playoffs White is carrying scrubs while Murray barely saw minutes on last season's POs.

[DAF86]

Seniority. Murray is 19 years old. Pop hasn’t given a player this much la ude since Parker

Seniority within the Spurs system. The same reason why Manu was the one that had to come off the bench of the big three: because he got there last.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Dude, please explain to me how can you think Murray > White by comparing the two seasons each had as a starter?

Outside of rebounding, there isn't a single thing Murray in which Murray rates better than White. Not one.

I could buy the higher ceiling stuff (although I'm sure that's unlikely to be true either), but to say that Murray's season as starter was better than White's is just ... not true. For sakes, on these playoffs White is carrying scrubs while Murray barely saw minutes on last season's POs.

Murray is Fathead 2.0 albeit with a smaller forehead and a little faster footwork. Murray is far more athletic, better rebounder and can penetrate with more effectiveness than White. White may be a better shooter than Murray but he is so indecisive that he can be a liability on offense. The Spurs were pretty much playing 5-4 with white. Probably the reason Pop pulled him

[FkLA]

You know you have no ing argument when you have to resort to bringing up rebounding and athleticism in a discussion about who's the better PG.

[DAF86]

Murray is Fathead 2.0 albeit with a smaller forehead and a little faster footwork. Murray is far more athletic, better rebounder and can penetrate with more effectiveness than White. White may be a better shooter than Murray but he is so indecisive that he can be a liability on offense. The Spurs were pretty much playing 5-4 with white. Probably the reason Pop pulled him

Didn't you see game 3? Didn't you see these entire last two seasons?

White is a beast finishing in the lane, Murray hasn't proved much there besides a soft, erratic floater. Murray still doesn't have the skill nor the muscle to be effective attacking the basket.

I'm too lazy to look for the stats right now but I would be surprised if White doesn't have Murray beaten by a wide margin on pts in the paint and FG efficiency on layups.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

You know you have no ing argument when you have to resort to bringing up rebounding and athleticism in a discussion about who's the better PG.

You know you have no effin argument when your non passing center has more assists than your interim starting PG

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Didn't you see game 3? Didn't you see these entire last two seasons?

White is a beast finishing in the lane, Murray hasn't proved much there besides a soft, erratic floater. Murray still doesn't have the skill nor the muscle to be effective attacking the basket.

I'm too lazy to look for the stats right now but I would be surprised if White doesn't have Murray beaten by a wide margin on pts in the paint and FG efficiency on layups.

Ive watched every Spurs game that’s been on television since 1978.

[DAF86]

Ive watched every Spurs game that’s been on television since 1978.

And yet you still say things like Murray is more effective penetrating and White is fathead 2.0 despite having posted some of the best athletic metrics in all of the draft combine.

[SuperCam]

Spurfan talking about two PGs in the bottom half of league wide starting PGs instead of how to get a top 15 or even top 5 point guard like the team had the last three rings they won..

[TheGreatYacht]

Damn. DAF is starting to get to Chinook and dabom level of player evaluators....

[HarlemHeat37]

Did people forget how bad Dejounte Murray's offense is just because he hasn't played in a minute?

I don't think White has the mentality to be a star, he's way too passive and probably too old to change that, but Murray? He has miles to go just to become a playable offensive piece .

[Robz4000]

Did people forget how bad Dejounte Murray's offense is just because he hasn't played in a minute?

I don't think White has the mentality to be a star, he's way too passive and probably too old to change that, but Murray? He has miles to go just to become a playable offensive piece .

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