I quit, boys

[Budkin]

Shades of TPark TBH

Nothing will ever top TPark’s fat ass quitting.

[HarlemHeat37]

Because you're seeing what you want to see, being results oriented with micro-decisions. You don't lose a game in which you're leading by 19 by 9 just because Pop chose to go with a suspect line-up for a bit. Let's look at the 3 point stats from that game: Spurs: 5-18, Denver: 10-24. 15 point difference. Game 4 home loss: Spurs: 5-17, Denver: 15-31. Tonight: Spurs: 7-24, Denver: 14-33. Absolutely slaughtered from 3 in the losses, but yeah, this series isn't about the Spurs lacking 3 point shooting vs. Denver . It's about Pop and playing Mills and Belli (who admittedly suck) too much. Spurs are outgunned, and no amount of counterfactuals would've changed things.

I get it, it's easier and more cathartic to "blame" individuals after a loss rather than just admitting we're bringing a mid-range knife to a three point gun fight.

Of course it's about 3-point shooting, that's a given, but something that hasn't changed in the NBA(and will never change) is needing to be able to defend to win a le..

The Warriors are back to playing great D after coasting during the RS..the Rockets have been the best defense in the NBA since the All-Star break..the Bucks have been great all year on that end and the Raptors have been on a different level since adding Marc Gasol..

Combining low-volume in 3s, mid-range go-to guys and a rotation full of non-defenders gives them very little room for error..they're fortunate to be playing against a fake 2 seed like Denver or this would have been a sweep..

[emanueldavidginobili]

The Spurs are the 7th seed verse the 2nd seed going back home down 3-2. Stop ing what else did you expect. Did you not watch the regular season?

[gambit1990]

if OP leaves then there'll be less bad takes on here tbh.

[gambit1990]

this is what happened: ST overestimated the spurs after the streak earlier in the season, overestimated the spurs after the streak later in the season, and overestimated the spurs after they went up 2-1.

i never bought into it and it wasn't even hard to see why.

"spurs have a chance against any team that isn't the warriors"
"spurs are making it to the WCF"

[DPG21920]

Of course it's about 3-point shooting, that's a given, but something that hasn't changed in the NBA(and will never change) is needing to be able to defend to win a le..

The Warriors are back to playing great D after coasting during the RS..the Rockets have been the best defense in the NBA since the All-Star break..the Bucks have been great all year on that end and the Raptors have been on a different level since adding Marc Gasol..

Combining low-volume in 3s, mid-range go-to guys and a rotation full of non-defenders gives them very little room for error..they're fortunate to be playing against a fake 2 seed like Denver or this would have been a sweep..

I dont know why people call Denver fake. Yeah, they are streaky but their defense is a lot better than people give credit.

[tmtcsc]

Pop would never call out the refs to the media either. Every other damn coach plays that game. And there's only one way to lose: by not playing

Pop takes out his anger on the media - specifically Tom Orsborn. That's his whipping boy with a mic.

[Kurgan]

All the elite teams(Warriors, Rockets, Bucks, Raptors) are attempting 30+ threes per game. Meanwhile, Spurs are attempting 17 per game. It's insanity to handicap yourself like this. Spurs built a flawed roster around a flawed system that doesn't work in today's NBA.

[midnightpulp]

Of course it's about 3-point shooting, that's a given, but something that hasn't changed in the NBA(and will never change) is needing to be able to defend to win a le..

The Warriors are back to playing great D after coasting during the RS..the Rockets have been the best defense in the NBA since the All-Star break..the Bucks have been great all year on that end and the Raptors have been on a different level since adding Marc Gasol..

Combining low-volume in 3s, mid-range go-to guys and a rotation full of non-defenders gives them very little room for error..they're fortunate to be playing against a fake 2 seed like Denver or this would have been a sweep..

But a great offense is also the best defense in this era. Defending the 3 tires out players faster than defending a plodding midrange/low post team. Spur opponents simply don't exhaust themselves as much defending their offense as Spur players do against a 3 point shooting team. I do agree the Spurs personnel is also defensively deficient from an athleticism/talent perspective. Patty Mills, Belli, DeFrozen, LMA, Gay, never have been great defenders.

[tmtcsc]

I switched to the OKC game. I'm not a fan of Westbrook and his on-court antics but there's no arguing that he plays with his emotions on his sleeve and competes. We don't have a single player on the Spurs who plays with any accountability. None.

[Dex]

Seriously though, FkLA...don't make this kind of post, then try to come back next season and act like you are still a fan or even a moderate supporter of this team.

We are all frustrated by this game. We are all frustrated by this series. We are all frustrated by this season, and by life after Duncan. But we aren't all out here throwing our fandom on the ground for everyone to witness.

You want to quit? Then quit.

But if you are going to do it, you better own it.

[Atl Spur]

We need defenders! Shooting more threes is not the answer.

[DPG21920]

Next season: “Hi I am FkLB - I’m new here! Long time lurker first time poster”

[spursistan]

We need Pop to coach the regular season and somebody else take over in the playoffs.

I would legit take Nate in MacMillan over him if I'm trying to win 50-50 playoffs series..

The fact that 90% of this fanbase is fretting about him in all of the the pre-series previews shows you that he stopped being an asset at this level of compe ion years ago..

[FkLA]

I find it really hard to believe the Spurs should be in control of this series after how ugly Games 4 & 5 were. And Mills and Bellinelli are awful to watch but Lonnie Walker would be even worse. That guy does not look like an NBA player yet even in garbage time. If there is one bench player who has really pissed me off it's Rudy Gay. But then again that was Gay's reputation for years in Memphis and Toronto too so I probably shouldn't be surprised. This team is so lacking in talent with Murray injured and I'm still kind of in shock they won 48 games with that roster.

Yeah, but it's not like his only option was to play Walker in their place. How about just upping the minutes of White/DD/Forbes? Play them 40+ in Game 2 and you go home in complete control. You want to know why most people's only memory of Belli in the 2014 playoffs is that shot he made in the Finals? Because he was only averaging like 5-10 non-garbage minutes per game.

Because you're seeing what you want to see, being results oriented with micro-decisions. You don't lose a game in which you're leading by 19 by 9 just because Pop chose to go with a suspect line-up for a bit. Let's look at the 3 point stats from that game: Spurs: 5-18, Denver: 10-24. 15 point difference. Game 4 home loss: Spurs: 5-17, Denver: 15-31. Tonight: Spurs: 7-24, Denver: 14-33. Absolutely slaughtered from 3 in the losses, but yeah, this series isn't about the Spurs lacking 3 point shooting vs. Denver . It's about Pop and playing Mills and Belli (who admittedly suck) too much. Spurs are outgunned, and no amount of counterfactuals would've changed things.

I get it, it's easier and more cathartic to "blame" individuals after a loss rather than just admitting we're bringing a mid-range knife to a three point gun fight.

Dude, we're talking about the ing Denver Nuggets. You make it sound like a team that uses the 3 point shot heavily will always beat a team like the Spurs. In reality, the Spurs beat Houston (who is the poster child for that style) just a couple of years ago. So yes, players and coaching do matter. Our pussy ass star players and arrogant coach had more to do with this series loss than the system.

[lefty]

Spurs only have 1 good perimeter defender

And he was traded for ddr

[midnightpulp]

this is what happened: ST overestimated the spurs after the streak earlier in the season, overestimated the spurs after the streak later in the season, and overestimated the spurs after they went up 2-1.

i never bought into it and it wasn't even hard to see why.

"spurs have a chance against any team that isn't the warriors"
"spurs are making it to the WCF"

We might finally agree on something after all these years. What were people here expecting with team that is centered around a midrange shooting LMA and Defrozen, with role players consisting of a past his prime Rudy Gay, Bryn Forbes, Patty Mills, Marco Bellinelli, and Jakob Poeltl? At least Derrick White gave us some nice moments.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I dont know why people call Denver fake. Yeah, they are streaky but their defense is a lot better than people give credit.

Steph Curry is streaky but nobody calls the Warriors fake. Gay, maybe, but not fake.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I switched to the OKC game. I'm not a fan of Westbrook and his on-court antics but there's no arguing that he plays with his emotions on his sleeve and competes. We don't have a single player on the Spurs who plays with any accountability. None.

Westbrick is literally this generation's Allen Iverson.

[Big Empty]

😭😞 i feel ur pain. Our star players gave up. No balls. Passive. Scared. Never seen that even pre-Tim Duncan era....well . We got a home game left. Lets see nothin to lose

[DAF86]

Because you're seeing what you want to see, being results oriented with micro-decisions. You don't lose a game in which you're leading by 19 by 9 just because Pop chose to go with a suspect line-up for a bit. Let's look at the 3 point stats from that game: Spurs: 5-18, Denver: 10-24. 15 point difference. Game 4 home loss: Spurs: 5-17, Denver: 15-31. Tonight: Spurs: 7-24, Denver: 14-33. Absolutely slaughtered from 3 in the losses, but yeah, this series isn't about the Spurs lacking 3 point shooting vs. Denver . It's about Pop and playing Mills and Belli (who admittedly suck) too much. Spurs are outgunned, and no amount of counterfactuals would've changed things.

I get it, it's easier and more cathartic to "blame" individuals after a loss rather than just admitting we're bringing a mid-range knife to a three point gun fight.

Dude try watching a game for once and you will notice when those 3's came, how they came and why they came.

It was keeping the foot on the gas for 3 to 6 more minutes and the series would have been over.

Since you aren't watching the games I will give you a hand so you can understand: all went to when we got our 3pt squad into the game. The lineup that shoots more 3's (and more accurately) than any other bench in the league.

[Reck]

Spurs won 2 more games then they thought they would.

Granted, for a minute it looked like they had a shot but Nuggets are the better team. That's it.

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, but it's not like his only option was to play Walker in their place. How about just upping the minutes of White/DD/Forbes? Play them 40+ in Game 2 and you go home in complete control. You want to know why most people's only memory of Belli in the 2014 playoffs is that shot he made in the Finals? Because he was only averaging like 5-10 non-garbage minutes per game

Dude, we're talking about the ing Denver Nuggets. You make it sound like a team that uses the 3 point shot heavily will always beat a team like the Spurs. In reality, the Spurs beat Houston (who is the poster child for that style) just a couple of years ago. So yes, players and coaching do matter. Our pussy ass star players and arrogant coach had more to do with this series loss than the system.

The Spurs team that beat Houston was a lot different roster wise. Danny Green and Leonard being the main perimeter defenders is a pretty big difference. You're also being results oriented. Just because something happens once, doesn't mean it's mathematically sound. A team that doesn't shoot as many 3s as their opponent is at a mathematical disadvantage. Yes, players do matter. Players who can actually shoot a 3 .

Why do you think contending teams today are built they way they are? It's what works. Spurs don't have a system that works.

[Kurgan]

Dude, we're talking about the ing Denver Nuggets. You make it sound like a team that uses the 3 point shot heavily will always beat a team like the Spurs. In reality, the Spurs beat Houston (who is the poster child for that style) just a couple of years ago. So yes, players and coaching do matter. Our pussy ass star players and arrogant coach had more to do with this series loss than the system.

We had a legit superstar back then. We were also more compe ive on the three point front. We attempted 26 threes a game in that series.

The Rox would destroy the current Spurs roster. We're actually fortunate we got the Nugs instead to give us a respectable playoff exit. D'Antoni sweeping the Spurs in massive blowout wins would have been hard to stomach.

[FkLA]

Seriously though, FkLA...don't make this kind of post, then try to come back next season and act like you are still a fan or even a moderate supporter of this team.

We are all frustrated by this game. We are all frustrated by this series. We are all frustrated by this season, and by life after Duncan. But we aren't all out here throwing our fandom on the ground for everyone to witness.

You want to quit? Then quit.

But if you are going to do it, you better own it.

You are cool and I like you but I don't think I've ever seen you say a negative thing about the team or Pop. A fanbase full of complacent/sunshine pumper fans isn't good for the organization.