I quit, boys

[ZeusWillJudge]

I quit boys

Well that explains all the nervous sheep.

See you here tomorrow?

[midnightpulp]

Dude try watching a game for once and you will notice when those 3's came, how they came and why they came.

It was keeping the foot on the gas for 3 to 6 more minutes and the series would have been over.

Since you aren't watching the games I will give you a hand so you can understand: all went to when we got our 3pt squad into the game. The lineup that shoots more 3's (and more accurately) than any other bench.

You sound like it's your first time watching basketball. Defensive breakdowns on the perimeter are going to happen, they happen more so than ever in today's NBA. Just look at some of the score lines we're seeing in "grit and grind" playoff basketball. These defensive breakdowns are especially going to happen with a team who has just an average perimeter defense. If the Spurs matched Denver in game 2 from the 3, it's a win. Why can't the Spurs match Denver (or anybody else in the NBA)? "That's not who they are!" It's who they need to be in the future. When you get smoked from downtown by a difference of 66 points in your losses, the answer is pretty clear what the deficiency is.

[Dennis the Menace]

All the elite teams(Warriors, Rockets, Bucks, Raptors) are attempting 30+ threes per game. Meanwhile, Spurs are attempting 17 per game. It's insanity to handicap yourself like this. Spurs built a flawed roster around a flawed system that doesn't work in today's NBA.

In the post Duncan world, the only thing this franchise can do well is draft and develop.

Coaching and GM’ing needs an enema and be replaced

[gambit1990]

A fanbase full of complacent/sunshine pumper fans isn't good for the organization.

also you: "we're back boys".

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=276941

[DAF86]

You sound like it's your first time watching basketball. Defensive breakdowns on the perimeter are going to happen, they happen more so than ever in today's NBA. Just look at some of the score lines we're seeing in "grit and grind" playoff basketball. These defensive breakdowns are especially going to happen with a team who has just an average perimeter defense. If the Spurs matched Denver in game 2 from the 3, it's a win. Why can't the Spurs match Denver (or anybody else in the NBA)? "That's not who they are!" It's who they need to be in the future. When you get smoked from downtown by a difference of 66 points in your losses, the answer is pretty clear what the deficiency is.

Sure, but that isn't the argument here.

The argument here is that even this extremely flawed Spurs team could have won (actually swept) this series by just keeping the foot on the gas for 3 to 6 more minutes. That's all they needed. Nothing else mattered.

6 more minutes of a non complete incompetent defensive lineup and this would have ended on saturday.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

We lost this series because of Pop and his re ed management of subs utions and timeouts. Otherwise this series probably ends up in a sweep. Pop managed to turn a sweep in our favour into a series loss.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

He should've killed that Mills-Belli duo after they lost the first 19 point lead. But he trotted it out again and lost another 19 point lead. Then the mother er does the same thing in Game 3 and almost lost that game if White didn't go wild. We're now in Game 5 and he's still trotting it out. Who the does that? For what reason other than arrogance and a belief that his rotations are never wrong?

[Reck]

DAF86, That's nonsense.

A sweep, really?

[FkLA]

The Spurs team that beat Houston was a lot different roster wise. Danny Green and Leonard being the main perimeter defenders is a pretty big difference. You're also being results oriented. Just because something happens once, doesn't mean it's mathematically sound. A team that doesn't shoot as many 3s as their opponent is at a mathematical disadvantage. Yes, players do matter. Players who can actually shoot a 3 .

Why do you think contending teams today are built they way they are? It's what works. Spurs don't have a system that works.

You can't just ignore the horrible in series coaching against a weak pretender and just point to the system. It's really that simple.

Nobody has ever argued that you can win with frauds like DeRozan/LMA with this system btw. Just like I'm sure you would never argue that Trae Young's teams will eventually be elite because he jacks up so many threes. My argument was always that it could work because of Nephew's greatness, which I still maintain.

We had a legit superstar back then. We were also more compe ive on the three point front. We attempted 26 threes a game in that series.

The Rox would destroy the current Spurs roster. We're actually fortunate we got the Nugs instead to give us a respectable playoff exit. D'Antoni sweeping the Spurs in massive blowout wins would have been hard to stomach.

Not sure what you are disagreeing with? I literally said players/coaching matter. My only point was that in this series, against a weak pretender, our "stars" being frauds and ty coaching had more to do with the loss than the system.

[KimmyGib]

This poorly built team and outdated system was very close to getting exposed badly this year until the emergence of D. White. IMO Spurs overachieved because of him. This hasn't been a bad series, especially considering how close we were to a first round against GS or HOU. Still think we have a good chance to push this to a game 7.

[HarlemHeat37]

I dont know why people call Denver fake. Yeah, they are streaky but their defense is a lot better than people give credit.

They just aren't a top-level team(considering they were the 2 seed) as we've come to expect in the West(Warriors, Rockets of the last 2 years, Thunder/Spurs of 2016, etc)..they're a 4 seed caliber team IMO..

[midnightpulp]

Sure, but that isn't the argument here.

The argument here is that even this extremely flawed Spurs team could have won (actually swept) this series by just keeping the foot on the gas for 3 to 6 more minutes. That's all they needed. Nothing else mattered.

6 more minutes of a non complete incompetent defensive lineup and this would have ended on saturday.

You can't assume sweep if they held on in game 2. Spurs are supposed to be professional basketball players, so what happened in the following games? If the Spurs were naturally good enough to sweep, as you're implying, why not just win 4-1 then? Maybe it's because they are not good enough and play a flawed style of basketball.

[FkLA]

also you: "we're back boys".

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=276941

It's called a joke.

[DPG21920]

They just aren't a top-level team(considering they were the 2 seed) as we've come to expect in the West(Warriors, Rockets of the last 2 years, Thunder/Spurs of 2016, etc)..they're a 4 seed caliber team IMO..

Ah, I see. Well, sort of. I mean, there just aren’t that level of quality teams in the West this year. So for what the West is, they are good.

But man. Watching every other series, you truly see the difference in superstar players and their ability/effort (Dame, Russ, Kyrie, Kawhi, etc..) and what SA has with Lma/DeRozan that are really good players.

[gambit1990]

It's called a joke.

just ing own it man.

also you:

Its official. We are darkhorse contenders again.

[DPG21920]

I am just shocked at how when watching every other series, SA/DEN stands out BY FAR the most as a regular season type game. It’s just not the same level of effort and fight and intensity from SA. Not even close.

Forget whether you play well or not, there is no one with that clear burning compe ive fire that I have seen and it’s jarring. Just an observation.

[FkLA]

just ing own it man.

also you:

Pretty sure that's just called being a fan not a sunshine pumper.

[DAF86]

DAF86, That's nonsense.

A sweep, really?

Game 1 won
Game 3 won
Game 2 should have been won

That's a 3-0 lead right there. The smart reasoning is that after a 3-0 lead with the Spurs with confidence and the Nuggets without it, and playing on San Antonio, the Spurs should have won game 4.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ah, I see. Well, sort of. I mean, there just aren’t that level of quality teams in the West this year. So for what the West is, they are good.

But man. Watching every other series, you truly see the difference in superstar players and their ability/effort (Dame, Russ, Kyrie, Kawhi, etc..) and what SA has with Lma/DeRozan that are really good players.

Yep, although Aldridge could at least do it in the past for a game or 2.. maybe the load from last season took a toll on him..

[DAF86]

Ah, I see. Well, sort of. I mean, there just aren’t that level of quality teams in the West this year. So for what the West is, they are good.

But man. Watching every other series, you truly see the difference in superstar players and their ability/effort (Dame, Russ, Kyrie, Kawhi, etc..) and what SA has with Lma/DeRozan that are really good players.

One could say it isn't winning basketball, tbh.

[FkLA]

I am just shocked at how when watching every other series, SA/DEN stands out BY FAR the most as a regular season type game. It’s just not the same level of effort and fight and intensity from SA. Not even close.

Forget whether you play well or not, there is no one with that clear burning compe ive fire that I have seen and it’s jarring. Just an observation.

I agree. LMA, DD, and Jokic don't have that fire. White doesn't have that top tier talent. J. Murray is just a y fraud.

[DPG21920]

Like when DeRozan and LMA watch these other series do they not go “man, that looks intense”? They are so nonchalant about everything and have not found that other gear you normally see (and have seen by every other team) in the playoffs

[Nathan89]

Don't worry because Murray is going to help our 3pt shooting significantly.

[Arcadian]

Let's see how they respond in game 6. If this happens again, then you can quit.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I am just shocked at how when watching every other series, SA/DEN stands out BY FAR the most as a regular season type game. It’s just not the same level of effort and fight and intensity from SA. Not even close.

Forget whether you play well or not, there is no one with that clear burning compe ive fire that I have seen and it’s jarring. Just an observation.

Just an accurate one.

Reminder that guys like Lamaar and Demar came into the season expecting DEJOUNTE to be the on-court and mental/emotional leader.

These ing 10-year vets wanted the buck to stop with a little kid, rather than themselves. Meanwhile Dejounte was laughing at them for getting beat off the court.

That tells all of us everything there is to know about our team's mentality.

No winners.