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We just had a player that won a chip here, then went to the WCF and the following year invented reasons to leave.. So if you need a reason, you find one.
It's not even as favorites because a lot of those series are obviously debatable (I presume he's referring to the odds makers). It's coin flip series, often ones they were either up 2-1 with game 4 at home ('16 vs Thunder, '15 vs Clippers, '13 vs Heat, though this was the 2-3-2 format and it's obviously extremely difficult to beat teams of that caliber 3 straight) or up 2-0 ('12 vs Thunder, '04 vs Lakers).
They've definitely either collapsed or at the very least let winnable series slip through their fingers (throw in '06 vs Mavs, '11 vs Grizzlies) plenty of times.
When they've won, it's mostly because they were clearly better than the opposition.
We just had a player that won a chip here, then went to the WCF and the following year invented reasons to leave.. So if you need a reason, you find one.
Never have had closure on that imo.
Site owner said he might be able to reveal (from reliable sauces) of what really came down.
Didn't happen.
Regardless, the way Nephew left was very uncool.
At to the pure and innocent PATFO and medical team, unknown. Rather unrevealed and may never be.
Haha that was my tweet that triggered his ing ass. And if you listen to his last podcast he was complaining about people continuing to DM him killing him for it. that guy.
GO SPURS GO
Summer 2000 was Tim Dunks Orlando near sign.
I'm not familiar with exactly when he signed future Spurs new contracts or extensions.
But yes assuming the summer 2000 contract was at least 3 years length, plenty of time to have GNob, Prime Porker etc on board and secured the 2003 Championship. So of course Tim was staying after that.
Lazy sports writing... plus millennials absorb shorter tweets even if they are inaccurate - the modern reporting MO.That guy's definition of "favorites" is just based on having HCA
The Spurs could've still challenged them a bit more if Derek Anderson (their number two scorer that year) hadn't been bush-leagued out of the playoffs by Juwan effin' Howard.
That series was a coin-flip. The Derek Fisher shot was a series changer. Hedo Turkoglu laid an egg.
Mavs got ridiculous help from the refs. You couldn't breathe on Dirk. Duncan meanwhile gets man-handled by Erick Dampier in the final play of regulation in Game 7 and the zebras swallowed their whistles.2006 - I think it's fair to say that the Spurs were favorites here. Mavs were talented, but unproven, and the Spurs should have won. Pop's idea of switching the PnR (leading to Tony/Finley guarding Dirk) was beyond assenine. He definitely deserves some blame here, but at the same time, the Spurs were 2 Manu blunders away from a series win (he turned it over at the end of game 3, then there's the *sigh* foul on Dirk in game 7).
Ummm... Manu, who had a phenomenal year that season, making his second all-star appearance played the playoffs with a fracture on his shooting arm. It's an almost insurmountable hurdle to expect the team to play at the same level without their creative motor.
The Thunderrefs got their nickname from the inexcusable calls being made in this series. It's very clear that the league wanted a Thunder / Heat Finals that year and they got it.
I kind of agree that this series was winnable. We definitely weren't the clear favorite though and so his point is revisionist history at its finest.2015 - how the were we the favorites? We were the 7th seed, with a banged up Tony, banged up Manu, and unproven Kawhi. Wtf?
Game deciding officiating calls ALL went the Thunderref's way. Dion Waiters fouled Manu on the inbounds (no call). Danny Green was tripped by Steven Adams into Durant (foul on Danny Green). Kawhi deliberately fouled Westbrook to stop the clock (no whistle) instead he is given an and-one. The Spurs WERE the better team and the officials decided to intervene on the Thunder's behalf.
Spurs were definitely, definitely not the "favorites" in 2001 against a prime Shaq and young Kobe Bryant.
And, wow the almost always higher seed Spurs (during the Duncan era) have lost to lower seeds throughout their history. What a take.......
I only put 2011, 2013 and 2015 sole on Pop. His lack of adjustments and stubbornness definitely cost and negatively effected the outcomes of those three series. But, most other series it was a combination of "things" (poor play of stars/role players, bad luck and Pop's coaching) that led to San Antonio losing. And the opponent (Kobe, Dirk, LeBron, Durant, etc,) deserves a lion's share of the credit too.
Nah, let's just be whiny es and blame the best coach in team history (and top 3 - 5 all - time).....
Mike Malone is a good, up - and - coming coach, idiot. He's basically gotten a bunch of second tier players (meaning no superstar) to play way, way over their heads. He's been highly touted for a while now in NBA circles.....Losing and getting out-coached in playoffs series (4 with HCA) by these dudes: Avery Johnson, Lionel Holllins, Scottie Brooks, Billy Donovan,Mike Malone..
Easy answer, Pop is a top all - time great coach, first - ballot HOF'er and the best coach in Spurs history.
And nothing you whine, complain or about is changing those facts.....
Saying Pop had bad luck sometimes is really a cop out. The thing is luck can work for you as it did for PJ many times. PJ always said you have to create your own luck. Pop on the other hand would do stuff that didn't allow luck to work in his favor like sitting TD at the end of game 6. Pop lacks the killer instinct and coaches scared at times. PJ was the exact opposite and had the killer instinct and incredible confidence. Think about it. If the coach is scared how can he project confidence to his players so they play confidently. As a result I think the Spurs haven't done as well as they should have in more evenly matched playoff series.
2001 Spurs would've been destroyed with Derek Anderson too. Anderson wasn't THAT good, and David got completely manhandled in that series by Shaq. That series was Tim Duncan vs Shaq and Kobe at their absolute peak as a duo. No chance.
2004 Hedo choked, yes, but the entire team did. Tony disappeared after game 2, Timmy wasn't nearly aggressive enough in games 4 and 6, and Manu was too inconsistent. A lot of that series loss, imo, was pop not having an answer for Phil packing the paint. Just kept running the same and it didn't work.
2006 - I agree, the officiating in that series was very suspect. That series came down to a few bounces and missed calls. It was infuriating watching Pop switch those screens with Dirk. Still the best playoff series I've ever seen. At the end of the day, their role players outplayed ours. I'll never forget getting butchered by Jason Terry in game 4... -_-
2011 - Manu was still our best player that series. The Spurs lost because they couldn't guard their shadows and Timmy was playing on a flat tire.
Yeah Derek wasn't that great. But during the 4 Regular Season matchups that season Derek managed to play Kobe to a standstill TWICE. In other words, you are severely downplaying the complete dropoff in athleticism that the Spurs suffered as a result of his absence. Terry Porter on his last legs was seen trying to guard a prime Kobe instead. The point was we weren't the favorites in that series either.
My point in 2011 was to reflect on the fact that the Spurs playing with a severely hobbled star WAS a factor. He missed the entirety of Game 1 for crying out loud (which the Spurs lost). The Grizzlies meanwhile had the 2nd best post-all-star record in the league that season. They were not a traditional 8th seed. I still contend that if the Spurs had been complete they don't lose that series.
2015: we were the defending champs and had the lower seed due to one loss at the end of the season against the Pelicans. We also had a lot of injuries and went on a 20-game winning streak in march. Being a finals MVP for locking down prime LeBron is not really unproven either.
2016: we were the clear cut 2nd best team in the NBA and had the most stacked Spurs team ever with the best regular season record ever.
Spurs were favorites both years
Pop is the master at destroying players confidence and having them scared to shoot. Take Kyle Anderson for example. He holds some players back by not letting them do certain things they are actually capable of doing. Like Dedmon having a jump shot/3-point shot.
Pop is the best at giving up an easy sweep and letting the lesser team move on in the playoffs
I do not understand the senseless batting on a spur legend. If Pop were as bad as people claim, he already would have been fired.
Shame on anyone who joins the Bash-Train.
That’s why he developed “it’s just basketball” as a defense mechanism.
How many times did he got backdoor swept or lost a series from 2-1 lead?
IMO, Duncan underachieved because of Pop.
Pop is 1-5 when down 3-2 in a Playoff series. Talk about adjustments
That's another way to look at it.
So your basketball knowledge is > than Larry Brown and Pop?The most infuriating thing about pop and there's a lot, is his stubbornness not to play rookies just cause he thinks they lack experience. off with that Larry Brown bull , it sucks watching a young athletic more then capable of playing defense player in Lonnie walker rotting on the bench just to play scrubs like Marco and patty just cause they have "corporate knowledge
Nope just not a stubborn asshole like them, remember when they played scrubs like Richard Jefferson and Stephon Marbury over LeBron and Dwade on the disgraceful 04 Olympic team. Pop still hasn't learned from that.So your basketball knowledge is > than Larry Brown and Pop?
He is a stubborn asshole, can't defend thatNope just not a stubborn asshole like them, remember when they played scrubs like Richard Jefferson and Stephon Marbury over LeBron and Dwade on the disgraceful 04 Olympic team. Pop still hasn't learned from that.
Pop is a great recruiter and great at getting the most out of his guys. He was also the mastermind behind one of the most beautiful offenses ever in 2014. That said, he is mediocre when it comes to in-game and between game adjustments in the playoffs and has routinely been exposed in that regard.
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