Too many isolation plays to start every possession. Not enough movement and touches to get a rhythm for anyone. The derozan bashing can get annoying but this series has completely justified it. Tries to play like kobe but without any killer instinct and half the talent.
There's only one summary: When your best player in a series is Poetl you need to tank and tank quick, fast and in a hurry. The IQ and talent level of this team is in an all time low.
People easily forget that Vegas had us missing the playoffs. Pop remains the G.O.A.T. coach but as POBO and overseer he has regressed.
Spurs came out with no motor at all. This team is not good at facing adversity. Again the bench was a complete no show. Pretty embarrassing stuff. Seems like these guys are just content with making the playoffs.
Jakob Poeltl looks really good out there. His mobility is really shocking. I’m not sure how he got credited with 0 blocks I know for sure he had at least two.
DDR going full hero mode is so painful to watch. Sprints to the baseline post up and takes a fade away jump shot behind the backboard with like 19 seconds on the shot clock. He shot multiple times early in the shot clock contested jump shots.
I hope DJ and LW take every second of Mills and Marcos playing time next year. All those long offensive rebounds the Spurs give up DJ goes and gets those types of rebounds he goes and gets it and doesn’t wait for it to come to him. He has a huge motor which this team desperately needs. Even Derrick doesn’t have one he has a lackadaisical way to him at times.
Derrick White looked out of sorts and shook for the majority of the game. He honestly looks tired out there, running into Jokic every time down the court on P&Rs will probably do that. Also had zero confidence in taking any type of jump shot. For the Spurs to win he needs to out play Murray and that hasn’t happened the last two games.
Yes, because a year in Austin was so terrible for Murray and White. Good call.Thankfully, Splitter's low pain threshold didn't shorten his NBA career. Still going strongUh oh, my dude timvp showing the cracks in the armor.
The Splitter comment doesn't make any sense since Pop didn't not play Tiago in the Memphis series because he was thinking of his long-term NBA career, like what? You're better than that.
To say that Pop didn't do an adequate job of at least getting Lonnie ready to play some playoff rotation minutes in case Beli or Mills the bed (What a shock!) is an understatement. He's done it in years' past with Oberto, Tiago, CoJo, Murray, and DWhite.....
Like, this isn't new at all. Many examples of Pop suckers saying ________ isn't ready, he needs another year. Those on the other side saying he might be needed in the playoffs, Pop should find him some minutes....
And the former doesn't come along to the other side until the team is facing elimination
Demar and LMA are 10 year veterans who have no excuses, but anybody surprised by their lack of fight/leadership hasn't been paying attention....Also unfortunate is I don't think the Spurs have been embarrassed enough to the casual fan for Pop to want to retire....Hopefully that changes though and he decides to hang them up in the offseason....
Really hope that guys like Mills, Beli, and Gay continue to the bed in Game 6. The FO needs to see what they have those with those guys and do their best to cut ties with them. Fatty being moved is of course wishful thinking but something where his minutes are cut drastically....
Only silver lining from the series loss is that I think it'll be good for Derrick in the long-term.
Denver made an adjustment to take him out of the game. Instead of trusting his jumper, he's forced it inside where they are waiting for him.
DWhite is the future, he's going to have to make a big leap in his game this summer because he needs to consistently be the best or 2nd best player on this team come next year or they'll be looking at another 1st round exit ceiling.....
really depressing. these guys look gutless and helpless. get rid of everyone except becky and poeltl haha.
Yup lol
The Splitter comment doesn't make any sense since Pop didn't not play Tiago in the Memphis series because he was thinking of his long-term NBA career, like what? You're better than that.
To say that Pop didn't do an adequate job of at least getting Lonnie ready to play some playoff rotation minutes in case Beli or Mills the bed (What a shock!) is an understatement. He's done it in years' past with Oberto, Tiago, CoJo, Murray, and DWhite.....
Like, this isn't new at all. Many examples of Pop suckers saying ________ isn't ready, he needs another year. Those on the other side saying he might be needed in the playoffs, Pop should find him some minutes....
And the former doesn't come along to the other side until the team is facing elimination
I really wanted to see your grades on Patty today. He was routinely abused by whoever he guarded and still can’t make shots or penetrate the defense... But when your write up started by saying he flexed his veteran moxie, I was like wtf?!? But then you hit me with the “just kidding”. 🤣🤣🤣 I died. Lol. Well played sir. 🤙🏽🤙🏽
PATF
Well that game should put to rest all the arguments about needing to lean on the bench even more.
DeRozan went looking for whistles early in the game, didn't get them, and he was over. He didn't take plays off - he took a few plays on. Mostly he gave up, a lot like Harden gave up against the Spurs a couple of years ago. Personally, I think that DeRozan folding was responsible for the rest of the collapse. I'll spare the cheesy metaphors, but the Spurs only chance was in playing as a team, and they were playing 4 on 5 after about midway through the first quarter. And if you go back and look, it was exactly about DeRozan not getting whistles he thought he earned. He quit.
The bench sucked. Pop sucked. But DeRozan started his vacation early.
Thanks Timvp. Pop F for not making any adjustments. As you said, the same defense especially on Murray and Jokic. The same 2nd unit and playing more minutes too. Blazers was down 15 points in the last 2 minutes and won. Spurs down 12 points in game 4 with still a lot of 4th quarter to play, and he pulled Aldridge. Lillard played the whole game because it was crucial not to send it back to OKC to win game 6 and possibly game 7. Pop doesn’t seem to have the urgency, but instead looking pass this series as “education” for our young guys. I get it, but Spurs are still on this fight and still very much winnable. Why not insert Lonnie instead of Beli who’s not playing well? It seems Nuggets make their run on Mills/Beli/Bertans line up. Let Lonnie go to the rim and get foul. Why not play our starters more minutes? Aldridge cannot settle for jump shots. He needs to drive in the middle on the catch and not wait for double team. White needs to start attacking the rim. I expect Spurs to win by 30 or more and send doubt to their psyche. Right now Nuggets are playing very confident and need to be shook and carry to game 7 for a chance to win. GSG!
Is it me or does LaMarcus miss too many easy shots?
I think pop knows lamarcus and DeRozan are career losers and isn't interested in coaching them. Like I would tell DeRozan, no more stwpvacks you do layups, assists, or 3 ball. I doubt pop wants him to do ty iso but can't stop him. Same with lamarcus.
Overall the Spurs don't have the better players or better team. These 19 pt leads are nothing against good teams and we had our chances but failed to score or stop them. The Spurs are who we think they are.
Lamarcus could be the best player in the series, but he doesn't want it/ gets pushed off his game. Deozan is the same but even worse. White needs conditioning. Everyone else sucks now
Absolutely pathetic outing by the Spurs. And it's not even about a loss or their bad playing. The most embarrassing thing was that they played like it was December game or something. No fight after a loss. Unacceptable.
Also how come Jakob was there to rescue better players? Crazy. Defense was pretty bad and that was what I was talking about before the season. No players that can play quality D. They can put up a team effort on D above decent level but when Denver can make iso plays it's done. All those skipping screens were making big holes in Spurs defense.
Overall it looks over as Denver are physically prepared better and will presure Spurs big next game. Not that San Antonio can't respond but we do need some effort!
Marco as bad as he is on D gives nothing on O. Horrible. And he is suppose to kill opponents with his shooting.
Where is davis tbh?
Rudy? Guy just talks tough but when it comes to playing he is lost. Denver can easily disrupt his dribble and cause turnover or make Spurs play worse.
White needs to adjust. Can he? Or he will pay for his lack of experience? /even though we see less experience players playing well/
Overall we do need everybody to step up and Jakob continue with his playing
Well he was sure as interested in bringing them here. It doesn't matter if some of the people here are just now figuring it out. He gets paid millions to evaluate players, and he's supposed to be the GOAT. If you believe what you just said, you have to lay a big share of it at Pop's feet.
CIA Pop, letting the Nuggz kids feast in their obvious blowout win, only to come back with wholesale changes in game 6. Right? Right?
right
100% with the Tiago vs Memphis dilemma
funny that poeltl is turning into the best part of the leonard trade to this point (pending on what the spurs get out of the 29th pick).
If you remember correctly, Pop's issue with Splitter back then was he was injury prone and he had a low pain threshold. You don't remember all those complaints by Pop saying how Splitter was "injured" when he was signed, "injured" again in training camp and then "injured" yet again in the regular season right after was given a steady spot in the rotation? Turned out, that low pain threshold haunted his career and Splitter was forced to retire at 28 or whatever it was.
And I know you are a big Splitter fan but that's a strange horse to tie your whataboutery wagon to in this argument, tbh. It's not like Splitter ended up being a playoff assassin once given a chance. The very next season, he played a key role in the Spurs getting backdoor swept by the Thunder after they started fouling him on purpose and he couldn't hit a free throw. On top of that, the Thunder put Fisher on Splitter and Splitter couldn't score in the paint against the chubby point guard
Then the next season, Splitter became unplayable against the Heat.
And once Splitter was freed from meanie Pop, what did he do? Nothing. No coach ever got him to play again as he sat out with a variety of vague injuries. It's not like Splitter went on and became Kevin McHale once freed from Pop's shackles
Not to argue against myself but the player that you and the original poster I quoted should have been pointed to was George Hill. Pop benched Hill just because he was a rookie -- and went on record stating so. Saying Pop should have played Hill was a valid criticism ... one that I said was a mistake at the time and still looks like a mistake in retrospect.
Meh, there's always a young player somewhere in the system that complainers can point to as the ship is sinking as being the savior who wasn't given a chance. Any season in which the Spurs don't win a championship, there's always the complaints that Wunderkind X didn't get a shot.
And, honestly, it's not just Spurs fans. It's all NBA fanbases. They all do the same thing.
So you think rookie Cory Joseph would have made a difference? Did you watch that guy play?
Seriously though, honest question, do you put any stock into San Antonio's ability to develop players or do you think they are such amazing drafters that all their players are ready to go from Day 1? I mean, it has to be one or the other. Personally, I think they draft well but they also develop well. And that development usually means a season in the G-League so the young player can get adjusted to the professional lifestyle, learn the system and lead a team without the full blown NBA pressures right out of the gates.
Speaking of Walker specifically, I watched quite a few of his Austin games this year and he never looked ready. He was favoring his knee for a lot of the season and even when he stopped favoring it as much, his numbers were never too impressive and the team didn't respond to his play.
Still a good prospect but a savior for this year he is not.
To be fair, DeRozan was pretty good the first four games. Overall, when he's not in Frustrated Emo Mode, he's a good player. Unfortunately, foul calls go down in the playoffs so it only makes sense that DeRozan will be frustrated more often in the postseason...
He did look tired at times, unfortunately.
Hopefully he can bounce back for two more games, at least.
I wish I could say I disagree...
Spurs made that little run late, and then Jokic casually flicked in back-to-back 3s. The quit was visible...even before then.
The mighty Nuggets made the Spurs look like a pre-season squad.
Cosign. Ddr whining on the floor about a missed call while the rest of teammates got pumped for Jacobs and1. That did it for me. As a vet and supposed leader he sets the wrong kind of example.
Why doesn't Derozan ever get any calls? And we wonder why he shoots ing fadeaway. Because when he drives snd gets hacked, nothing happens.
That isn't to say "it's all the refs' fault." He needs to play better. But still, why no calls?
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