You have 31pts to assemble a Spurs team to dethrone the Warriors from Spurs teams 99-Present

[Down Under]

Is prime Kawhi 2017 when he was wreaking havoc defensively or now when he's coasting till the last quarter but taking a bigger load offensively?

[paperboy77]

Godeln State in 5 against the 05 team, tbh

Not if they played in 05

[Rummpd]

STARTERS (20)

C - 2014 Tim Duncan (6) - Still dominant on defense, elite rim protector, smartest NBA player ever and can take over in the post on offense if given a mismatch.

PF - 2005 Robert Horry (2) - Such a versatile option who can hold his own on defense when switched in the P&R. Stretch 4 on offense with skills and CLUTCH.

SF - 2014 Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard (6) - Kevin Durant stopper. Could switch on to Thompson or Curry if necessary. Does it all on offense.

SG - Peak 2003-05 Bruce Bowen (4) - Klay Thompson stopper. Could switch on to Durant or Curry if necessary. Stays in the corner mostly on offense.

PG - 2010-2011 George Hill (2) - Long arms and plenty of length against Curry in man coverage. Always a very solid defender. Can dribble drive or pull up.

That's a ridiculous amount of defense and size to handle Curry, Thompson, Durant, and enough size and athleticism to stretch them inside and outside.

Size A
Interior Defense A+
Perimeter Defense A++
Rebounding A
Post/Inside Scoring B
Shooting A
Passing B+
Ball handling/Driving B


BENCH (11)

6 - SG/PG - Peak 2005 Manu Ginobili (6) - Greatest 6th Man in NBA history; can spell either Hill or Bowen when more offense is needed without losing too much defense. Takes over ball games, clutch, and great at the FT line. Would likely replace Hill late in close games, or possibly Horry if we needed to go small.

7 - SG/SF/PG - 2007 Brent Barry (2) - Also a no-brainer for the value. Can shoot lights out (45% from 3), handle the ball, is quick, a playmaker, and holds his own on defense. Excellent option to have on the floor late in games (as opposed to say, Bowen) if you need FT shooting. Worked incredibly well with Manu.

8 - SF/PF - 2011 Richard Jefferson (1) - While not an adequate starter and inconsistent on defense, this is a no-brainer. 44% from three, including over 50% from the corner. Can drive, dish, and finish adequately. Would be a steal off the bench. Likely an offense/defense subs ution for Bowen.

9 - C - 2004-2005 Rasho Nesterovic (1) - The price of taking Brent Barry over a cheaper player means settling for Rasho over Nazr Mohammed, the superior rim protector. However, Rasho held his own in the paint on defense, though not the elite blocker Nazr was, Rasho could rebound, block a few shots and also finish both strong or with the soft touch in the paint on offense plus hit a midrange shot if necessary (unlike Nazr).

10 - SG/PG - 2011-2012 Gary Neal (1) - A tough call between Neal, Joseph and 2003 Speedy Claxton, with the decision boiling down to being able to ensure you score enough points to keep up with GSW in case they get streaky even in spite of our elite defense. Neal wouldn't play more than 5-10 mpg, but would be on the floor if we needed a "spark". He's just as good as Patty Mills ever was and taller and could even draw a few charges despite being a net defensive liability (usually). 42% 3-point shooter, and could score in other ways as well. You just don't want him handling the ball up the court, but we'd have plenty of other players to manage that on our roster/bench.


= TOTAL (31)

Hard to argue with this team now can we get another coach perhaps? Sick of Pop

[blizz]

People leaving DRob off any team are stupid.

[RC_Drunkford]

Prime Robinson and prime Kawhi are obviously best suited to take them down, but you'll need great team defense and be able to switch the pick & roll. A strong bench will also help you since the Dubs bench is trash. So I'm looking for good value deals before making the team top heavy. I'd go with:



14 Duncan / Rasho (7 pts)

Duncan had the same per 36 stats his whole career so the drop off is not that significant from picking prime Duncan and you save 4 pts. Center is also the Dubs weakest position


Horry/ Gay (3 pts)

good enough to give Draymond a headache, switch on the pick & roll and also 2 clutch players. Rudy off the bench would get you enough buckets to make a run and Horry stretches the floor.


Finals MVP Kawhi/RJ (7 pts)

Finals MVP Kawhi locked down LeBron and averaged 18 pts, again not a big drop off from prime Kawhi. It's enough to make life tough for KD. RJ off the bench was good against the Dubs on his last legs when he was with the Cavs, Spurs RJ was better than that version.


Prime Bowen / 14 Manu (8pts)

Prime Bowen would lock Steph up, can step under his or KD's ankles and shoots well from 3. No brainer for 4 points that's great value. 14 Manu ain't prime Manu, but again not a huge drop off and would feast on the Dubs bench. 41 year old Manu gave them problems in the playoffs, so 14 Manu would be even more trouble.


14 Parker/ White (6 pts)

14 Parker is not far off from prime Parker, so again good value. He will make Steph tired and once Steph rolls his ankle cause Bruce stepped under him, TP can attack that ankle with his quickness like he did in 13. You can hide him on Draymond on D. White off the bench gives you a good option if you need stops and again, should give washed up Livingston a run for his money


this team can also go small by inserting different combinations of Manu/White/RJ/Gay with the starters

[TDMVPDPOY]

notice most of the teams...no enrique?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Hard to argue with this team now can we get another coach perhaps? Sick of Pop

If you include Mid 2000s Popovich then we're fine tbh.

[GreekSpursfan]

notice most of the teams...no enrique?

Against the Warriors you need defense coming out of your ears, its not a knock against TP as a player tbh, it happens.

[phxspurfan]

and once Steph rolls his ankle cause Bruce stepped under him

I like where your head is at

[MB20]

Peak Robinson 10 / Rasho 1
2014 Duncan 6 / Horry 2
Peak Bowen 4 / Peak Danny 4
Barry 1 / Kerr 1
Avery 1 / Speedy 1

All Champs, playoffs tested

[Arcadian]

I'll definitely take Peak Duncan over Peak Robinson. Dave was known for being soft in the paint and a playoff choker. Tim, on the other hand, elevated his game for the playoffs consistently. Golden State can hardly contain Montrezl Harrell in the paint, so what the are they going to do about Duncan?

I would agree that collectively (Peak Robinson + 2014 Duncan) > (Peak Duncan + 2003 Robinson) ...but that only speaks to the decline of 03 Dave.

[monty4329]

This is a very cruel thread....

[spurraider21]

I'll definitely take Peak Duncan over Peak Robinson. Dave was known for being soft in the paint and a playoff choker. Tim, on the other hand, elevated his game for the playoffs consistently. Golden State can hardly contain Montrezl Harrell in the paint, so what the are they going to do about Duncan?

I would agree that collectively (Peak Robinson + 2014 Duncan) > (Peak Duncan + 2003 Robinson) ...but that only speaks to the decline of 03 Dave.

no matter sow soft in the paint you consider robinson, if the warriors cant contain harrell, robinson would eat.

[apalisoc_9]

I'll definitely take Peak Duncan over Peak Robinson. Dave was known for being soft in the paint and a playoff choker. Tim, on the other hand, elevated his game for the playoffs consistently. Golden State can hardly contain Montrezl Harrell in the paint, so what the are they going to do about Duncan?

I would agree that collectively (Peak Robinson + 2014 Duncan) > (Peak Duncan + 2003 Robinson) ...but that only speaks to the decline of 03 Dave.

You dont need both.

I think you can allocate 11 points for center againt gsw and you should be fine.

Peak TD - Rasho
FMVP Kawhi - Richard Jefferson
2017 Danny - Brent Barry
Peak Manu - Derrick White
2014 Parker - Speedy

Thats a 60+ win team.

The main concerns here are 2014 Parker, but you have Brent and White off the bench. Also player 8-10 is suspect, but theyll play 6-8 max and speedy and Rasho are both competent players. is decent if his role is limited and playing limited minutes

Manu Can slide into the PG role if TP is having a bad game and you can get a competent player like Brent or Even white to make up for it.

[BWS-1994]

When is Peak Robinson? How much would 99 Robinson be worth here?

[RC_Drunkford]

I just think peak Bruce Bowen should be a lock. Just to destroy all the ankles. I mean every year people wish for a Warriors injuy. With Bruce you get them injured, can lock one of them down, get in their head and get them ejected and he can shoot the open 3. All that for 4 Points? You gotta take that

[apalisoc_9]

I just think peak Bruce Bowen should be a lock. Just to destroy all the ankles. I mean every year people wish for a Warriors injuy. With Bruce you get them injured, can lock one of them down, get in their head and get them ejected and he can shoot the open 3. All that for 4 Points? You gotta take that

He will be suspended

[RC_Drunkford]

He will be suspended

I'll take a Bruce Bowen suspension if it means KD or Steph are injured for the rest of the series

[Nivek_ogre]

Peak Robinson was from 91- 96. Is that the player available? If so then he s all over the warriors. And that nonsense about choking in the playoffs. When Avery Johnson and Vinny del negro are your backcourt then you are over achieving by getting out of the first round.

[Brazil]

Not sure why anybody would not start with Peak Duncan.. I do love some David but come on.

[Rummpd]

This is a nice thread thanks for starting. Personally give me any years of Robinson, Duncan and Manu and I take a lot of whatevers to fill out. Kerr and Murray would be two I would target.

[apalisoc_9]

Not sure why anybody would not start with Peak Duncan.. I do love some David but come on.

Been saying the same thing.

Peak Duncan
FMVP Kawhi
2014 Tony
2014 Manu
2017 Danny
White

And a bunch of 1 points

[apalisoc_9]

But the 10 points for the big superstars really limit your bench options.

[sasaint]

Intresting. People picking robinson over peak timmy. Peak timmy was quick and ahtletic and was an absolute champions tbh.

But so was Robinson. Peak Robinson vs. Peak Timmy is a push/personal preference to me.

[sasaint]

C: 2003 Robinson/2014 Timmy (12 pts)
PF: Robert Horry/Davis Bertans (3 pts)
SF: Peak Danny/Sean Elliott (8 pts)
SG: Brent Barry/Peak Patty (4 pts)
PG: George Hill/Derrick White (4 pts)

Not sure who would start or what the rotations would be. It would be a luxury to have either Peak David or Peak Timmy, but even 2003 David and 2014 Timmy would feast on the Dubs' bigs. I am happy mixing and matching all 4 bigs depending on the Dub's team on the floor and also happy with mixing and matching Peak Danny/Sean Elliott/Brent Barry. I really wanted a Peak Manu or Peak Tony, but I didn't like the dropoff for their backups, so I opted for what I think is a balanced committee approach. Pre-shoulder injury Patty was a great spark, and would have been great to have this season.

One of the best threads of this season. I don't know how long it took you to figure this out, but thanks for the brain-teaser. It was amazing to see what a difference 1 point makes, either way.