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    The separation didn't happen because Joker was unstoppable. Finally, Spurs got the break when he went to the bench beginning of 4th..
    Yes but he has a point that without making threes there was no separation. You can't win games consistently without making at least 10 3s.

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    Yes but he has a point that without making threes there was no separation. You can't win games consistently without making at least 10 3s.

    So, the difference maker was the 3's and not the efficient last night performance of Aldridge and DDR?

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    So, the difference maker was the 3's and not the efficient last night performance of Aldridge and DDR?
    Exactly. DDR and LMA shot with unreal midrange efficiency, still the difference was in the long shots: 30-18, and 1 of those 3pt made was from LMA...Take that away, and it is a toss up.

    You can have a monster midrange game, you still lose in today's NBA.
    Numbers do not lie.

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    Sorry, Nono, you're a little short on cause and effect. Patty shot 25%. He was 3-12 and 0-7 from 3P. Rudy making shots was the difference.

    DeRozan shot 75%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.
    Bryn shot 62.5%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.
    White and Aldridge shot 56% and 57%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.

    The keys were Jokic off the floor and Rudy finally hitting shots.

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    Sorry, Nono, you're a little short on cause and effect. Patty shot 25%. He was 3-12 and 0-7 from 3P. Rudy making shots was the difference.

    DeRozan shot 75%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.
    Bryn shot 62.5%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.
    White and Aldridge shot 56% and 57%. How could that not be enough? Because Jokic.

    The keys were Jokic off the floor and Rudy finally hitting shots.



    THANK YOU!

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    Aldridge played just like I hoped he would last night, I was worried Demar was going to fade away at first, glad I was wrong.

    Even if they were going to lose I just really wanted to see them both play with some energy, driving the basket before just settling for such high difficulty shots. Aldridge with the open three they dared him to take, Aldridge with a pump fake at the foul line and running in for a dunk; that's the kind of stuff I've been wanting him to bring (especially attacking the basket) and with his shooting skills he can get easy like that over and over and it's frustrating when he just immediately settles for his turn around, have to make these guys run and work on the defensive side.

    I'd say they won in despite of Mills who brought some energy but had chance after chance to make an imprint on the game and failed every time, that Denver turnover at the end of the third quarter(iirc) where he has a chance to lay it up and he can't convert, at least 3 - 4 great looks from beyond the 3 at some really crucial points of the game that were not even close, that corner three in the third off the fast break pretty much hit the front of the rim. Forbes should have seen those minutes with how well he was shooting on the night.

    I had a feeling Belinelli was going to be good last night. I know he is universally hated here by now but ever since he was with the Bulls to last year with the 76ers he is usually good for at least a few good playoff stints. It was in the third or fourth where he took one of his crazy ass leaning 3 point shots and missed and I'm just like of course after playing pretty good you are just going to it away with these awful shots but then the next possession down the court what's he do? A fake, a side step and nails the three, the confidence that all the guys need to have if they are going to take game 7.

    Everyone just brought an energy level that I was doubting they were going to bring after the game 5 beatdown. They do that in Denver and they'll get out of the second round. Stay home on their shooters, live with Jokic 1 on 1, win the rebounding battle, and keep the aggression on offense.
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    Jokic was also out when LMA and DDR were resting So when the bench made their run, he was immediately subbed in

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    They made the run because jokic was resting.

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    Many good points, especially regarding the hard-to-repeat shooting performace by LMA+DDR. Which makes me totally disagree on your take about defense.

    The defense is not the problem. Unless you belive you can win 4 playoff games 95-92 in today's NBA.

    The problem is the offense. To keep DEN at 103 is already great: at that point it is totally in your hands to win the game. Making more points.

    I personally would love a 65-63 playoffs game, but it not possible in today's NBA (and it would be unwatchable, given today's rules).
    Spurs issue is the offense. In game-6 we made 30% of the points from 3pt. This is the bare minimum to win against DEN but also agains anybody in the playoffs. And in fact DEN lost.

    I see the defense limitation this team has. But it is not as bad as many believe. Numbers don't lie. SA kept DEN below 108 points in 3 games, this is acceptable defense.
    What doesn't win you games is not making 3s.
    Spurs were having a great offensive performance and still the scoreboard was close. Jokic went to the bench, Spurs made some stops et voila.

    When Spurs offense doesn't work well is because Nuggets defense is being good. Spurs had a good offense all year long, they weren't consistently good beacuse of their poor defense.
    You can outscore your opponent one game but a 7 games series are won by the team who plays better defense. I don't care about points per game received, the KPIs are Opp FG%, easy points conceded (FB points and OppFTs), OppOfReb and Opp TO.

    We can discuss about Opp points in the paint vs Opp 3pt points but I don't think there is too much discussion around the importance of defense in winning.

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    Exactly. DDR and LMA shot with unreal midrange efficiency, still the difference was in the long shots: 30-18, and 1 of those 3pt made was from LMA...Take that away, and it is a toss up.

    You can have a monster midrange game, you still lose in today's NBA.
    Numbers do not lie.
    You can have a monster midrange game and long range. But, if you just trade basket it will not make a difference. Defense is more important not long range.

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    Spurs were having a great offensive performance and still the scoreboard was close. Jokic went to the bench, Spurs made some stops et voila.

    When Spurs offense doesn't work well is because Nuggets defense is being good. Spurs had a good offense all year long, they weren't consistently good beacuse of their poor defense.
    You can outscore your opponent one game but a 7 games series are won by the team who plays better defense. I don't care about points per game received, the KPIs are Opp FG%, easy points conceded (FB points and OppFTs), OppOfReb and Opp TO.

    We can discuss about Opp points in the paint vs Opp 3pt points but I don't think there is too much discussion around the importance of defense in winning.
    I said nothing about "outscoring".

    And I am all for a strong defense. My point is that a defense that keeps DEN at about 100 or few more points, is already a good defense.
    A good defense is a necessary but not sufficient condition to win a playoffs game.

    In today's NBA, if you can't score 110 points you have an offensive problem, no matter your defense. Look at Utah.
    I mentioned after game -5 how I loved DEN defense, their pressure above the FT line is a beauty to watch. Still, this time they shot 6-24 from 3 and they lost.

    You have to play the cards you are dealt: DEN has several 3pt shooters which you can't stop. You can help them stop themselves, not much more than that though.
    Keep the rythm low, rebound, switch smartly. The rest is in the hands of the offense. Yours, and Denver's.

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    You can have a monster midrange game and long range. But, if you just trade basket it will not make a difference. Defense is more important not long range.
    Utah.....

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    OP is absolutely right. Points is not the only thing that propels you to big runs. Ball movement, energy on d, steals, pushing the pace. The Mills-Belli lineup that everyone hate did just that.
    That run broke the game open. Of course it wasn't them alone. Credit to the other three they had with them.

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    ElNono is an idiot, come on 120,000 posts?!! Guy is a loser, tbh, Spurs made their big run when Jokic was resting.
    And the record that will never be broken 120k posts.....most great or spot on though
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    I ride or die with my ElNono, everybody knows that.

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    Why are you melting down after a win?

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    I already admitted that it was Gay, not Patty that hit the 3... let’s cling to that and skip over all the rest per par

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    Also it goes beyond last night game... threads like this need to be made after a W, or people start with ‘this is a knee jerk thread’, or ‘called it’, or some PATFO sperm shielders that don’t show up at all, like after Game 5...

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    Valid point but it's more valid to point out that the run was made with Jokic on the bench.

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    The Starters did their job and Gay (Bench) made the Difference for the win. If DeMar and LaMarcus played that way in game 4 and 5 Spurs already would have been in the 2nd Round.

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    Laker fan troll thread TBH

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    Classic Nono with the most delicious bait of any bait shop this side of the Mississippi

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    Valid point but it's more valid to point out that the run was made with Jokic on the bench.
    this thread is like saying we made a run on the Heat because Timmy and Parker sat and not because LeBron sat also

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    Not sure if OP is serious or not ...

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    Truth is, that bench lineup truly is a death or suicide lineup when they are not shooting and hitting their shots (3's). Whole reason this isn't a sweep is bc of their ty play. They finally hit shots last night and that makes a difference. They hit them enough to dodge Patty's ty play. Let's hope they hit them tomorrow too and not just for one game in this series.

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