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    Oh now it's a fair question?

    You were the main guy defending this trade last summer and bothering those of us that saw the writing on the wall.

    "This was a 48 win team without nephew. Adding an all star in DeRozan to this roster will only improve that" ... Your words
    Still was a move I understood even if I didn’t love it. This statement was after. Now that it’s gone from “what we think” to “what we know”
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    Losing a top 5 player as he's entering his prime. Yikes
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    Why did nephew want out so bad though? So bad that he faked an injury 2 years before his contract expired,
    He was injured till around late feb. HE could have played though but during the injury someone in the org did said something to Kawhi that kinda made him rethink his situation.

    Remeber when they even gave a timetable for return? Because he was about to return...

    But he didnt appreciate that one dudes input and he felt extremely disrespected so he just decided to not return and worst ask for a trade.

    That persons name might pop out if the raps reach the finals though
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    No need to revisit the trade. Spurs won hands down. Plus Kawhi can still leave this summer for the Clippers or another team.
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    Still was a move I understood even if I didn’t love it. This statement was after. Now that it’s gone from “what we think” to “what we know”
    C'mon man. thats not a way to own up.

    Just own up breh,
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    Losing a top 5 player as he's entering his prime. Yikes
    treating him like a re in HEB commercials
    making Mills and Gasol top 4 highest paid players
    benching him the final games of the season, costing him an MVP
    expecting him to be okay with Pop taking all the credit
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    Personally, I had hoped they wouldn't trade Kawhi and just let him "sit out" another year. I would have liked to see that play out. But they traded him for Poeltl and that other guy, so it's time to move on Spurs fans. It is what it is. Let it go.
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    No need to revisit the trade. Spurs won hands down. Plus Kawhi can still leave this summer for the Clippers or another team.
    How come you, therealtruth, and that other guy Keepin' it real do nothing but bull ?
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    Personally, I had hoped they wouldn't trade Kawhi and just let him "sit out" another year. I would have liked to see that play out. But they traded him for Poeltl and that other guy, so it's time to move on Spurs fans. It is what it is. Let it go.
    That's what I also wanted to do. See how it would unfold with him and his people.
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    We'll be stuck with Pau at center if not for this trade
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    C'mon man. thats not a way to own up.

    Just own up breh,
    Own up to what? I’m on record, fun team or not, flawed team or not, that SA would be good with DeRozan. They were. I still think building around them could be good. But there is work to be done.
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    True. But the question is did SA get the right pennies. It’s a fair question
    I don’t think it’s an unfair question, tbh, but I think it’s also fair to point out they were in a tough spot (for whatever reasons, which I’m not privy to)

    Why did nephew want out so bad though? So bad that he faked an injury 2 years before his contract expired,
    I don’t know. He went from winning a championship and finals mvp and I love you pop to that. Does he pulls that if they didn’t ring and he doesn’t become some sort of promising brand? I just don’t know the answer to that.

    Man I thought you are well connected within the organization? its a pretty well known fact that the relationship soured between Kawhi and Org because someone in the Organization (Not pop) screwed it up. Kawhi was legitimateld injured till around March, but they decided they were done with the org once that particular person did what he did.
    I heard that from MoSpur, who’s been calling the shots correctly on the whole situation. I don’t know who that is, maybe he has more details.

    I’m merely pointing out that once we reached that moment where he refused to play and be with the team and basically demand a trade, the Spurs were never getting even 50c on the dollar. The only question is how much they wanted to drag this.
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    I don’t think it’s an unfair question, tbh, but I think it’s also fair to point out they were in a tough spot (for whatever reasons, which I’m not privy to)



    I don’t know. He went from winning a championship and finals mvp and I love you pop to that. Does he pulls that if they didn’t ring and he doesn’t become some sort of promising brand? I just don’t know the answer to that.



    I heard that from MoSpur, who’s been calling the shots correctly on the whole situation. I don’t know who that is, maybe he has more details.

    I’m merely pointing out that once we reached that moment where he refused to play and be with the team and basically demand a trade, the Spurs were never getting even 50c on the dollar. The only question is how much they wanted to drag this.
    They caved in.

    Thats really the worst part about the trade. Its not that they trade kawhi for derozan...No..Because thats probably the best trade they received. Other Orgs were aware that if SA did nothing, kawhi was going to refuse to play anyway. They had zero leverage in the summer but they could have had some leverage in feb when teams were desperate.

    Most organizations knew what happened in San Anontio its why they got ty offers and this was by far their best offer.
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    The book was already out on DeFrozen when the trade took place, he's a career loser. Could've at least asked for Siakam instead and see if it panned out, you guys had nothing to lose at that point.
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    The book was already out on DeFrozen when the trade took place, he's a career loser. Could've at least asked for Siakam instead and see if it panned out, you guys had nothing to lose at that point.
    Salaries dont match
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    But yeah, after the fact, the questions deserve to be asked. But SA was a playoff team and with Murray? More than they were.

    But the guessing is over. SA knows what they have now even though hindsight tells us it wasn’t a good trade it can be salvaged
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    I got no issues with the trade. We still have a pick to play with. The problem was that all offseason moves were made before the trade and the team structure was a mess because of it. Then Murray goes down for the season. Pop and Co did their best to get the most out of the team. LMA was disappointing this series though. A good season but was outplayed by Jokic who I thought LMA should have easily done better.
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    They caved in.

    Thats really the worst part about the trade. Its not that they trade kawhi for derozan...No..Because thats probably the best trade they received. Other Orgs were aware that if SA did nothing, kawhi was going to refuse to play anyway. They had zero leverage in the summer but they could have had some leverage in feb when teams were desperate.

    Most organizations knew what happened in San Anontio its why they got ty offers and this was by far their best offer.
    I think they just wanted to avoid the drama and exposure. This has always been a low-key organization. We can certainly entertain that and break down if it was a good or bad decision.

    There’s just no silver lining where the Spurs would get cents on the dollar and still look great. Look at Denver, Carmelo forced his way out, and it took them years to recover.
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    The Spurs waited too long in trading Kawhi. The latest they should have moved him was on draft night but they were still trying to convince him to stay.
    That is how a conservative organization plays it. That was their mistake, to believe he was going to stay.

    Tobias and the two draft picks was the way to go and look for building for the future. Then swap one of the two picks for the number 10 pick and draft Mikal Bridges. Philly traded that number 10 pick for the number 16 and a 2021 Miami draft pick. Spurs needed to get in the mix to land Bridges on draft night but the conservative organization that they are did nothing with trades on draft night.
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    If S bag rings, this is going to be an alltime bad look for this front office..A GM-ing travesty of epic proportions...

    Imagine turning into the Raptors farm team ..
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    He didn’t want to play in San Antonio anymore. It is what it is. Odds are he won’t be in Toronto next season either. And the fans will hate him there as well. He will probably be a clipper.
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    If S bag rings, this is going to be an alltime bad look for this front office..A GM-ing travesty of epic proportions...

    Imagine turning into the Raptors farm team ..
    He won’t be in the finals. I really love this Milwaukee Bucks team. They have all the ingredients to make it to the finals.

    And the front office did nothing wrong. What exactly were they supposed to do when this ing asshole quit on the team and demanded to be traded.
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    He didn’t want to play in San Antonio anymore. It is what it is. Odds are he won’t be in Toronto next season either. And the fans will hate him there as well. He will probably be a clipper.
    Not a single person in Canada will hate him if he leaves after leading them to a le, maybe even just the Finals..

    He's a BIG deal here right now..
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    Not a single person in Canada will hate him if he leaves after leading them to a le, maybe even the Finals..
    Well they won’t be in the finals. So he will get a lot of next season when he comes back for a visit. Trust me.
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    He didn’t want to play in San Antonio anymore. It is what it is. Odds are he won’t be in Toronto next season either. And the fans will hate him there as well. He will probably be a clipper.
    not if he rings, and then leaves
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