Would you trade DeRozan for Nicholas Batum?

[R. DeMurre]

DeMar's obviously the more prolific and aggressive scorer-- that's one thing I liked about him this year after watching Danny Green & Kyle Anderson as the #2 and #3 guys last year in terms of minutes, both being so tentative. I was impressed that DeMar also had a career year in terms of APG and RPG.

Batum's the better 3 pt shooter and floor spacer. He's the better defender, & a willing passer.

If White, Murray, and Walker are ready to play a combined 70+ MPG next year, does it make sense? Would it clear space for them while improving the D and solving the SF position dilemma? Does a scoring distribution of White, Murray, Walker, & Batum all averaging 10-14ppg make the Spurs better?

[ceperez]

At this point in their careers, I would say DeRozan has more upside than Batum.

2018–19 Charlotte 75 72 31.4 .450 .389 .865 5.2 3.3 .9 .6 9.3

2018–19 San Antonio77 77 34.9 .481 .156 .830 6.0 6.2 1.1 .5 21.2

DeRozan is more productive but less efficient. Both salaries are about the same.

I think it is a question of motivation, I think Batum just doesn't work hard enough.

DeRozan works hard... it's just not translating well enough come crunch time. But at least you get productive minutes!

I will give DeRozan the benefit of the doubt here in that he's been in the Spurs system for just one year.

Honestly, I think Batum could have been a much better player if he got drafted by the Spurs.

[monty4329]

There's 434 other players in the NBA...Batum is probably the only one I'd say no.

[RC_Drunkford]

No. What I wanted to do last season was give them Gasol/Mills for Batum

[BlackAndWhite]

No way. Batum is even more over payed than Derozan for his production and if we get him, we'll get back a lot less in sum.

[HarlemHeat37]

Not only is Batum terrible nowadays, but he's lazy and plays like he doesn't give a anymore..

[ceperez]

Not only is Batum terrible nowadays, but he's lazy and plays like he doesn't give a anymore..

I agree with this.

We can complain about DeRozan's lack of basketball IQ, but we can't complain about his effort!

LMA is different, he at times doesn't put in the effort.

[timvp]

No. Batum used to be good (although advanced stats say his defense was always overrated). Now he's 30 going on about 38 and plays like he has one foot in a retirement home. Batum is a top 10 worst contract in the league. DeRozan is a bargain in comparison.

[ceperez]

No. Batum used to be good (although advanced stats say his defense was always overrated). Now he's 30 going on about 38 and plays like he has one foot in a retirement home. Batum is a top 10 worst contract in the league. DeRozan is a bargain in comparison.

I agree. Batum has already checked out. He's coasting. He actually wanted to be a Spur as late as when the Spurs signed Aldridge.

[Degoat]

You just gotta find a team that wants to try to make the playoffs, similar to how the kings traded for Harrison Barnes at the trade deadline.

[R. DeMurre]

I dunno-- Charlotte is a hard franchise to play for, and Boris Diaw was considered an underachieving malcontent too, before he went to the Spurs...

[EricB]

No. What I wanted to do last season was give them Gasol/Mills for Batum

Jesus Christ, do you watch basketball?

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

NO

[99 Problems]

Na. 4 or 5 yrs back with Boris and Tony yer, but you know, time passes.

[tbdog]

DD makes the allstar team if the Spurs had a chance to build a team around LMA and DD. Players like Batum will never be an allstar.

[Kurgan]

DD makes the allstar team if the Spurs had a chance to build a team around LMA and DD. Players like Batum will never be an allstar.

Derozan is a fake star. He only made all-star teams in the talent-starved East. He wasn't even close to sniffing an all-star spot this year. He'll most likely never make an all-star team again.

[exstatic]

Derozan is a fake star. He only made all-star teams in the talent-starved East. He wasn't even close to sniffing an all-star spot this year. He'll most likely never make an all-star team again.

You can be a fake AllStar, but you can’t be fake All NBA. That’s more exclusive, and not limited to your conference. He’s done that a couple of times.

[duncan2k5]

Yes... Regardless of value I care about who makes the team better... Batum would make us a significantly better team than DDR would... Especially combined with Murray... How much does DDR have to fail for ppl to understand he is not that guy, and he isn't a good role player because his ego won't be able to take it and his game isn't made to be a role player because he can't shoot nor play defense

[Kurgan]

You can be a fake AllStar, but you can’t be fake All NBA. That’s more exclusive, and not limited to your conference. He’s done that a couple of times.

He played the majority of his games against crappy Eastern conference teams. Easy to pad your stats when your compe ion is that bad. First year in the Western Conference and he won't be an all-star or All NBA.

[pad300]

It would need major additions in picks for me, something like :

Derozan, #19 for Batum, #12, 2020 FRP (top 15 protected, with reducing protections afterwards)

[Philthemage]

Yes... Regardless of value I care about who makes the team better... Batum would make us a significantly better team than DDR would... Especially combined with Murray... How much does DDR have to fail for ppl to understand he is not that guy, and he isn't a good role player because his ego won't be able to take it and his game isn't made to be a role player because he can't shoot nor play defense

Are you against DDR because of his salary or his usage? Because if we replaced DDR with Batum, sorry would be about the same, but no way we would have made that playoffs with Batum instead.

Batum can probably be a really good role player but for that price is even crazier than what we are paying DDR.

At least DDR is a go to guy in the regular season. But he's not in the upper echelon like LeBron, Durant, Kyrie etc when it comes to delivering in crunch time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Jesus Christ, do you watch basketball?

Obviously yeah, do you understand what a salary cap is? Probably not

[apalisoc_9]

Batum is one of the worst NBA players and Spursfans wants to give one of their assets to get him?

[superbigtime]

no. DD more upside but Batum smarter player. plausible if other variables. won't happen anyway.

[gambit1990]

something like kemba and batum for demar and patty?