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    it even have her hide in that freaky tree

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    Lame ass episode. I like Arya but c'mon. Weve been waiting to see what the NW can do besides bringing up the dead. At least make a decent fight with Theon and NW at the end Arya comes in. Theon charging at him was lame. Good thing i got the 7 day trial. Ill watch the rest of the episodes once the season ends.

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    the battle was very well executed. it was tense the whole way, i was holding my breath at the end with the slow piano going...

    the set pieces and character decisions were disappointing. the "big deaths" were inconsequential. even if the good guys were going to ultimately win the battle, they should have given this moment so much more weight by having some iconic characters go down. instead we have edd, berric, jorah, theon. some B list and C list characters. so meh. could have had tormund go down valiantly. brienne (to inspire/motivate jaime). podrick. if your'e going to have arya jump in and save the day... have her die at the same time.

    instead The Long Night will just be a battle where a lot of nameless people died.

    also what the was bran doing the entire time when he was warging? i was waiting for some payoff. have him warg into the dragon john had been riding. have him try to warg into the NK to distract him so arya catching him off guard would make sense.

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    So is anybody going to start asking why Jon can ride a ing dragon, or is he going to have to tell everybody why himself? I would imagine that he told everybody that he will be on Rhaegal during the battle planning.

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    Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
    - Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
    - Only useless characters dying
    - Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
    - Bran being a useless gimp as usual

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    Solid 8/10 episode but this was way hyped up and failed to meet the golden standards.

    Not only was the battle at night and I could barely see , things were happening so fast you missed a lot of stuff.

    I was activately rooting for the Night King to kill the useless Bran. The got says two words just to morphed into ravens not ten feet away. I was hoping he'd try to go back in time and see interesting new stuff.

    Let's be honest, TNK got the Oberyn treatment. Guy was too smug. Should have speared Bran from a distance or just do what he did with the previous 3eyed raven.

    After this episode battle, there is no way Cersei's one is gonna make a big inprint. She's just not that threatening. Though I have a feeling the creators of this show are gonna make her look even more badass than the Night King...somehow.

    That battle should honestly last about 25-30 minutes tops. If most characters survived the actual living dead, they have a great chance surviving this battle.

    Oh and Sansa and Tyrion needlessly leaving their perfect hiding spot for...I dont know what exactly.

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    Solid 8/10 episode but this was way hyped up and failed to meet the golden standards.

    Not only was the battle at night and I could barely see , things were happening so fast you missed a lot of stuff.

    I was activately rooting for the Night King to kill the useless Bran. The got says two words just to morphed into ravens not ten feet away. I was hoping he'd try to go back in time and see interesting new stuff.

    Let's be honest, TNK got the Oberyn treatment. Guy was too smug. Should have speared Bran from a distance or just do what he did with the previous 3eyed raven.

    After this episode battle, there is no way Cersei's one is gonna make a big inprint.
    She's just not that threatening. Though I have a feeling the creators of this show are gonna make her look even more badass than the Night King...somehow.

    That battle should honestly last about 25-30 minutes tops. If most characters survived the actual living dead, they have a great chance surviving this battle.

    Oh and Sansa and Tyrion needlessly leaving their perfect hiding spot for...I dont know what exactly.
    Deny 's armies are devastated the Dothraki are gone the unsullied are s s of what they were and the north is ed up too. The only thing to stop the gold company now is the dragons

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    Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
    - Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
    - Only useless characters dying
    - Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
    - Bran being a useless gimp as usual
    I half agree with you here. The wights would have swarmed Winterfell far sooner had Jon and Dany not been around. The Night King would still be on Viserion, too. I just don't get why Drogon would just stand there and let wights attack him. What the ? The blizzard makes sense to me, but the White Walkers bring the cold. They did something similar in Hardhome to everybody on the other side of the gates.

    The only death that I didn't see coming was Lyanna Mormont's. I thought Podrick was a goner, but he lived. Jorah and Theon are major characters, but who didn't see them dying from the start of the series?

    I don't know why anybody wanted or expected something more from The Night King. To me, his origins were shown in season six. His motivation was to kill everybody, The Three Eyed Raven especially. He was always more of a force of nature more than he was a character. I don't understand why Jon and Daenerys were built up as The Prince(ss) that was promised, if Arya Stark is the one who takes The Night King out and ends The Long Night. At this point, Jon and/or Dany would have to rule Westeros for all of the buildup to make sense, but it probably won't happen. D&D will subvert our expectations again and have the Stark kids rule or have no ruler at all.

    Bran was just bait in this episode. He better actually use his powers to help in the second half of the season.
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    So pretty much when they ran out of book material. Though this is Martin's fault for being a lazy fatass and letting Hollywood people write the ending to his story.

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    It's obvious the showrunners just wanted to get all the horror/fantasy out of the way so they can go back to the political drama. That's the way show started and it's looking like that's how they're gonna end it. I'm honestly tired of Cersei though - having her and Theon's uncle be the final baddies is really underwhelming imo.

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    It's obvious the showrunners just wanted to get all the horror/fantasy out of the way so they can go back to the political drama. That's the way show started and it's looking like that's how they're gonna end it. I'm honestly tired of Cersei though - having her and Theon's uncle be the final baddies is really underwhelming imo.
    Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a load more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.

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    Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a load more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.
    He lost the drive to write the material a long time ago. Three good books in the first five years. Then he's spent the next two decades writing two awful books that didn't move the story forward. He's wealthier now than he has ever been at any other time in his life so he probably sees no reason to spend his last couple years on Earth writing this .

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    so ing tired of last second saves... looks like there’s no way jon survives and then dany saves him... and then looks like there’s no way dany survives and then jorah saves her.
    Theyve been doing this A LOT the last 2 seasons... pretty annoying and predictable tbh. Especially with the dragons.

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    I half agree with you here. The wights would have swarmed Winterfell far sooner had Jon and Dany not been around. The Night King would still be on Viserion, too. I just don't get why Drogon would just stand there and let wights attack him. What the ? The blizzard makes sense to me, but the White Walkers bring the cold. They did something similar in Hardhome to everybody on the other side of the gates.

    The only death that I didn't see coming was Lyanna Mormont's. I thought Podrick was a goner, but he lived. Jorah and Theon are major characters, but who didn't see them dying from the start of the series?

    I don't know why anybody wanted or expected something more from The Night King. To me, his origins were shown in season six. His motivation was to kill everybody, The Three Eyed Raven especially. He was always more of a force of nature more than he was a character. I don't understand why Jon and Daenerys were built up as The Prince(ss) that was promised, if Arya Stark is the one who takes The Night King out and ends The Long Night. At this point, Jon and/or Dany would have to rule Westeros for all of the buildup to make sense, but it probably won't happen. D&D will subvert our expectations again and have the Stark kids rule or have no ruler at all.

    Bran was just bait in this episode. He better actually use his powers to help in the second half of the season.
    with bran doing absolutely nothing, im still unsure why the night king especially wants to kill the three eyed raven. he's no threat.

    now if he was able to warg into his dragon or other undead... sure.

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    Arya killing the White King isn't even in my top 3 annoyances of the episode tbh
    - Idiot dragon scenes and Jon/Danaerys being lost in a blizzard and useless as the actual battle happened
    - Only useless characters dying
    - Night King a threat that was created with no purpose and died without one
    - Bran being a useless gimp as usual

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    Actually, the show and the books started with wights beyond the wall, so there won't be any bookends. I do believe D&D when they say that they are following GRRM's ending, but I don't think any of them know how to get to the ending. A Storm of Swords came out 19 years ago and everybody loved it. Since then, GRRM has released only two more books, added a load more characters and made the plot of the series even more convoluted. I think he would rather write books about the history of Westeros because he doesn't know how to end A Song of Ice and Fire. It's been eight years since the last book and no timeline for The Winds of Winter's release. GRRM is going to croak and all we are going to get are a few chapters and an outline of where he wanted the story to go.
    Dune fans say hold my beer.

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    This show is so ing bad now

    I have the confused black gay guy face every time I read a comment about how amazing or intense the last episode was.
    Arya going from deep inside castle winterfell, past hordes of walkers, mid air for the exact split second to kill the night king, while the last 20 minutes every main character was surrounded and seconds from dying.... come on man

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    melisanda was the real mvp of this episode. Because of her I could actually see something on screen sometimes.

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    melisanda was the real mvp of this episode. Because of her I could actually see something on screen sometimes.
    Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk

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    Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk
    I watched it on my PC and the stream quality was pretty damn bad. I could see most of what happened, but it did look choppy at points.

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    Dude I had to turn my TV to max brightness dynamic settings. People on reddit were saying it was likely people's TV settings, idk
    nah, it was not the TV's, the episode was just ugly, especially those early scenes. After watching it on a 4K TV and on the PC monitor it was the same .

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    I watched it on my PC and the stream quality was pretty damn bad. I could see most of what happened, but it did look choppy at points.
    nah, it was not the TV's, the episode was just ugly, especially those early scenes. After watching it on a 4K TV and on the PC monitor it was the same .
    What made it worse was how ty and fast all the cut scenes in the fighting was, at least in the first 20 minutes. I could hardly even focus on who or what was what, cut scenes every 1.5 seconds

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    Uh oh (read at your own risk): https://old.reddit.com/r/freefolk/co...oilers_i_know/

    This person was under the radar at first, but looks to be batting a 1000 right now. The last bit of info is third-hand, and it could be from a fake scene that D&D shot (another person claimed that somebody on set saw Jaime or Podrick die in Brienne's arm's in Winterfell, but that never happened), but so far, it's not looking good.

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    Why does it matter that they lost most of their army? They have Arya

    She should be able to end the remainder of the series in 15 minutes or so..

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    Why does it matter that they lost most of their army? They have Arya

    She should be able to end the remainder of the series in 15 minutes or so..
    10,000 years of buildup and the Night King is taken out by an 18-year-old girl who flunked out of Faceless Man school.

    Thanks, D&D. My expectations have been subverted. Rian Johnson would be proud.

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