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    Who knows maybe the night king was a the whole time, every chance he had to 1v1 Jon he cowed away.

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    would’ve been better if arya risked her life to kill a white walker who she thought was the night king... and then ended up getting killed herself by another white walker.

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    10,000 years of buildup and the Night King is taken out by an 18-year-old girl who flunked out of Faceless Man school.

    Thanks, D&D. My expectations have been subverted. Rian Johnson would be proud.
    LOL. So sad and so true.


    Man my head has been so far up D&D's ass these last few years worth of seasons, I totally lost perspective and forgot the Night King isn't even in the ing books we should have seen this cheap ass ending coming miles away

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    would’ve been better if arya risked her life to kill a white walker who she thought was the night king... and then ended up getting killed herself by another white walker.
    Anybody whose last name is "Stark" has a 100% survival rate at this point. The Lannisters are doomed and the Targaryens might be, too. Sam isn't going to die either, since he is GRRM's self-insert. I think that if the secondary characters were going to die, it would have been in the last episode. Now, I think D&D might kill a few more just to maintain the allusion that the show is still dangerous, but they will leave most of them alive.

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    yup. i was complaining throughout the week that they're going to rush White Walker story, and that a plotline which has been slowly developed and teased FOR YEARS cant be done justice with just one battle sequence (no matter how long it was). and especially with none of the main characters dying (secondary characters like jorah, theon and tertiary characters like berric/edd/lyanna/mel dont count). it means there was no weight to any of this. one of brienne/jaime should have died in the others arms. imo at least one of jon/dany/arya should have died. or more secondary characters like pod, sam, grey worm, gilly, missandei, varys. i mean what's varys' purpose anymore? and if they're worried about not having too many climactic hero deaths, i get that. but it would have even more effect if you just have fleeting shots of character after character all getting stabbed in quick succession. like "oh wait ____ died? what now ___ died? WTF"

    even if the episode ended in victory for the good guys, it should have been a more sad event. i mean sure, in the moment, it was full of dread. everything looked hopeless, they were helplessly overrun. but at the end, all is better and everything is ok and everyone we actually care about it alive. when fans look back to this episode and think back on the battle, its going to be a happy memory. not a bittersweet one. and thats not GOT

    im not complaining about the dothraki moment. this show has had tons of awful battle strategy, its not mean to be the art of war. and that scene was ing great. get everyone pumped up with hope with flaming weapons charging, the screamers that we know have slaughtered armed lannisters, and then seeing the flames die out nary a sound. i think that was brilliant theater.

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    Deny 's armies are devastated the Dothraki are gone the unsullied are s s of what they were and the north is ed up too. The only thing to stop the gold company now is the dragons
    They should still have 10-15 thousand troops plus whatever the Iron Born has.

    But even without an army, there is no way they will keep Cersei on the Throne. How extremely ty would that be.

    Which is why I said the second battle will not measure up in scale or even the fear factor.

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    It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

    Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bull ? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

    If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this . I guess I am the re for not expecting this forced progressive bull in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.

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    I thought there were some really good moments and some that were mailed in. This show has built a reputation for surprise, genius battle moves that sway the momentum. It's disappointing that the Night King's death was just a surprise attack from behind. I love that it was Arya, but that was a very un-GOT way to resolve a major plot point.

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    It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

    Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bull ? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

    If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this . I guess I am the re for not expecting this forced progressive bull in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.
    i dont see how you come away from Endgame thinking there was a feminist agenda unless you're going out of your way trying to be upset about it

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    thinking there was a feminist agenda ... going out of your way trying to be upset about it
    These two things usually go hand in hand.

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    i dont see how you come away from Endgame thinking there was a feminist agenda unless you're going out of your way trying to be upset about it
    I don't believe that the Russo brothers set out to make a movie with a feminist agenda, but there is a certain level of pandering that becomes impossible to ignore when we are inundated with it.

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    I don't believe that the Russo brothers set out to make a movie with a feminist agenda, but there is a certain level of pandering that becomes impossible to ignore when we are inundated with it.
    are they pandering to you when 95% of the powerful characters are male?

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    It's one thing if some fan's theory didn't actually pan out. It's something else entirely to build up a character's arc for 8 seasons so he can take out the White Walker threat, only for his goblin assassin cousin-sister to steal all the glory.

    Jesus Christ, this weekend has been a disaster. Why are we being inundated with this forced feminist bull ? First, I saw Captain Marvel. She became one of the most powerful beings in the universe because she shot an engine? Then she pops back up in Avengers: Endgame, takes out Thanos's flagship (don't complain about spoilers, because it doesn't matter), and the viewers get to see all the female superheroes pose for the camera for no reason. Finally, Game of Thrones went full Marvel by having Arya kill an ancient threat with her elite Faceless Men skills. Is Disney hiring? D&D would probably love to write a superhero movie about a strong womyn who can do no wrong.

    If there is a silver lining in all of this, it's my realization that I shouldn't be caring so much about this . I guess I am the re for not expecting this forced progressive bull in every medium of entertainment the public consumes.
    I didn't mind the endgame female scene. And I don't take Arya's NK scene as feminist. It's just ty short cut writing by two y queefs who don't know how to wrap up the mess GRRM left them.

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    I dont think anyone is upset about Arya killing the NK. The problem is how she did it. I wouldnt be surprised if the show has a re ed ending, cause the writing in the last 2 season has been pretty bad.

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    . Faceless Men magic to pose as Bran. Bran stabs the Night King, removes his face, bam, it's Arya
    This is where it lost me thats not how that works they need to be dead to take their face

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    jon and bran didnt play enough of a role. and the huge deal they've made about valyrian steel swords ended up being a big nothingburger with the exception of arya's dagger.

    sam giving jorah hearthsbane didnt do anything. longclaw didnt do anything. brienne's oathkeeper didnt do anything. jamies widow's wail didnt do anything.

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    i wonder what GRRM's thoughts are.

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    This is where it lost me thats not how that works they need to be dead to take their face
    not just that... but bran is "marked" by the NK. i dont think an imposter would do the trick.

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    The engame was pandering but it wasn't as gratuitous as what we got from Jane in thor: tdw or iron man 3. I didn't mind it and it wasn't enough cause of course feminists are still ing about it.

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    i wonder what GRRM's thoughts are.

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    jon and bran didnt play enough of a role. and the huge deal they've made about valyrian steel swords ended up being a big nothingburger with the exception of arya's dagger.

    sam giving jorah hearthsbane didnt do anything. longclaw didnt do anything. brienne's oathkeeper didnt do anything. jamies widow's wail didnt do anything.
    They still one shot the army of the dead.

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    The engame was pandering but it wasn't as gratuitous as what we got from Jane in thor: tdw or iron man 3. I didn't mind it and it wasn't enough cause of course feminists are still ing about it.
    if jane was meant to be feminist pandering, they did an awful job. oh here's a successful and respected scientist who instantly goes goo-goo eyes and preteen fangirl because she sees beefcake with muscles.

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    They still one shot the army of the dead.
    yeah the dagger played a big role, like i said. that's been a story piece since season 1 and its nice to see it have payoff. but theyve been making a pretty big deal about knowing which swords have valyrian steel.

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