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    They're the bridge to the next generation, so the kids are never on a terrible team. Many players who come into this league highly touted never develop properly, because all they do is learn to lose on the lottery team that drafted them.
    Well, we'll see if those guys are on board for this plan.

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    Happy to hear Pop is coming back but like many stated Marco or Patty has got to go. I have a feeling Marco is going to be the guy who gets the axe before Patty. I hope we can keep Rudy on a 1 or 2 (at the most) year deal. I hope we either trade the draft rights of Milutinov to help move up in the draft or bring him over on a decent deal because he is looking like a solid asset in Europe

    I'm super excited about the draft and can't wait to see who we get.

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    Well, we'll see if those guys are on board for this plan.
    Why would they not be? They're getting well paid. The Spurs never screw over anyone who works with them. If the time comes to move them, the Spurs will take their wishes into account, and won't expect too much in return. They'll get a soft landing.

    I've been following the Spurs since '89, when the Admiral docked here in SA. In all of that time, I've only seen three cases where the Spurs just virulently wanted to get rid of a player: Dennis Rodman, Stephen Jackson's second tour here, and Kawhi. None of those players fall into that category of 'working with the team'.

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    This is good news. Unless you want to sludge through 5-10 years of being truly mediocre. Not Spurs fan mediocre, but missing the playoffs by small margins but too good to get a great draft pick mediocre. That’s a hamster wheel I’d like to put off as long as possible. In Pop We Trust.

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    Thing is, and you're right on your point, that by the timeline you're mentioning, LMA will be in his late 30s and DeRozan will be past his prime. If the plan isn't to be an instant contender, then shouldn't they explore trading those two while they still have value?
    Not in my opinion because in the West other than GS, there is no one that is so far ahead that a team could not make a run. While sa may not be able to become an instant ahead of the pack contender they can be on par with most teams.

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    This concerns me big time. I really hope we dont see a Pau/Mills deal for Rudy. One year makes perfect sense but they cannot afford to give Rudy a loyalty contract.
    Don't worry man, they only give loyalty contracts to players.

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    Why would they not be? They're getting well paid. The Spurs never screw over anyone who works with them. If the time comes to move them, the Spurs will take their wishes into account, and won't expect too much in return. They'll get a soft landing.

    I've been following the Spurs since '89, when the Admiral docked here in SA. In all of that time, I've only seen three cases where the Spurs just virulently wanted to get rid of a player: Dennis Rodman, Stephen Jackson's second tour here, and Kawhi. None of those players fall into that category of 'working with the team'.
    Dwayne Schintzius was one and done with the Spurs after being a first round draft pick the year before. I heard Bob Bass didn't like the mullet. I didn't realize it, but when I looked him up the dude died in 2012 of Leukemia.

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    People who want Pop gone are gonna be in for some serious disappointment with whoever gets picked to succeed one of the greatest coaches of all-time.

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    This board is gonna implode this summer when Spurs give DeRozan a 4 year 140 million extension.

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    Don’t expect any trades. Wants the same core back, unsurprisingly.


    Sorry piece of old stubborn troll

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    So it's what I expected. The draft will be key. They have to draft players who can play NBA minutes and don't get parked in the G-League for 1 season. Moving one of Belinelli/Mills/Forbes to move up would help. Although with Mills you probably trade down and not up if you move that bad contract. Anyway keep Rudy, let DeMar work on his 3-ball. And with the MLE add one of the many SFs that are available: Marcus Morris, Danny Green, Demarre Carrol, Ariza, Stanley Johnson, etc.

    If the Spurs somehow find a reclamation project for cheap or get good vets on minimum deals like a Jeff Green this team should be significantly better. Starts with the draft, we'll know more after that

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    The night is dark and full of terrors.
    He just gave away not only a winnable series but a ing sweep! And is basically saying, "Hey let's do that again haters!"


    Sorry old loser

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    He had to, with next season looking promising. This season was about building a new core.
    Yeah, Murray, White, Walker, Poeltl, Bertans and Forbes are solid pieces with two more picks/players likely added to the mix.

    Next season will be huge for the continued development (and hopefully good health) of that group/core.

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    Don’t expect any trades. Wants the same core back, unsurprisingly.



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    Pop wants to hand off the Spurs as a contender to his successor. I still fully believe it will be Udoka unless he accepts another HC job before Pop retiring. I think next year will be the last with the Spurs then coaching Team USA. Getting a gold medal would be a nice sendoff.

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    LMA? That dead weight only carried the team for 2 straight seasons post Nephew. Simpleton.
    But how fast did he disappear in the big time and how old is he now?

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    No surprises . . .

    - Anyone who ever thought there was a chance of major change (I've said it countless times, but Forbes is the only rotation player who might be traded) has either ignored how this franchise operates or is flat out delusional. Especially coming on the heels of what they experienced a year ago, expect them to be even more gun shy than usual.

    - Ditto for anyone who thinks a rotational demotion is coming. Walker may push Belinelli, but that's about it. But by being 1 injury/rest game away from minutes, the former should still play a decent amount.

    - Or Anyone who thinks Gay is signing (essentially) a 3rd straight 1 year deal. I fully expect 2, with possibly a partially guaranteed 3rd. Barring catastrophic injury, they should have little to no difficulty moving him in a year if they pivot into a re-build (probably only happens if next season goes disastrously) though.

    - Pop gave lip service to DeRozan attempting more 3s and I fully expect him and Aldridge (for the umpteenth) year to talk a good game about it on media day and maybe even start out the season averaging 2ish attempts per game . . . but as soon as an inevitable slump hits, they'll likely eventually revert and not be held accountable for it.

    - I also don't expect much from Murray on this front. Shooting something like White's volume/% is probably the best that can be hoped for.

    - Even if White makes a meaningful leap, he's not likely to be a true sniper and even if he were, 1 is not enough. There's just no way a Murray-White-DeRozan-Aldridge-Poeltl unit can function offensively, so expect White to be essentially co-6th man (Gay).

    - As good as the player development has traditionally been, they have to make the 3 the #1 priority going forward. Even the ones who became good 3-point shooters didn't attempt enough.

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    Has anybody actually watched the entire interview? Some points:

    - He thought the team overachieved
    - Basically blames the 7seed/1st round out on new players having to play together, injuries and the Kawhi trade
    - Good luck to anybody who thinks Patty Mills will be traded, Pop talked a whole minute about him and nothing he said had anything to do with basketball. It was all about him putting offcourt activities together
    - Sounds like he wants to keep Bryn, had high praise for him
    - Says he wants DeRozan to shoot 3s
    - Said that they didn't attempt a lot of 3s cause they didn't have a lot of players who could break the defense down, one might think DJ coming back will result in more 3-point attempts
    - Says Dejounte will play the 1 and the 2
    - He talked about Lonnie and Dejounte, one should think Lonnie will get a lot more minutes next year
    - Wants to resign Rudy
    - Had high praise for Dante and Pondexter for staying ready, practicing hard and being good examples for the young guys
    - Enjoyed coaching this year and thinks the team will be better because they are building a new culture and now they played together for a full season
    - Said White has to work on his shooting in the offseason

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    So it's what I expected. The draft will be key. They have to draft players who can play NBA minutes and don't get parked in the G-League for 1 season. Moving one of Belinelli/Mills/Forbes to move up would help. Although with Mills you probably trade down and not up if you move that bad contract. Anyway keep Rudy, let DeMar work on his 3-ball. And with the MLE add one of the many SFs that are available: Marcus Morris, Danny Green, Demarre Carrol, Ariza, Stanley Johnson, etc.

    If the Spurs somehow find a reclamation project for cheap or get good vets on minimum deals like a Jeff Green this team should be significantly better. Starts with the draft, we'll know more after that
    The last player that met that criteria walked out the door last summer. He was drafted #15, overall, and we haven't had a pick any higher since 1997.

    There's a reason that the Spurs do that. It works. The players get to learn the system with no pressure to perform as rookies, they get a taste of the NBA with limited games. They get player mentoring and coaching at the NBA level. By the time year 2 rolls around, they have all of that, two summer leagues, and two training camps under their belts. They are ready to play.

    Some of you really have the patience of a two year old. If your cupcakes take 20 minutes at 325 degrees, will they be as good in 10 minutes at 650 degrees?

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    The last player that met that criteria walked out the door last summer. He was drafted #15, overall, and we haven't had a pick any higher since 1997.

    There's a reason that the Spurs do that. It works. The players get to learn the system with no pressure to perform as rookies, they get a taste of the NBA with limited games. They get player mentoring and coaching at the NBA level. By the time year 2 rolls around, they have all of that, two summer leagues, and two training camps under their belts. They are ready to play.

    Some of you really have the patience of a two year old. If your cupcakes take 20 minutes at 325 degrees, will they be as good in 10 minutes at 650 degrees?
    And when they drafted him what was the teams biggest need? SF? What is it now? SF? With defense maybe? If we talk about moving up in the draft, we talk about it because you are trying to get a more talented player who could get minutes right away. Maybe not as a starter, but as an off the bench guy. Some of you really have the IQ of a 2 year old

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    And when they drafted him what was the teams biggest need? SF? What is it now? SF? With defense maybe? If we talk about moving up in the draft, we talk about it because you are trying to get a more talented player who could get minutes right away. Maybe not as a starter, but as an off the bench guy. Some of you really have the IQ of a 2 year old
    The 2011 draft was loaded, and produced 7 All Stars. This one, not so much. Teams in the top 10 will wind up with non-lottery level talent. We barely had what Indiana wanted, and could only get up to #15. We don't have a player of the quality and experience of GHill, and getting to #15 likely won't net us what you want: a plug in SF, ready to go out of the box. That's just not happening.

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    The last player that met that criteria walked out the door last summer. He was drafted #15, overall, and we haven't had a pick any higher since 1997.

    There's a reason that the Spurs do that. It works. The players get to learn the system with no pressure to perform as rookies, they get a taste of the NBA with limited games. They get player mentoring and coaching at the NBA level. By the time year 2 rolls around, they have all of that, two summer leagues, and two training camps under their belts. They are ready to play.

    Some of you really have the patience of a two year old. If your cupcakes take 20 minutes at 325 degrees, will they be as good in 10 minutes at 650 degrees?

    This post above is nothing but the truth.

    If you prove you can play Pop will give you minutes like how he played Tony Parker, Kawhi Leonard, George Hill, Gary Neal, even Dejuan Blair got run as a rookie. If not then they will bring you along slowly until they feel you are comfortable. Now I will admit Pop most definitely favors veteran players but he also isn't afraid to play yound players.

    I honestly feel Murray, White, and Walker are going to get a run barring injuries or being traded next season

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    The 2011 draft was loaded, and produced 7 All Stars. This one, not so much. Teams in the top 10 will wind up with non-lottery level talent. We barely had what Indiana wanted, and could only get up to #15. We don't have a player of the quality and experience of GHill, and getting to #15 likely won't net us what you want: a plug in SF, ready to go out of the box. That's just not happening.
    I'm sure people would have said that about Derrick White at 29 as well, but from what I know he looked ready in his first year. I get what you are saying, but given PATFO's track record, I expect them to find high talented players. Teams weren't so high on Kawhi either. Maybe they can find another diamond in the rough

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    The 2011 draft was loaded, and produced 7 All Stars. This one, not so much. Teams in the top 10 will wind up with non-lottery level talent. We barely had what Indiana wanted, and could only get up to #15. We don't have a player of the quality and experience of GHill, and getting to #15 likely won't net us what you want: a plug in SF, ready to go out of the box. That's just not happening.
    If a lot of these guys stay in the draft that have early entered I think some solid NBA caliber 3&D small forwards are going to be easily had lower in the draft. Most of these teams draft guys who are young and good athletes but their are some non freshman that fit the bill if you look at these people declaring.

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    But how fast did he disappear in the big time and how old is he now?
    The entire Nuggets game plan was not to let LA beat them. They doubled almost every possession. His teammates failed him, by and large.

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