OT: Futbol. Walkball?

[midnightpulp]

You keep showing how clueless you are about football every time you make those kind of statements, I love it

Ronaldo recorded the fastest speed at the 2018 World Cup

Pogba is a top 3 soccer athlete. I don't mean player.

I'm less clueless about TwinkTrot than you are about baseball. Here's a clue. Ronaldo (soccer's fastest player, as proven by the World Cup stats), would rank in the 200s on the MLB sprint speed leaderboard.

[lefty]

Fattyball: On average players cover an impressive 242 feet per game

[midnightpulp]

Jesus, the soccer world is so enamored with its greatest athlete, they're still performing tests on him as if he's a mutant

Let's try and put Cristiano Ronaldo's incredible fitness into perspective.

Real Madrid's coaching staff performed a series of tests on Cristiano Ronaldo's body that indicated that he has the physical condition of a 23-year old.

The man himself has recently claimed that he will carry on playing for another eight years.

It was revealed that the 33-year-old has the fat content of 7%. If you compare this to other footballers, the average is around 10 or 11%, according to a report from Spanish publication AS.

Ronaldo also has a muscle mass of 50%, and again, if you compare it again to other professionals, the usual figure doesn't exceed 46%.

No other soccer player in history has been examined like Ronaldo. He truly is a specimen in that realm. But for fun, let's see a comparable "fatball" athlete, using Ronaldo's 3.61 82 foot time as a baseline. 3.55 second average (on baseball dirt) over 80 feet and built like a linebacker:



Thames is a beast, so a bit unfair to Ronaldo.

[midnightpulp]

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It's Vladdy Jr. day, Left! Son of your boyhood hero (or was that Gary Carter?).

[FrostKing]

At 33 years old, too. Then factor in he has soccer's greatest vertical, its most "shredded" physique, etc, he's probably the greatest pure soccer athlete who's ever lived. But funny enough, he'd only be around 200th on the "fatball" sprint speed list (3.61 82 foot time in lab conditions).

34 kmph = 21.127 miles per hour


"Beckham's top speed heading into the end zone was reportedly recorded at 21.85 miles per hour."

[FrostKing]

Did you get the conversion rate wrong buddy?

[midnightpulp]

34 kmph = 21.127 miles per hour


"Beckham's top speed heading into the end zone was reportedly recorded at 21.85 miles per hour."

Oh, you're talking about Odell Beckham. I thought you disagreed that Ronaldo is soccer's GOAT athlete and were bringing up David Beckham's past top speed as a counter. So you're arguing that fat lineman can't be as fast as Ronaldo over the 40 since he's only slightly slower than ODB, correct?

Let's unpack:

You don't reach top sprint speed until about 60-70m. Ronaldo's World Cup sprint was over 80 yards. How long was Beckham's play? Furthermore, both players are running on equal surfaces (grass), but NFL players have to wear pads, which slows them down. I've pro-rated Ronaldo's 40 time from his 3.61 82 foot time to 4.8 seconds (I gave him typical NFL WR acceleration). Brian O'Neill is 6'7", 305 pounds and ran the 40 in 4.82.

I'm also not discounting Ronaldo's athleticism, just that he isn't a special athlete by MLB, NFL, or NBA standards. I bring this up only to shoot down the morons who think baseball doesn't require top tier athleticism. Sure, you can get away with a few extra pounds at the catcher, DH, and pitcher positions, but you better have an elite arm, have re power, or superb velocity and control to make up for your lack of speed. All the "fat" DHs usually have poor overall game impact. Fielder hit 50 homers and was only a 3.0 WAR player. Not even all-star level. Speed kills in baseball, always has.

[apalisoc_9]

Mids having to create alts now

Soccer is what I call movingball.

Baseball is what would call stationaryball

[midnightpulp]

Mids having to create alts now

Soccer is what I call movingball.

Baseball is what would call stationaryball

Why would I create an alt? I would've loved to find this fact . No, soccer is walkball. Proven by the stats. They walk and lightly jog more than engage in athletic events. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just funny how your crew plays up soccer as some kind of endurance test. Its stamina demands aren't extraordinary. I mean, I guess it's the most athletic sport humans ever invented if you find walking and jogging impressive for 6 miles over 2 hours impressive. I particularly don't.

[DAF86]

Notice how there's a 0% of standing still.

[midnightpulp]

Notice how there's a 0% of standing still.

Because they writhe on the ground instead. "writhing time."



I think Neymar spent 14 minutes in a tournament doing that. Face of the sport after the big 2 retire.

https://www.cnet.com/news/world-cup-...-on-the-floor/

[Will Hunting]

Show me a major american sport where players cover 322Km in a single season? I'm waiting

American athletes are notorious bench warmers. They're either waiting for their turn to play or for the latest car brand/fast food commercial to end.

Beisbol is especially egregious in that department. Maybe that's the reason why they have so many fatties

OP thought he had a hot take with this one

going by the "distance covered" argument golf > soccer in terms of athleticism

[midnightpulp]

going by the "distance covered" argument golf > soccer in terms of athleticism

Soccer crew just can't notch a win. Been 4 years and they're batting 000.

[FkLA]

going by the "distance covered" argument golf > soccer in terms of athleticism

6 miles in a 180 game regular season? Holy

[midnightpulp]

6 miles in a 180 game regular season? Holy

still trying to use the distance covered argument as a measure of athleticism when DoK proved how stupid it is. Here's the thing, any athlete who conditions himself to the point where he can run 18-20mph can handle 7 miles over 2 hours. Baseball players can handle the endurance demands of soccer better than soccer players could handle the endurance demands of baseball.

A soccer player would destroy his UCL 10 pitches in trying to throw at max velocity. Tim Tebow never got injured playing football, yet broke a bone in his hand during a swing. Neymar probably dislocates his shoulder after an hour in the batting cages (this has also happened to MLB players). Anyone can trot around for a few miles over 2 hours with a 30 minute break. It's not that impressive.

[FkLA]

still trying to use the distance covered argument as a measure of athleticism when DoK proved how stupid it is. Here's the thing, any athlete who conditions himself to the point where he can run 18-20mph can handle 7 miles over 2 hours. Baseball players can handle the endurance demands of soccer better than soccer players could handle the endurance demands of baseball.

A soccer player would destroy his UCL 10 pitches in trying to throw at max velocity. Tim Tebow never got injured playing football, yet broke a bone in his hand during a swing. Neymar probably dislocates his shoulder after an hour in the batting cages (this has also happened to MLB players). Anyone can trot around for a few miles over 2 hours with a 30 minute break. It's not that impressive.

My argument has always been that the sport itself is what's kind of a joke physically not the (top) players themselves. Yeah, there's some physical specimen in fatball but it's just going to waste since the large majority of the time they're just standing around or on the bench eating sunflower seeds.

Then you have the fatties that prove how it's not even necessary to be in top physical form to be really good at fatball.

[apalisoc_9]

My argument has always been that the sport itself is what's kind of a joke physically not the (top) players themselves. Yeah, there's some physical specimen in fatball but it's just going to waste since the large majority of the time they're just standing around or on the bench eating sunflower seeds.

Then you have the fatties that prove how it's not even necessary to be in top physical form to be really good at fatball.

You can be an MVP in Baseball with Zero Dietary discipline.

Let that sink in for a moment...

[Bynumite]

Mid shamelessly moving the goalpost

Nobody said distance covered = athleticism, the original premise of this thread was simply distance covered in soccer. Only when mid's alt got shut down and it was shown that soccer has a higher distance covered per game/season compared to major american sports, especially Fattyball, that's when mid brought atheleticism into the conversation trying to save face

[midnightpulp]

My argument has always been that the sport itself is what's kind of a joke physically not the (top) players themselves. Yeah, there's some physical specimen in fatball but it's just going to waste since the large majority of the time they're just standing around or on the bench eating sunflower seeds.

Then you have the fatties that prove how it's not even necessary to be in top physical form.

No, your argument is based out of bias. You won't reply to this and conveniently leave the thread after I drop these facts yet again.

Do you think there's physical specimens in baseball just because they enjoy looking muscular? Are you really that in' dumb? World Series have been won and lost because a player wasn't fast enough to beat out a throw or chase down a flyball. They've been won and lost on stolen bases. This suggests speed is a pretty in' important part of the sport. Your hero Ronaldo (GOAT soccer athlete) would only have middle-tier speed among position players. So if the sport is a "joke physically," Ronaldo is laughable, right? If it's a joke physically, why are there 14 Yankees on the DL, right now? Your canned reply will be something along the lines of them being fat or something. Nope.

Aaron Judge - physical specimen, torn oblique during a swing.
Stanton - specimen, bicep strain (probably during a swing)
Clint Frazier - specimen, ankle

I can go on, but I assure you all the following players are specimens, but yet are getting sidelined by in game demands. You wouldn't know what those are, since you never played, but I'd rather trot around for a few miles than throw 100 pitches or have a 10 pitch at bat against an MLB pitcher.

[midnightpulp]

Mid shamelessly moving the goalpost

Nobody said distance covered = athleticism, the original premise of this thread was simply distance covered in soccer. Only when mid's alt got shut down and it was shown that soccer has a higher distance covered per game/season compared to major american sports, especially Fattyball, that's when mid brought atheleticism into the conversation trying to save face

I never moved any goal posts. The soccer crew has used how much moving around there is in a sport to determine how athletic it is since this debate (that the soccer crew badly loses every time) began 4 years ago. If we're going by that logic, Usain Bolt is a ty athlete, and moves around less in a track season than a baseball player. Bolt has admitted to never running a mile. No one criticizes sprinters, like they do baseball athletes. I wonder why? Probably because the dads of the soccer crew (those born in America) forced their kids to play baseball, resulting in teary car rides home after you struck out for the 100th straight time. This is why the kids play soccer here during that age.

[Bynumite]

I never moved any goal posts. The soccer crew has used how much moving around there is in a sport to determine how athletic it is since this debate (that the soccer crew badly loses every time) began 4 years ago. If we're going by that logic, Usain Bolt is a ty athlete, and moves around less in a track season than a baseball player. Bolt has admitted to never running a mile. No one criticizes sprinters, like they do baseball athletes. I wonder why? Probably because the dads of the soccer crew (those born in America) forced their kids to play baseball, resulting in teary car rides home after you struck out for the 100th straight time. This is why the kids play soccer here during that age.

Your capitulation is duly noted

[apalisoc_9]

Name me a a REAL sport where you can be an MVP without dietary discipline?

I honestly think baseball is a virus in the american community. Think about it..

All these kids think they can be labeled as an athlete even if they eat all sorts of burritos and Burgers. Sad

[midnightpulp]

You can be an MVP in Baseball with Zero Dietary discipline.

Let that sink in for a moment...

No MVPs have been fat. But you can be the highest paid player in MalariaTrot with a girl's body



That isn't an athlete. It's a man preparing for gender reassignment surgery.

[midnightpulp]

Your capitulation is duly noted

Deflecting with one liners.

You set the goal posts (distance cover=athleticism). DoK shot that down. You're the ones scrambling for an out now.

[midnightpulp]

Name me a a REAL sport where you can be an MVP without dietary discipline?

I honestly think baseball is a virus in the american community. Think about it..

All these kids think they can be labeled as an athlete even if they eat all sorts of burritos and Burgers. Sad

No league MVP has been fat.

Shaq was at his peak when he was at his fattest and even admitted to having a diet and not working out .

Charles Barkley, too.