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    Didn't compare it, said check it out if you want good writing.
    That's a ing comparison, you mouth-breather.

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    Most casual fans I know of the series thought the episode was amazing and loved Arya killing the night king. One of them went as far as saying it was great storytelling. D&D know their demographic tbh

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    Most casual fans I know of the series thought the episode was amazing and loved Arya killing the night king. One of them went as far as saying it was great storytelling. D&D know their demographic tbh
    i think the story was poor but the execution was well done. i was tense throughout the episode.

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    What a stupid ing plan though.

    Send your light cav out first in a direct assault suicide mission. Countless military battles between you all and you don't know what light cavalry is for? All that effort uniting the Dothraki tribes and you throw them away?

    Put out very few obstacles outside your castle knowing you would be besieged by greater numbers. It's not like they didn't have the time.

    Put those few obstacles reeeeeally close to your own defenses so that the Wights face little resistance before they get to you. Brilliant!

    Barely use the dragons or catapults. Guess they were just for show...

    No wall defenses knowing the Wights will climb them. No dragonglass or fire on the walls?

    Using arrows to defend Bran in close quarters combat. What?

    Sticking all your non-fighters in the crypt with corpses knowing that they could be reanimated. Guess you idiots learned nothing from Hardhome?

    Bad plan was bad. Guess it made for good tv though.
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    What a stupid ing plan though.

    Send your light cav out first in a direct assault suicide mission.

    Put the obstacles reeeeeally close to your own defenses so that the Wights face little resistance before they get to you.

    Barely use the dragons or catapults.

    No wall defenses knowing the Wights will climb them.

    Using arrows to defend Bran in close quarters combat.

    Sticking all your non-fighters in the crypt with corpses knowing that they could be reanimated.

    Bad plan was bad. Guess it made for good tv though.
    im willing to overlook the stupidity of the dothraki plan just because that sequence was ing epic

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    im willing to overlook the stupidity of the dothraki plan just because that sequence was ing epic
    Was it though? They lasted about 30 seconds charging into a wall of blackness. I just sat there confused, tbh.

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    Was it though? They lasted about 30 seconds charging into a wall of blackness. I just sat there confused, tbh.
    everybody was all hyped. flaming weapons? perfect to defeat the dead. dothraki with cavalry have been shown to be great. there's some hope/confidence.

    and then silence. and the flames just slowly go away. nothing.

    it was ominous... i thought it played quite well

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    Yeah I thought the Dothraki scene was awesome. And who's to say they didn't take out a bunch of walkers on their way out?

    Worst moment of the night? That Night King smirk. WTF was that?

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    They really didn't take out many considering the number of Wights, and that's not their purpose anyway.

    Honestly, they probably just needed to save some cash so they had the Horde killed so they wouldn't need to care for the horses on set anymore.

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    dothraki cavalry would be pretty useless in a defensive position, also. you want the horses on the offensive because of their speed/power. they're useless standing still.

    showing bran in his warging state the entire time needed some payoff. was he really just spectating the battle with ravens? they showed him with his eyes rolled back at least 2-3 different times. all with no result. thought maybe he'd warg into one of the dragons or some . or try to run some interference against the night king. i guess he was just watchi

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    The light cav wouldn't be used for defense. You use them to pick off Wights from the sides and back once they've been bogged down in battle. I mean, Jon should know, considering the Knights of the Vale saved his ass in the very same way during TBoTB.

    With that said, I enjoyed the episode. Even if I was scratching my head the whole time...Just a shame to see that epic Horde go out in such a pointless manner.

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    The Dothraki charge served no purpose. When the defense of Winterfell was being planned, who thought it would be a good idea to take all the cavalry (I don't know why the Knights of the Vale weren't on horses or where Yohn Royce was this entire episode) and have them ride blindly to their deaths? They had NO dragonglass weapons at all, so they would have failed no matter what.

    D&D justified this by saying that they wanted a hope spot. Why? We all knew this entire episode would be a battle, so why put the hope spot at the beginning? Nobody thought the fight would end in 15 minutes, so leave that for midway point at the very least.

    I guess D&D just wanted the Dothraki out of the budget and didn't want to have to deal with them being in Westeros. The culture clash and political implications would be too much, so might as well kill them all off.
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    ^ Yep. Exactly my thoughts. Those horses practically eat your budget so it was probably in their best interest to get rid of them.

    Never expected it to come in such an utterly pointless and downright re ed way. Again, I liked the episode, but it's hard now to see any of the characters involved as anything but incompetent morons based on how they handled the battle.

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    The Dothraki charge served no purpose. When the defense of Winterfell was being planned, who thought it would be a good idea to take all the cavalry (I don't know why the Knights of the Vale weren't on horses or where Yohn Royce was this entire episode) and have them ride to their blindly to their deaths? They had NO dragonglass weapons at all, so they would have failed no matter what.

    D&D justified this by saying that they wanted a hope spot. Why? We all knew this entire episode would be a battle, so why put the hope spot at the beginning? Nobody thought the fight would end in 15 minutes, so leave that for midway point at the very least.

    I guess D&D just wanted the Dothraki out of the budget and didn't want to have to deal with them being in Westeros. The culture clash and political implications would be too much, so might as well kill them all off.
    you dont need dragonglass to deal with wights. fire would do the trick.

    during the excursion beyond the wall, most of the guys there were just using regular swords and were fighting off wights

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    They also put their armies in front of their single, pathetic trench . Once the trench is lit and all the survivors are in Winterfell, the survivors just stand around and have to be told to man the walls. Once they man the walls, they have no rocks, no oil, no fire, etc. I know D&D have a medieval battle strategists at their disposal, but they did not use them at all.

    you dont need dragonglass to deal with wights. fire would do the trick.
    Fire they did not have until Melisandre popped up. Nobody knew that Melisandre was coming, so the plan was to charge blindly into zombies with weapons that can't kill them.

    during the excursion beyond the wall, most of the guys there were just using regular swords and were fighting off wights
    False. Everybody but Thoros, Beric, Gendry and Jon was using dragonglass weapons. I've seen the episode multiple times and noticed dragonglass daggers, spears and axes.

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    Yeah remember it was Yorah who put down the wight bear when the hound went into pussy mode.

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    i think the story was poor but the execution was well done. i was tense throughout the episode.
    Oh I agree the episode production was great. The story has gone off the ing rails at this point. It’s just the writers catering to their base at this point, fan service. In fairness to them Fatty hasn’t even finished the next book after 10+ years

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    this is great explains it all!


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    next level

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    Bunch of ######s in this thread tbh. 10/10 episode imo. Arya was born to kill the night king tbh imo

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    F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? ing really? Wow.

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    F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? ing really? Wow.


    I came across one of my posts earlier and saw it was censored and wondered what I even said. Can’t remember saying something so egregious it needed to be bleeped.

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    F.a.g.g.o.t.s is censored now? ing really? Wow.
    is this the first word that spurstalk censored?


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