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    You do the troll thing. All. The. Time.

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    Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just own it.

    Don't be a hypocrite.

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    I don't do the troll thing. If someone wants to talk , I will usually oblige. What you're doing is definitely trolling, and you enjoy it because you're a malicious person. That's you.
    Dude trolling is litererally the ONLY thing you do. I haven't seen you actually engage in anything approaching debate more than a couple of times.

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    Dude trolling is litererally the ONLY thing you do. I haven't seen you actually engage in anything approaching debate more than a couple of times.
    Dude like literally I don't do the troll thing.

    Sorry dude.

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    Trump tariffs costing Americans $1.4 billion a month, have "no impact" on foreign exporters

    Trump's trade war means higher prices for American consumers,

    with no visible impact on overseas exporters


    https://www.salon.com/2019/03/26/trump-tariffs-costing-americans-1-4-billion-a-month-have-no-impact-on-foreign-exporters/

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    Dude like literally I don't do the troll thing.

    Sorry dude.
    Repeating the lie, even to yourself, isn't going to make it true the 9th time any more than the first time.

    You are patently incapable of doing anything but trolling.

    When it comes time to debate, whether it is for the magic fairy tales about magic man in the sky poofing the universe into existence using a spell, or what shape the earth is, or how ty the current president is for the country, you can't hang with any discussion.

    Just stop lying man, you're just embarassing yourself here.

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    Monumentally stupid. Trump is tripping off the deep end.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...mps-trade-wars

    About to get worse, just like climate change.

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    FWIW. I have a firm that does my marketing for me. I was feeling heavily oversold on soybeans. We talked about tariffs on southerns a few weeks ago and she replied it would be unfortunate (we all knew it was coming, US doesn't make anything worthwhile to China outside of Ag) but much needed in the long run. Her firm is one of the more successful ones and she is one of the better ones at that location.

    I saw a market experts story on it this morning, he brought up that no date was mentioned to enact the tariff and China has started they will continue to buy.


    So they just cut themselves a big coupon on the products they want to buy.

    2019 Is The Year Farmers Will Feel The Pain From Trump's Trade Wars
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjo...mps-trade-wars
    Soybeans were about $10.50 per bushel before Trump’s trade wars started. They fell substantially over the next two plus months to as low as $8.25 per bushel since China was a huge customer and decreased its purchases substantially. They somewhat recovered and were helped in December when Trump postponed additional tariffs. Their price has largely moved sideways since then but fell to a recent low of $8.85 per bushel on Friday.

    Forward selling soybeans looks even worse than corn. The CME doesn’t have soybean futures getting back to $9.25 until January next year. Unless there is a good upturn in price, soybean farmers will be in a world of hurt. For every $1 lower in the average price per bushel U.S. soybean farmers will see their revenue decrease by over $4 billion or about 10% of total revenue. Since costs don’t decrease, or at least very much, as revenue declines this lost revenue essentially drops to the bottom line.

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    Repeating the lie, even to yourself, isn't going to make it true the 9th time any more than the first time.

    You are patently incapable of doing anything but trolling.

    When it comes time to debate, whether it is for the magic fairy tales about magic man in the sky poofing the universe into existence using a spell, or what shape the earth is, or how ty the current president is for the country, you can't hang with any discussion.

    Just stop lying man, you're just embarassing yourself here.
    ^That's 2+ years of MUH RUSSIA talkin'

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    ^That's 2+ years of MUH RUSSIA talkin'
    That's a troll post.

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    That's a troll post.
    It was apropos for his vile diatribe.

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    It was apropos for his vile diatribe.
    It's a troll post.

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    It's a troll post.
    That's your opinion, and posting from a troll account isn't lending you an ounce of credibility.

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    When other posters do it, it's trolling; when you do it it's neutral description.

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    Trash's tariffs and trade war absolutely destroying the Chinese economy

    China economy: First quarter growth beats expectations at 6.4%

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47957685

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    TRUMP

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    I wonder who would "win" if Trump declared that the United States will no longer sell any American products directly to China or indirectly if that produce has more than 10% American made/manufactured/grown content.

    Additionally, the United Staes would no longer buy any products/produce made in China directly, or indirectly if the content has more than 10% Chain made/manufactured/grown content.

    If we are going to have a war, let's have a war.

    In that light, make it known that any Chinese military/spy vehicles closer to three nautical miles of US Naval/Air Force in inter national waters would be viewed as a hostile act and be shot from the sky, blow up in the water, or sunk beneath the surface.

    In other words..... 'um. They can't win a war with US and we and they know it.

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    Trash's tariffs and trade war absolutely destroying the Chinese economy

    China economy: First quarter growth beats expectations at 6.4%

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47957685
    ROFLMAO!

    You believe the Chinese? Just how stupid are you.

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    I wonder who would "win" if Trump declared that the United States will no longer sell any American products directly to China or indirectly if that produce has more than 10% American made/manufactured/grown content.

    Additionally, the United Staes would no longer buy any products/produce made in China directly, or indirectly if the content has more than 10% Chain made/manufactured/grown content.

    If we are going to have a war, let's have a war.

    In that light, make it known that any Chinese military/spy vehicles closer to three nautical miles of US Naval/Air Force in inter national waters would be viewed as a hostile act and be shot from the sky, blow up in the water, or sunk beneath the surface.

    In other words..... 'um. They can't win a war with US and we and they know it.
    The American people would lose, and lose badly, as would the Chinese people, as runaway inflation would erode standards of living. The rich, as always, would continue to profit.

    Such a statement as yours is only possible with ignorance of trade economics, no offense. I would highly recommend reading up a bit on it.

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    Stung by Trump’s Trade Wars, Wisconsin’s Milk Farmers Face Extinction

    The flagship industry in a pivotal swing state faces an economic crisis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/us/politics/trump-trade-war-wisconsin-dairy.html

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    Wisconsin dairy farms have been hit hard by Republican governance. Now there's 1,400 fewer of them

    At heart, it is an oversupply problem. Former (Republican) Gov. Scott Walker set a goal of overtaking (Democratic) California in milk production, for no particular reason other than personal pride and/or spite

    On top of that, the new Republican fury against immigrants—and, especially, the Trump administration's efforts against them—have dried up the supply of immigrant farm labor.

    And then came the Trump trade war. Trump's new tariffs meant to cut metals imports have resulted in a bevy of retaliatory tariffs. Among the most devastating to these particular farmers: a new 25% Mexican tariff on American cheese.

    The Times pegs expected lost farm revenue from dairy tariffs at about $16.6 billion

    —far above what Trump's one-check subsidies to farmers are even pretending to cover.

    Trump is still assuring farmers that his still-theoretical modifications to NAFTA will make all the current market pain worthwhile and then some.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/4/1854947/-Wisconsin-dairy-farms-have-been-hit-hard-by-Republican-governance-Now-there-s-1-400-fewer-of-them



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    The American people would lose, and lose badly, as would the Chinese people, as runaway inflation would erode standards of living. The rich, as always, would continue to profit.

    Such a statement as yours is only possible with ignorance of trade economics, no offense. I would highly recommend reading up a bit on it.
    Yeah, but what about ‘Murcia, Yeeehaaawww

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    Trump slams China on trade, says won't lose to Beijing

    U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday slammed China over its trade practices, saying the United States was losing billions to Beijing and vowing to protect American commerce as tension escalated following his weekend threat to hike tariffs.

    citing the trade deficit between the United States and China. “Sorry, we’re not going to be doing that anymore!”

    he would impose tariffs of 25 percent on $325 billion of Chinese goods “shortly,” which would essentially mean all goods imported from China into the United States would be blanketed by duties.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-trade-trump/trump-slams-china-on-trade-says-not-going-to-lose-to-beijing-idUSKCN1SC10V?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_so urce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed% 3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%2 9

    Trash's punishing of China caused China's 2018 GDP growth of 6.6%







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    You and me pay the tariff, Chris.

    It's a tax on us, laid by DJT, collected from US businesses, passed on to US consumers.

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