Avengers: Endgame

[spurraider21]

Did you even read my post? Why does it matter that other timelines will be ed up when Thanos is successfully defeated in one timeline? Who cares that other heroes will fail in other timelines when they are destined to fail anyway?

thanos isn't only defeated in one timeline. dr strange said he looked at 14 million possible futures, and in only one of them did the good guys win. every timeline still has that 1 in 14 million chance. its not like there are exactly 14 million timelines and only prime is the winner.

and good luck convincing those past versions. imagine captain america got a visitor from the future saying "oh my the way your timeline is ed anyway, so we're gonna go ahead and snatch up ironman and black widow, k thanks bye" and then cap just stands there having lost people close to him.

I am criticizing the time travel mechanics because they deserve to be criticized. Don't introduce time travel into the story, tell the audience that people can't be brought back from the dead, and then give no in-story justification why that is true.

yeah and why didnt dr strange just tell thanos that he has come to bargain? you can always nitpick decisions

we haven't seen the good guys actually have the ability to bring somebody else from the past to the current timeline. its a round trip. you send someone back, and then return that same person to prime. we dont even know if what you're suggesting is even possible/allowed given their rules. they send somebody back with pym particles and therefore are able to track them and re-summon them to prime

[spurraider21]

The movie makes zero sense and completely falls apart logically under the smallest bit of scrutiny. But it doesn’t matter, it’s a movie about talking raccoons and thunder gods, it’s not meant to be examined that deeply. The fan service is tons of fun. Better than Infinity War. Still the same boilerplate Marvel formula, for better or worse.

Even as a non fanboy, you have to respect their ability to go 11 years and 22 movies, keeping things consistently fun and reasonably coherent, and absolutely sticking the landing. It’s never been done before. Endgame should get the same congratulatory “you’re not even close to the best movie this year, or even in your own film series, but props for accomplishing the impossible” type Oscar sweep they gave to Return Of The King.

Will be interesting to see if they even try to top this in the next phase of films.

suspension of disbelief only goes so far though. like we can accept people have super powers and there are aliens, but if bruce banner gave birth to a peanut butter sandwich that wouldnt make sense at all and i wouldnt rationalize it as "oh well its a movie with super heroes"

[Thanos]

suspension of disbelief only goes so far though. like we can accept people have super powers and there are aliens, but if bruce banner gave birth to a peanut butter sandwich that wouldnt make sense at all and i wouldnt rationalize it as "oh well its a movie with super heroes"

Okay Philo

[lefty]

Stark was obviously to weak to withstand a snap, but he could have used 1 stone to neutralize Thanos and someone else would have cut Thanos’ arm or removed the gauntlet

[Chinook]

Stark was obviously to weak to withstand a snap, but he could have used 1 stone to neutralize Thanos and someone else would have cut Thanos’ arm or removed the gauntlet

You mean like how they could have just gone back to that part in IW where they were subduing Thanos and just cut his arm off with SB and gotten almost all the stones in one go?

[spurraider21]

You mean like how they could have just gone back to that part in IW where they were subduing Thanos and just cut his arm off with SB and gotten almost all the stones in one go?

well then...

[Trainwreck2100]

I am criticizing the time travel mechanics because they deserve to be criticized. Don't introduce time travel into the story, tell the audience that people can't be brought back from the dead, and then give no in-story justification why that is true.

How could they bring black widow back without ing over the timberline they took her from. She had to die for the soul stone

[cd021]

the time gps on his wrist, the same way they all got back after the initial heist

I missed that part. I thought he had just waited all those years until Stark's funeral to appear. He basically lived his life with Peggy then returned to the prime timeline moments after he had initially left.

That makes more sense than what I had thought. He still did royally up one timeline though and I still wanna know how he got that shield

[cd021]

How could they bring black widow back without ing over the timberline they took her from. She had to die for the soul stone

They couldn't, as far as I understand it.

[cd021]

the russo brothers in the Q&A made it pretty clear imo that he time jumped again to wind up on that bench. but yeah they executed that poorly for dramatic effect

Yeah, that confused me until I read the Q&A. They could've shown him wearing the time jump watch thingy to illustrate that he had jumped all the way back to the forties, lived with Peggy up until her death in 2016 then jumped back to the moment after he left the main timeline. That makes more sense than what I had thought.

[TDMVPDPOY]

captain cuck, the cuck game

[cd021]

what is weird for me, is that i was team cap all the way but the ending, although i can't begrudge him his right to be happy, tainted it just a tad. i actually became quite the stark fan in this film. what makes it harder is that peggy was just a crush, they hadn't even dated yet. if she had been his wife already, that would have been different for me. it's not as if he couldn't have been happy with someone else in this timeline. but i think the story was altered by evans decision to leave the franchise. they had to create a way for him to be out of the picture without killing him.

Chris Evans isn't done with the MCU, that's been confirmed. It's been rumored that he may appear in the Falcon and Winter Soldier series as a mentor for Falcon as the new CA.

Russo's also mulled the idea of a forth Cap movie set in the alternative timeline. Maybe that turns into a Disney+ series that follows Rodgers and Peggy and how he/they changed that timeline.

It seems evident that that will be the primary-alternative timeline, maybe the timeline where the mutants and the X-Men appear.

[rjv]

Chris Evans isn't done with the MCU, that's been confirmed. It's been rumored that he may appear in the Falcon and Winter Soldier series as a mentor for Falcon as the new CA.

Russo's also mulled the idea of a forth Cap movie set in the alternative timeline. Maybe that turns into a Disney+ series that follows Rodgers and Peggy and how he/they changed that timeline.

It seems evident that that will be the primary-alternative timeline, maybe the timeline where the mutants and the X-Men appear.

this is where a lot of critics go after the russos and marvel studio in that they will often point out that it seems as if much of the writing is done so that it can just generate more movies and more profit for the studio. my thinking is that most of these critics aren't familiar with the comic book genre because that's exactly what happens in the comic book world. heroes die, they have alternate versions of themselves, they come back from the dead, they go bad, they disappear and so on and so on. so if the door was left open for evans to come back, then that's just par for the course.

[Trainwreck2100]

Chris Evans isn't done with the MCU, that's been confirmed. It's been rumored that he may appear in the Falcon and Winter Soldier series as a mentor for Falcon as the new CA.

Russo's also mulled the idea of a forth Cap movie set in the alternative timeline. Maybe that turns into a Disney+ series that follows Rodgers and Peggy and how he/they changed that timeline.

It seems evident that that will be the primary-alternative timeline, maybe the timeline where the mutants and the X-Men appear.

They don't even have to do that they can deage him. Like what happened to ant man

[cd021]

this is where a lot of critics go after the russos and marvel studio in that they will often point out that it seems as if much of the writing is done so that it can just generate more movies and more profit for the studio. my thinking is that most of these critics aren't familiar with the comic book genre because that's exactly what happens in the comic book world. heroes die, they have alternate versions of themselves, they come back from the dead, they go bad, they disappear and so on and so on. so if the door was left open for evans to come back, then that's just par for the course.

Cap just got old in Endgame so he didn't die, people or critics shouldn't be surprised if he return. It would be sort of weird if he didn't now, Old cap is a thing in the comic, as is Falcon-CA, Viking looking Thor and Cap wielding Thor's hammer and saying "Avengers, Assemble".

[Blake]

this is where a lot of critics go after the russos and marvel studio in that they will often point out that it seems as if much of the writing is done so that it can just generate more movies and more profit for the studio. my thinking is that most of these critics aren't familiar with the comic book genre because that's exactly what happens in the comic book world. heroes die, they have alternate versions of themselves, they come back from the dead, they go bad, they disappear and so on and so on. so if the door was left open for evans to come back, then that's just par for the course.

I don't care how much money they make as long they produce a quality product. And they do.

They could plunk money into these movies and bust just the same a la DC.

[lefty]

[Trill Clinton]

Movie was fire but now its time to give us the GOAT villain, Dr. Doom

[lefty]

Movie was fire but now its time to give us the GOAT villain, Dr. Doom

MCU Dr Doom should be awesome

[tlongII]

[Blake]

MCU Dr Doom should be awesome

I'd love if they gave him his own movie tbh

[lefty]

I'd love if they gave him his own movie tbh

I’ve been thinking the same

A solo origin movie to introduce him, where he wouldn’t be a villain, then in later movies he would become one

[FrostKing]

Isn't Black Panther already the villain?

[Spurminator]

I usually get hung up on logical inconsistencies and plot holes in films involving time travel, but I found it very easy to just go with the flow on this one.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I usually get hung up on logical inconsistencies and plot holes in films involving time travel, but I found it very easy to just go with the flow on this one.