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    rightwingnutjobs are so ing stupid, ignorant, cheering for the Repugs and getting screwed

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    You and me pay the tariff, Chris.

    It's a tax on us, laid by DJT, collected from US businesses, passed on to US consumers.
    Chris stopped caring about anything other than posting pro-regime propaganda a long time ago. You are casting pearls before swine here.

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    Chris stopped caring about anything other than posting pro-regime propaganda a long time ago. You are casting pearls before swine here.
    I don't expect Chris to acknowledge his bull , lies and propaganda, but maybe others will.

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    Trash played by NK and CN, they are laughing at his simplistic bullying that's costing American $10Bs in import-tax price rises

    Exclusive: China backtracked on nearly all aspects of U.S. trade deal - sources

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-backtracking-exclusiv/exclusive-china-backtracked-on-nearly-all-aspects-of-u-s-trade-deal-sources-idUSKCN1SE0WJ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_so urce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed% 3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%2 9

    So what's Trash's "trade wars are easy to win" response? Hurt Americans even more.

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    Trump Denies Tesla Tariff Exemption For Autopilot ECU


    https://cleantechnica.com/2019/05/05/trump-denies-tesla-tariff-exemption-for-autopilot-ecu/

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    I don't expect Chris to acknowledge his bull , lies and propaganda, but maybe others will.
    Nah. Seems like that train left a long time ago for the current cast of charactors. Kudos for you on trying though.

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    I still say these tariffs are ing stupid.

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    I still say these tariffs are ing stupid.
    takes one to know one

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    takes one to know one
    you like the tariffs?

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    you like the tariffs?
    At this point, I have come to grudging " it, let's take the hammer to them, if it will force them to finally do something about intellectual property theft".

    I know the damage it is going to do, but we have been nice, and this one case I think Trump has the balance of power calculus right.

    Yeah, you read that right. It is a Trump policy that I halfway support.

    Problem is that Trump has so isolated us from our allies, even this will get ed up, since we aren't doing it in sync with the EU or other trading blocks. A half-good idea, executed poorly.

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    The US war on Mexican tomatoes has begun and consumers will pay

    After 22 years, the US Department of Commerce just terminated the Tomato Suspension Agreement, which governs fresh tomatoes from Mexico.

    With the trade deal’s end on May 7 comes a 17.5% tariff on the fresh fruit,

    a tax that will likely be passed on to American consumers.


    More than half of tomatoes sold in the states come from Mexico.

    The popular fruit is the nation’s largest agricultural export to the US. Some American farmers argue that Mexican tomatoes have been so successful in the US partly because their neighbors violate the countries’ trade agreement.

    withdrew its agreement with Mexico at the request of “representatives of the domestic tomato industry.”

    It did not specify who those representatives were, but the pressure is most likely coming from Florida.

    The state grows the most tomatoes in the US, followed by California and Ohio, and local cultivators and politicians have been vocal about their displeasure with Mexican tomato farmers.

    the Florida industry is in an existential crisis,”

    https://qz.com/1614050/the-us-war-on...mers-will-pay/

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    Remember? junk food chains pay for FL's tomato pickers

    Burger King Resists Pay Increase for Tomato Pickers

    https://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=89750307

    FL tomato pickers are obviously stealing jobs from Americans, right?

    And of course, the tariff revenue to the govt will go to pay down the massive deficit caused by the Repug tax scam that enriched the billionaires who own the junk food chains.

    btw, I don't think any fresh food has a profit margin of 17.5%, which is why BigFood MUST "add value" by heavily processing (aka killing) food into non-fresh, packaged food.

    Repugs always putting citizens preferences first.





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    I still say these tariffs are ing stupid.
    The Curious Case of the Vanishing Economists

    olitico reports that a whole lot of economists are quitting the US Department of Agriculture due to -- BIG SURPRISE -- the hostile tone toward expertise set by the Trump administration. Top administration officials are pissed off that several reports from the agency's Economic Research Service (ERS) haven't cast Trump policies -- especially his trade wars and tax policies -- in a sufficiently flattering light. In response to the perception they're facing retaliation, ERS economists are skedaddling for private industry at a rate that's much higher than normal turnover, including six economists who all quit on the same day last month.
    https://www.wonkette.com/agriculture...ood-economists


    Your president's administration has, to a shocking degree, has placed political correctness over data and science in every part of the government where the two are important.

    Feel free to criticize this at any time, and demand better.

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    political correctness over data and science
    incompetent political hacks, stooges. there't nothing "correct" about perverting govt

    Perry and Repugs did, and do, the same purging of competence in TX.

    No doubt, all Repug state govts have done, are doing the same.

    St Ronnie signalled the oligarchy's strategy: "govt IS the problem" (for the oligarchy) so destroying good govt with oligarchy's kakistrocrats is the strategy.

    Dramatically, blatantly displayed by the oligarchy's kakistocrats handed to Trash for his Exec.

    America is ed and un able.

    Hard and long to build a nation, but easy and fast to destroy it.

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    Trump's trade war: Where American workers are hit hardest




    https://www.axios.com/trumps-trade-w...8b87a93c8.html

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    U.S. Customs agency issues tariff increase notice, allows grace period

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection said on Thursday it

    would begin collecting a 25 percent tariff on a $200 billion category of Chinese imports at 12:01 a.m. EDT (0401 GMT) on Friday,

    the final step toward activation of President Donald Trump’s planned tariff increase.


    But a spokeswoman for the agency said the increase to 25 percent from 10 percent for over 5,700 product categories could still be stopped if the Trump administration orders a halt before midnight.


    The guidance notice published on CBP’s website also allows for a grace period for U.S-bound cargoes already in transit or departing in the next few hours.

    Affected goods cargoes that have left China before 12:01 a.m. EDT on Friday will be considered exported to the United States and subject to the lower, 10 percent duty rate, a CBP spokeswoman confirmed.


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    Well, get ready to pay more for everything you buy.

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    Well, get ready to pay more for everything you buy.
    Thanks for the tip.

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    Thanks for the tip.
    You should thank Donald Trump. In his sagacity, things are better this way.

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    You should thank Donald Trump. In his sagacity, things are better this way.
    Cheaper isn't always better. I'm all for it.

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    Cheaper isn't always better. I'm all for it.
    You're all for paying more for the same cheap stuff?

    Why?

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    If it helps protect, retain, or create jobs in the US, why wouldn't you?

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    If it helps protect, retain, or create jobs in the US, why wouldn't you?
    Have they done any of that?

    The only result I've seen is that we've borrowed more money from China to give handouts to farmers who can't sell to China.

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    Grizzly machines has added a line item to their on-line prices showing how many $$$ Trash's bull has added to their imported products' prices.

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    If it helps protect, retain, or create jobs in the US, why wouldn't you?
    Because it costs us collectively more than any benefit a few of us would get.

    The estimated cost of the jobs created so far in on the order of 800,000 each, if memory serves. It is basically taxing everybody in the country and giving that money to the people whose jobs are created. Which is why Republicans tend not to like tarriffs.

    It is funny watching the gutless cowards in the GOP go along with it though.

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    Have they done any of that?

    The only result I've seen is that we've borrowed more money from China to give handouts to farmers who can't sell to China.
    There is that. For ever US job that might be created... is offset by jobs lost through retaliation. Every loses.

    (shrugs)
    On the whole, if we can finally force China to do something about our long-standing concerns of intellectual property, it might actually be worth it. Not holding my breath. Such theft is part of their overall strategy, so I view it as unlikely to change.

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    money from China to give handouts to farmers who can't sell to China.
    China holds only about $1T of US national debt

    https://www.google.com/search?q=chin...hrome&ie=UTF-8



    most US debt is held by Americans

    https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-...l-debt-3306124
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