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    Yeah, but we do playoffs at a 91% rate.

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    we don't do AIDS neither

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    As long as we're here, I seem to recall that LeBron, playing for the Fakers, lost 3 out of 4 to a wombat.

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    In all honesty (yes I'm biased) the small sample of sitting and watching him play I don't see him fighting through screens anymore. He poaches passing lanes less frequently. That may be design so he doesn't take shots to the quads like he did in SA. Trying to preserve what's left of his legs now.
    The amount of times he hasn't gotten back in transition this season as well & gives up open shots. I mean at some point there's always a trade off. You can't score 40ppg & lock someone down on the other end while always getting back in transition.

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    Reading comprehension, do you have it? I've stated one thing Kawhi allegedly did, which was backed up by multiple sources in the media and came to fruition when Kawhi was ultimately traded for pennies on the dollar. This actually happened, and was actively harmful to the Spurs.

    As to "shots the entire time", Parker said his injury was "1,000 times worse". Pop said "you'd have to ask his group". Manu said "we need to move on and stop letting the media make us believe he's coming back." This also happened, but was not actively harmful to Kawhi.

    So in my opinion, Kawhi is more in the wrong for actively harming the Spurs with the trade request because of, according to you, some "shots" the Spurs took in the media.

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    I see the bucks coming out the east. They look so good

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    I see the bucks coming out the east. They look so good
    They have a lot of length, play with great energy and have a lot of chemistry. I still can’t figure out how their offense is so good no matter how much I watch them though

    But man, has there been a more disappointing team than BOS? I mean, all that talent, all that balance, all that depth and all that hype. They played the regular season like they had won as much as GS and then Kyrie and Hayward are playing so, so bad vs MIL.

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    They have a lot of length, play with great energy and have a lot of chemistry. I still can’t figure out how their offense is so good no matter how much I watch them though

    But man, has there been a more disappointing team than BOS? I mean, all that talent, all that balance, all that depth and all that hype. They played the regular season like they had won as much as GS and then Kyrie and Hayward are playing so, so bad vs MIL.
    They did have a lot of hype and I never understood why. Lebron picked perfect time to leave the east. Giannis was about to dethrone him.

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    They did have a lot of hype and I never understood why. Lebron picked perfect time to leave the east. Giannis was about to dethrone him.
    I would not count out TOR or PHI. Both have lots of talent, can play great defense when engaged and Kawhi is playing better than Giannis.

    Even with Lowry coming up small and TOR bench shrinking, they are still a very capable team. PHI has a ton of real talent too.

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    They have a lot of length, play with great energy and have a lot of chemistry. I still can’t figure out how their offense is so good no matter how much I watch them though

    But man, has there been a more disappointing team than BOS? I mean, all that talent, all that balance, all that depth and all that hype. They played the regular season like they had won as much as GS and then Kyrie and Hayward are playing so, so bad vs MIL.
    Its so good because of dominant three point shooting and a dominant attacker to the rim.

    Thats an absurd combination. You're not doubling Giannis? Ok hes shooting 60%. Oh you're doubling Giannis. Say goodbye.

    It works because they swing the ball like 13 spurs.

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    Get ready for kawhi vs giannis

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    Get ready for kawhi vs giannis
    Bucks in 5.

    MIL is the perfect team. They're perfectly designed to beat toronto. Awesome help defense. They're desgined to stop superstars.

    They'll overhwhelm Tor.

    Problem with Toronto its all Kawhi..Even if kawhi was 10 times better than Micheal Jordan its not going to work against modern offensive schemes.

    Yoi're not winning against MIL averaging 99 pts per series

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    Its so good because of dominant three point shooting and a dominant attacker to the rim.

    Thats an absurd combination. You're not doubling Giannis? Ok hes shooting 60%. Oh you're doubling Giannis. Say goodbye.

    It works because they swing the ball like 13 spurs.
    They have like 2 players that actually play (Mid and Brodon) that shoot over 37% from 3 . I dont think they are that good at 3. And Giannis is a beast, but like WB, you would think you could sag some, even with not doubling, and make things really tough.

    They do move the ball and even with mediocre shooting they have good spacing. They have enough shooting from their bigs too to be respectable but they aren’t a team full of a bunch of truly good shooters.

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    Bucks in 5.

    MIL is the perfect team. They're perfectly designed to beat toronto. Awesome help defense. They're desgined to stop superstars.

    They'll overhwhelm Tor.

    Problem with Toronto its all Kawhi..Even if kawhi was 10 times better than Micheal Jordan its not going to work against modern offensive schemes.

    Yoi're not winning against MIL averaging 99 pts per series

    Everyone all year was going off about how good and deep TOR was. Now? It’s just Kawhi? If that is the case, and Kawhi bolts, TOR is in such big trouble it’s not even funny.

    They dont attract FA even with money, they don’t have a first round pick and going from a playoff team to lottery team is a big deal.

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    Celtics would of been better off with Kawhi even on a 1yr rental.

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    Celtics would of been better off with Kawhi even on a 1yr rental.
    For all the props Ainge gets (he deserves some, not all though) he blew it with not getting Kawhi. Just an all time stupid decision.

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    They have like 2 players that actually play (Mid and Brodon) that shoot over 37% from 3 . I dont think they are that good at 3. And Giannis is a beast, but like WB, you would think you could sag some, even with not doubling, and make things really tough.

    They do move the ball and even with mediocre shooting they have good spacing. They have enough shooting from their bigs too to be respectable but they aren’t a team full of a bunch of truly good shooters.
    37%? Thats irrelevant.

    Bledsoe, Lopez, Hill, Middleton, Mirotic are all quick release shooters. Even if most of them dont shot over 37% they only need one or two of these players to go ham. They're offensive schemes are top notch. Most spacing in the NBA not named warriors. And they do it with only one top 5 player.

    You cant just sag on Giannis. He doesnt take dumb shots. He just passess the ball back and resets.

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    Everyone all year was going off about how good and deep TOR was. Now? It’s just Kawhi? If that is the case, and Kawhi bolts, TOR is in such big trouble it’s not even funny.

    They dont attract FA even with money, they don’t have a first round pick and going from a playoff team to lottery team is a big deal.
    Because the Post season is a completely different animal. They also lost lots of depth when they got rid of Delon and OG is sick. They cant play Vanfleet because hes 5'7. So thats half of the so called "depth" they have.

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    37%? Thats irrelevant.

    Bledsoe, Lopez, Hill, Middleton, Mirotic are all quick release shooters. Even if most of them dont shot over 37% they only need one or two of these players to go ham. They're offensive schemes are top notch. Most spacing in the NBA not named warriors. And they do it with only one top 5 player.

    You cant just sag on Giannis. He doesnt take dumb shots. He just passess the ball back and resets.
    It’s very relevant to my point. League average is 36% from 3 and they are below that. You said they had elite 3PT shooting.

    If a team doesn’t have good shooters, the gravity is lost some even with proper spacing. That’s why I made the comment I did about their offense. I know WHAT they do I just cant see why it’s so effective with the real lack of shooting they have all things considered.

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    Because the Post season is a completely different animal. They also lost lots of depth when they got rid of Delon and OG is sick. They cant play Vanfleet because hes 5'7. So thats half of the so called "depth" they have.

    OG was bad all season, so no loss there. TOR is in big trouble if its just Kawhi and that all their guys are only regular season good. Also, all the “it’s the playoffs” is revisionist because again all year, and even in the first round many were enamored with TOR build.

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    It’s very relevant to my point. League average is 36% from 3 and they are below that. You said they had elite 3PT shooting.

    If a team doesn’t have good shooters, the gravity is lost some even with proper spacing. That’s why I made the comment I did about their offense. I know WHAT they do I just cant see why it’s so effective with the real lack of shooting they have all things considered.
    Players dont just react based on some arbitrary number. What's more important than the % is that their players are all capable of going hot. Even if all of them shot 35%, thats more than enough to create an offensive scheme. They dont lack shooting far from it

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    OG was bad all season, so no loss there. TOR is in big trouble if its just Kawhi and that all their guys are only regular season good. Also, all the “it’s the playoffs” is revisionist because again all year, and even in the first round many were enamored with TOR build.
    Well its lowry, ibaka we're talking about here. They'll probably win against Phil but bucks is a much better team.

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    Players dont just react based on some arbitrary number. What's more important than the % is that their players are all capable of going hot. Even if all of them shot 35%, thats more than enough to create an offensive scheme. They dont lack shooting far from it
    That is some serious goalpost moving. There is a huge difference in “they have elite shooting” vs “lacking shooting”.

    The point was knowing the guys they have, it’s surprising to see their offense function so well. It was not a knock; it was an observation based on the real talent they do have.

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    Well its lowry, ibaka we're talking about here. They'll probably win against Phil but bucks is a much better team.
    I agree with you some; I still think TOR is better than just Kawhi, but man they are getting nothing. It also blows a huge hole, IMO, in the people who say the deal was good NO MATTER what.

    It was a worthy gamble, but there is a real downside too. Especially if they gave up their first rounder, one of the top 2 young talents (Jakob) and the rest of their youth isn’t any good.

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    It’s very relevant to my point. League average is 36% from 3 and they are below that. You said they had elite 3PT shooting.

    If a team doesn’t have good shooters, the gravity is lost some even with proper spacing. That’s why I made the comment I did about their offense. I know WHAT they do I just cant see why it’s so effective with the real lack of shooting they have all things considered.
    Quan y over quality.

    They might not have any elite 3pt shooter, but all their rotation players sans Giannis are threats. Compare that to the Spurs, who have, at least, 4 very good/elite three point shooters, but many times run lineups where 3 or even 4 out of 5 guys won't even stand behind the three pt line. There's a big difference in approaches there.

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