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    Pretty interesting. A lot of times, companies would rather have young new minds to mold vs getting someone that already has had experience in that field because of old habits that may go against on how they do things.

    I'm trying to think of what free agents spurs have signed in the last 20 years that has been successful. Off the top of my head
    -Brent Barry
    -Bruce Bowen
    -Boris Diaw

    Thats all i can think of, there was probably more. not sure lol

    But i don't see it as a necessarily bad thing that some of these players have a hard time fitting in. Its bad in the sense for future free agents. But at the same time, we have won more than other teams in the last 2 decades. So something in our system is good. But its definitely not for everyone.
    Yeah... Tim Duncan

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    But i don't see it as a necessarily bad thing that some of these players have a hard time fitting in. Its bad in the sense for future free agents. But at the same time, we have won more than other teams in the last 2 decades. So something in our system is good. But its definitely not for everyone.
    yeah but at the same time we haven't won anything without Duncan. Maybe a lot of that stuff doesn't work without the Big 3 around

    Tbf Danny might be the one guy that has a right to feel a little slighted by PATFO. I don't feel Pop ever truly embraced him. I get why Pop would never embrace him like he embraced the Big 3, but he never even embraced him the way he did Patty (a much lesser player). Danny was a vital cog of the '14 team and numerous other deep runs, did the Spurs a solid with his current contract, and seemed to genuinely love the Spurs and Big 3. I still remember how sad he seemed after the Clippers loss because his future (FA) and the future of Manu/Timmy (retirement) was uncertain.

    Yet Pop always coached him the hardest and dangled him in trade talks for years.
    I never understood why he treated Danny like his new punching bag. I mean yeah tough love got him to that level, but after 2013 he basically proved he belongs, so there was no need for that type of treatment afterwards

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    Stevens got rid of too many key players, ing the nucleus in the process.
    Also getting one B star like Hayward is not going to do a lot for your team.
    Also why does Brad need to win a ring this year to prove anything? Why hold him to that standard? There were years that we had tons of talent, but never made the finals

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    Also why does Brad need to win a ring this year to prove anything? Why hold him to that standard? There were years that we had tons of talent, but never made the finals
    My god shut up. He has to win something you can't keep coming up short in t e playoffs and be considered elite. Yes we missed out on championships a lot but Pop won a le in his second full year as coach none of your bull can change that fact. Stevens has to win something before he's considered the best.

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    Tbf Danny might be the one guy that has a right to feel a little slighted by PATFO. I don't feel Pop ever truly embraced him. I get why Pop would never embrace him like he embraced the Big 3, but he never even embraced him the way he did Patty (a much lesser player). Danny was a vital cog of the '14 team and numerous other deep runs, did the Spurs a solid with his current contract, and seemed to genuinely love the Spurs and Big 3. I still remember how sad he seemed after the Clippers loss because his future (FA) and the future of Manu/Timmy (retirement) was uncertain.

    Yet Pop always coached him the hardest and dangled him in trade talks for years.
    I agree . . . but he should also never forget what Mugen said. They gave him the platform to be the player he became. If he's bitter about the way things turned out, fair enough, but as I alluded to, say that in no uncertain terms.

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    My god shut up. He has to win something you can't keep coming up short in t e playoffs and be considered elite. Yes we missed out on championships a lot but Pop won a le in his second full year as coach none of your bull can change that fact. Stevens has to win something before he's considered the best.
    Bro... He has had am elite team for two years... Last year his best player was injured in the playoffs... NO ONE expected the Celtics to be that good last year... Stevens proved he is a pretty good coach... U don't have to win a championship to prove that... Larry Brown never won and ppl consider him top 5

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    Those girls are hot man
    Cutewizard playing both ends of court
    now?

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    Bro... He has had am elite team for two years... Last year his best player was injured in the playoffs... NO ONE expected the Celtics to be that good last year... Stevens proved he is a pretty good coach... U don't have to win a championship to prove that... Larry Brown never won and ppl consider him top 5
    My fellow West Indian brother Stevens is overrated period. I soured on Popovich a lot after the Denver series but he's still miles better than Stevens.

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    To me Nurse looks out-coached almost every night.

    Danny’s saying the right things trying to ink a big deal. Good for him.
    Kind of my thoughts exactly. I've watched a few of the Toronto games this season and have come away more than less than impressed with Nurse. On a side note, it's been hard to listen/watch Nurse's interviews as he is so desperate to bow to Kawhi in an effort to get Kawhi to resign. There is a very interesting paradigm in Toronto.

    Pop has shortcomings and can be stubborn to all , but I would take him any day of the week over Nurse. Beware of flavors of the week. It's hard to believe people here actually believe Nurse is a good head coach with virtually no sample size. All season long posters on this site have complimented the assembly of the Raptors roster, from their talent down to their depth. Now the playoffs have rolled around and no one in Toronto outside of Kawhi has been consistently effective. Lets see how this 2-2 series plays out before we crown Nurse the master of chess.

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    So is Kerr... And look where he is at
    Give an example of Kerr being old school, belt using, get the best out of you father. Kerr is very much a players coach.

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    Eternal Rule #1 -- An NBA player will always favor his current coach over his ex-coach (for obvious reasons).

    Read no more into any of this than that.
    This. What did the media expect Green to say about Nurse? I'll take Pop over Nurse any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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    All good, just don't forget who made you though tbh. He'd be dancing in layup lines somewhere in Lithuania if it weren't for the Spurs.

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    LDN, do you mean the freedom to make stupid ing fouls in the last seconds of the 4th quarter, like this?:


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    Why are you guys offended by this?

    They asked him to compare Pop and Nurse, what is he going to say? He didn't insult Pop, Green has had huge praise for Pop whenever he's mentioned in Canadian media..

    Pop IS a dictator-type, it's his style, we all know this..

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    Also why does Brad need to win a ring this year to prove anything? Why hold him to that standard? There were years that we had tons of talent, but never made the finals
    ???
    Thats how things work, you go to the conference finals and then Celts fans expect to play the Finals.
    He had the tools, got rid of them and ruined everything.

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    ???
    Thats how things work, you go to the conference finals and then Celts fans expect to play the Finals.
    He had the tools, got rid of them and ruined everything.
    What tools, he has the same team as last season with two great additions. No significant tool was let go, none.

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    Give an example of Kerr being old school, belt using, get the best out of you father. Kerr is very much a players coach.
    Kerr is a clown, as much as Luke Walton, they had a team that was perfectly assembled (not by them).
    And then Walton exposed his skills in LA.
    Kerr sucks so much as a coach, his worst was the 2015 Finals, GS played like a HS team shooting without any kind of sense bricking everywhere, he was the mastermind behind that turd.
    They won only because Irving got injured, not even refs were going to save them.

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    Terrible last few days for Popsuckers tbh.

    Kawhi is playing like Jordan. Budenholzer is the best coach in the league. Green dropping hiroshima bombs.

    People hated on Stephen Jackson when he said Pop didn't give a what you thought unless you were the Big 3. That Big 3 now is Mills, Forbes, and Derozan. Not once this season did Pop give them the tough treatment. He babied them. Clapped like a seal when they would chuck up the stupidest of shots. Licked their balls and fluffed them up to the media. Mills is the best teammate ever, Derozan is our closer, Forbes can be Curry lite. Meanwhile guys like Poeltl and White had to watch Mills and Gasol finish games for the most part of the season.
    TGY dropping nukes.

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    What tools, he has the same team as last season with two great additions. No significant tool was let go, none.
    Thomas, Olynyk, Bradley, Crowder where very important.
    Also last season was fool´s gold anyway, Bucks were (44 win team) and Sixers were a train wreck.
    Today those teams are very different, dont think so?
    Look how Bucks are stomping them now.

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    yeah but at the same time we haven't won anything without Duncan. Maybe a lot of that stuff doesn't work without the Big 3 around



    I never understood why he treated Danny like his new punching bag. I mean yeah tough love got him to that level, but after 2013 he basically proved he belongs, so there was no need for that type of treatment afterwards
    It’s Pops mind rape control tactics. It’s how he makes everyone else submit. He always has to have one player on the team that he constantly berates in public, yanks at the slightest random missed assignment, etc. Now it’s Bertrans. Sure he yells at other guys, but there’s always one guy who gets the brunt of his wrath, even when his pets are missing assignments left and right. Danny was that guy for YEARS. Pathetic.

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    Terrible last few days for Popsuckers tbh.

    Kawhi is playing like Jordan. Budenholzer is the best coach in the league. Green dropping hiroshima bombs.

    People hated on Stephen Jackson when he said Pop didn't give a what you thought unless you were the Big 3. That Big 3 now is Mills, Forbes, and Derozan. Not once this season did Pop give them the tough treatment. He babied them. Clapped like a seal when they would chuck up the stupidest of shots. Licked their balls and fluffed them up to the media. Mills is the best teammate ever, Derozan is our closer, Forbes can be Curry lite. Meanwhile guys like Poeltl and White had to watch Mills and Gasol finish games for the most part of the season.
    I pray that the younger management don’t want to run a loyalty factory and don’t support mediocrity

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    Pop is probably the greatest coach of all time. Everyone else being mentioned are likely to be forgotten in a few years by everyone but "the truck".

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    Pop is probably the most overrated coach of all time because of Tim Duncan.
    Fixed it for you.

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    There's also a really good chance if it wasn't for Pop Danny Green wouldn't still be in the league and he probably wouldn't have made the money he's made.

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    LDN, do you mean the freedom to make stupid ing fouls in the last seconds of the 4th quarter, like this?:

    At least he fouled, tbh . . . . . . . . . . . .

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