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Players like Lou Williams (Boobie Gibson level 12 years ago) are having career playoff performances in today's YMCAball. If you can't see how the game has been easier for perimeter chuckers, I can't help you.
Aids was just talking about how KD reminds him of AI vs Kobe
Imagine comparing guys who shoot 50% at 30ppg
I still remeber those AI vs Kobe matchups where both would go for 10/30
Players like Lou Williams (Boobie Gibson level 12 years ago) are having career playoff performances in today's YMCAball. If you can't see how the game has been easier for perimeter chuckers, I can't help you.
exaggerate much?
Comapring tonthe indeed
Keep in mind that hand checking was allowed prior to 2004, which made everything harder for perimeter players.
I'm not even a big AI fan but give him harden level of Ft's and he would be more efficient ...
and before analytics even if If AI could hit 30 foot 3's his coach would have told him not to ...
its a dumb comparison
AI was the GOAT at getting his shot off, the fastest and strongest pound for pound player, the Curry of his generation. He also moved off the ball just as well. Not an insult to compare anyone to him. He changed the game with sets played today like the Iverson cut.
Prime Abdul Rauf would routinely light up MJ, Stockton, Payton
Stern tbh
Abdul Rauf > Curry
Yup, when scores go from 78-76 to 125-120 in not that long of a period of time, relatively speaking, it has more to do with just the evolution of athletes.
People forget about the offensive rebound shot clock reset rule. It means teams can't just hold the ball, and encourages more chucking. And Moreyball...
Tired of this revisionist history. AI averaged 9+ FTAs for his career and over 11 twice.
We all saw KD's limitations in the Paul Pierce Era.
thats with old rules ... how many does he get now?
what about flopping era Manu?
I dont understand what your point is? because if youre saying he would have got even more FTA now it doesn't help your argument. Harden averages 8.5 FTAs for his career, and this season is his first averaging 11. So before he even hits his decline, AI averages more FTAs for his career.
This myth that 90s and 2000s players didn't live at the FT line is pure nostalgia.
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There are even people today that don't realize how much Jordan benefited from superstar callsask any Knicks or Pacers fan from that time..
Shame. Most casuals still rate AI over Harden.
Harden will forever be underrated. That one season turned him into a meme..
Don't forget the Heat (or the Suns, Sonics or Jazz).There are even people today that don't realize how much Jordan benefited from superstar calls
Jordan is the most ref protected player in the history of the NBA and it’s not even close
Kobe somewhat close, tbh.
Don't forget how the league repeatedly changed the rules to pad DK's stats and make it easier for him to win. They even shortened the three-point line to inflate his career 3PT%There are even people today that don't realize how much Jordan benefited from superstar calls
You can always tell when someone's a casual fan from how they buy into the myths about how "tough" the '90s were.
not really tbh
kobe and lebron are two guys that definitely didnt get near the benefit mike got, they arguably didnt even get protected as much as kd, harden, steph and wade (prime)
Agreed but not sure about Steph
Sure his team gets away with a lot of illegal screens but Steph is constantly getting pushed around with no calls
Apparently, you are arguing something completely different.
I never said AI didnt get Ft's he earned them by driving to the paint.He never had to flop for them.
Harlem is right MJ, AI etc ALL got superstar calls. been that way since teh 80's and is that way today.
All i am saying is that if AI drove like he did in his prime and fouls were called like today (this is not even about Harden giannis went 17 times the other night)
AI would get even more FT's but because the rules/officiating is different, we shouldn't compare them.
Based on his history i dont think AI would have adapted to modern NBA from a 3 ball/analytics perspective tbh
But ... again he would benefit huge from the spacing, lack of bigs and lack of handchecking and the even more Ft's
and I dont even like Bubba chuck all that much ...
comically bad take ... I didnt even have to refute it NEO did ...
But he was a star so of course he got calls. they all do
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