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    Why do you keep deleting the direct quotes I post from Mueller’s report?
    Because it got repe ive, and a little pitiful.

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    Nadler’s subpoena is asking Barr to ignore the law on the books.
    Trump would face obstruction charges if he wasn't president, prosecutors say
    Hundreds of former federal prosecutors – and counting – signed an open letter published on Monday expressing their belief that Donald Trump would have faced “multiple felony charges of obstruction of justice” if he were not president.

    Multiple aspects of Trump’s conduct described in a report of the Trump-Russia investigation submitted in March by special counsel Robert Mueller were probably criminal, the prosecutors write. Mueller had declined to weigh whether to charge Trump, citing justice department guidelines prohibiting the indictment of a sitting president.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ecutors-letter


    It's in the other part you didn't read.

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    The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.

    In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen do ents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.

    That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and ins utions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.

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    Why do you keep deleting the direct quotes I post from Mueller’s report?
    Also, because you left out other important quotes.
    The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office’s judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and information — such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be members of the media — in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See, e.g., Justice Manual §§ 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or “taint”) team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well — numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and do ents were held outside the United States.

    Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign — deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

    Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.
    Kind of important caveats, but not ones you would trouble yourself with, because you are attempting to be actively dishonest.

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    Also, because you left out other important quotes.


    Kind of important caveats, but not ones you would trouble yourself with, because you are attempting to be actively dishonest.
    trump was willing to talk to putin about mueller

    trump was UNwilling to talk to mueller about putin

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    Volume 2: Obstruction Inquiry

    A good HEAT map at
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/obstruct...eport-heat-map

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    Barr contempt vote heading to House floor

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    Barr contempt vote heading to House floor
    Can't wait for what happens to Mnuchin. That is actionably criminal.

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    So it was bad when Congress held Holder in contempt?

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    Because it got repe ive, and a little pitiful.
    You said you were going to provide plenty of collusion material to work through. You’ve provided so far, it’s pitiful.

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    You said you were going to provide plenty of collusion material to work through. You’ve provided so far, it’s pitiful.
    E. Efforts to fire Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 87): Former White House Counsel Don McGahn is a “credible witness” in providing evidence that Trump indeed attempted to fire Mueller. This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.”

    Nexus (p. 89): “Substantial evidence” indicates that, at this point, Trump was aware that “his conduct was under investigation by a federal prosecutor who could present any evidence of federal crimes to a grand jury.”

    Intent (p. 89): “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]”
    Sure. I will deviate a bit from pointing out the quotes you seem to be ignoring.

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    You said you were going to provide plenty of collusion material to work through. You’ve provided so far, it’s pitiful.
    So first, let's get what the investigations showed the Russians were doing.

    The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion. Evidence of Russian government operations began to surface in mid-2016. In June, the Democratic National Committee and its cyber response team publicly announced that Russian hackers had compromised its computer network. Releases of hacked materials—hacks that public reporting soon attributed to the Russian government—began that same month. Additional releases followed in July through the organization WikiLeaks, with further releases in October and November.

    In late July 2016, soon after WikiLeaks’s first release of stolen do ents, a foreign government contacted the FBI about a May 2016 encounter with Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopoulos. Papadopoulos had suggested to a representative of that foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.

    That fall, two federal agencies jointly announced that the Russian government “directed recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and ins utions, including US political organizations,” and, “[t]hese thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process.” After the election, in late December 2016, the United States imposed sanctions on Russia for having interfered in the election. By early 2017, several congressional committees were examining Russia’s interference in the election.

    Within the Executive Branch, these investigatory efforts ultimately led to the May 2017 appointment of Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III. The order appointing the Special Counsel authorized him to investigate “the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign.

    As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian en y carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against en ies, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen do ents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign...the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts...

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    You said you were going to provide plenty of collusion material to work through. You’ve provided so far, it’s pitiful.
    So we have our standard here.

    secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
    Russian efforts were clearly designed to cheat and deceive others. The hacking attempts, social media campaigns and so forth.

    So you have the first bit, pointed out to you repeatedly.
    The presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump (“Trump Campaign” or “Campaign") showed interest in WikiLeaks’s releases of do ents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton. Beginning in June 2016, [redaction]■ forecast to senior Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton. WikiLeaks’s first release came in July 2016. Around the same time, candidate Trump announced that he hoped Russia would recover emails described as missing from a private server used by Clinton when she was Secretary of State (he later said that he was speaking sarcastically). [

    redaction]■ WikiLeaks began releasing Podesta’s stolen emails on October 7, 2016, less than one hour after a U.S. media outlet released video considered damaging to candidate Trump. Section III of this Report details the Office’s investigation into the Russian hacking operations, as well as other efforts by Trump Campaign supporters to obtain Clinton-related emails.
    Here you have Russia, working through its proxy to secretly inform the Campaign about the wikileaks dump. This is precisely why Trump all of a sudden doesn't know anything about wikileaks.

    The secret communication between the campaign and the Russians to cheat the election through its hacking efforts.

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    So we have our standard here.



    Russian efforts were clearly designed to cheat and deceive others. The hacking attempts, social media campaigns and so forth.

    So you have the first bit, pointed out to you repeatedly.


    Here you have Russia, working through its proxy to secretly inform the Campaign about the wikileaks dump. This is precisely why Trump all of a sudden doesn't know anything about wikileaks.

    The secret communication between the campaign and the Russians to cheat the election through its hacking efforts.
    you shifted the goalposts and still failed

    Wikileaks never secretly informed anyone on Trump's campaign about their upcoming dump. I've posted the Corsi Statement of Offense drafted by Mueller stating Corsi was lying when he told Stone he had a secret back channel to Wikileaks multiple times for you, do you just ignore it? Here it is again. Read the last sentence.

    https://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...-offense/3324/

    There was no collusion with Russia. There was no collusion with Wikileaks. Mueller confirmed all of this you stupid .

    You are really embarrassing yourself now and should just log off for a few weeks and regroup. You've got the worst case of TDS this board has ever seen. You've completely lost it

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    ^ proof that cultists can be shown direct confirmed evidence of their cult hero’s crimes-


    and they still refuse to believe “their lying eyes”

    waste of time

    tsa- just drink the poison please

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    6th week of the COVERRR UPPPP!


    Crumbling slowly -

    The White House, GOP, AG all involved in a direct cover up or at the very least - aiding and abetting this cover up.

    Never thought I would see this in the USA - on this scale.


    Historic.


    But it always comes out - always.


    The Truth - that is.

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    6th week of the COVERRR UPPPP!


    Crumbling slowly -

    The White House, GOP, AG all involved in a direct cover up or at the very least - aiding and abetting this cover up.

    Never thought I would see this in the USA - on this scale.


    Historic.


    But it always comes out - always.


    The Truth - that is.
    ... is what happens when a party is purged of all moderates, has d itself totally to the oligarchy as it priority.

    customs, good faith, history, conventions, laws, protocols, rules, everything is secondary to Capitalistic oligarchy's preferences, which are totally incompatible with democracy.
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    White House Is Afraid That Mueller Will Talk

    Maddow said,

    “Just as the White House and Attorney General William Barr tried to shut down the Judiciary Committee’s path to access Mueller’s full findings and evidence.

    Tonight here opened up another path as the intelligence committee sends their subpoena as well. Right.

    So all of these different fights, all of these different subpoenas, all of these different confrontations, they are the same thing.

    It is trump versus Mueller’s investigation.

    And the apex concern that the president and the Trump White House and his helpers in this fight must have,

    the prospect that they must feel lurking under the bed ready to reach out and grab their ankles if they let a foot touch the floor, right,

    the gravest boogieman worry they’ve got to have right now has to be that

    Robert Mueller somehow, some way will be allowed to speak freely and for himself about his own investigation and

    his own findings in his own terms.

    Because this feels like we are going through this remarkable period in the news, right?

    It has been a six-week festival of freak-out, trying to stop Mueller from speaking in his own terms about his own work.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05...iticus+USA+%29

    Mueller is 74. He could resign, and Trash couldn't stop him from talking


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    White House Is Afraid That Mueller Will Talk

    Maddow said,

    “Just as the White House and Attorney General William Barr tried to shut down the Judiciary Committee’s path to access Mueller’s full findings and evidence.

    Tonight here opened up another path as the intelligence committee sends their subpoena as well. Right.

    So all of these different fights, all of these different subpoenas, all of these different confrontations, they are the same thing.

    It is trump versus Mueller’s investigation.

    And the apex concern that the president and the Trump White House and his helpers in this fight must have,

    the prospect that they must feel lurking under the bed ready to reach out and grab their ankles if they let a foot touch the floor, right,

    the gravest boogieman worry they’ve got to have right now has to be that Robert Mueller somehow,

    some way will be allowed to speak freely and for himself about his own investigation and

    his own findings in his own terms.

    Because this feels like we are going through this remarkable period in the news, right?

    It has been a six-week festival of freak-out, trying to stop Mueller from speaking in his own terms about his own work.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05...iticus+USA+%29

    Mueller is 74. He could resign, and Trash couldn't stop him from talking



    She has also been reporting - that they are trying to nail down some reporting that suggests that Mueller might not have ended the investigation on his own terms -

    that Barr (or someone - maybe Rosenstein)

    had something to do with the investigation ending. She reported that the day after Barr was confirmed - he met with Mueller and Barr made a comment saying "if you are not going to make a prosecutorial call - then you should not continue to investigate"


    so...sooner or later...the dam will break.

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    Remember when the House voted 420-0 to demand release of entire Mueller report?

    Yup, on March 14 of this year! The House voted 420-0 to demand that the entire Mueller report be released.

    From the New York Times story at the time:

    House Republicans joined Democrats on Thursday

    to demand that the Justice Department publicly release the full findings of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and the possible involvement of President Trump’s campaign.

    Though the resolution is nonbinding,

    Democrats who put it on the House floor are

    trying to build public pressure on Attorney General William P. Barr before the investigation’s anticipated conclusion.

    Far from standing in the way, Republicans joined Democrats en masse.

    On the 420-to-0 vote, four Republicans voted present.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/8/1856363/-Remember-when-the-House-voted-420-0-to-demand-release-of-entire-Mueller-report?detail=emaildkre


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