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Stephen Jackson still mad that Pop cut him a year before the 5th championship
Robinson? Reggie Miller?
And it looks promising north on I35 for OKC to keep RW. He just had another right knee cleanout, and is about to go into his SuperMax extension. No one will touch that contract.
Stephen Jackson still mad that Pop cut him a year before the 5th championship
We didn't trade Scola for Butler. We had to throw Scola in in order for Houston to take on Butler's contract. Can't even recall the bull Houston sent back.
Speaking of Houston bad trades, how about selling Vernon Maxwell "like a slave" to Houston for $50,000?
Rodman for Purdue? Who cares after Rodman threw that playoff series against Houston.
Derek Anderson trade was a wash.
What a pussy
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The fans just lose badly if this becomes the norm blowing off massive chunks of the reg season for this "Load MGT" .. The league better shorten the season (Never Happen) or put in place rules that medically you better be able to prove you got an actual injury to be sitting out 20 plus games a season. You can't just miss 20 plus games to rest..
Spurs fined $250,000 when a few guys didn’t take the crt tbh. One of the great threads in here tbh.
People are so phony. Like you stated before the crazy 9 game season Kawhi was balling in San Antonio and was 2nd in MVP voting twice. Its obvious Pop and the way the front office handles the media rubbed people the wrong way because everyone and their mom is coming out of the woodwork these last two seasons talking .
I wish Kawhi well and hope he stays in Toronto but if people are honest it was rumors before his team and the media used an injury as an excuse that he wanted to leave San Antonio. Jalen Rose reported he heard stuff as well as Chris Carter and Steven A. Smith
ESPN loved that he wanted to leave. They wanted him to go to the Lakers. They would've been on his harder than duncan2k5 if that had happened. That's why I'm glad Pop sent him to Toronto (even though the return could've been better). ESPN hates the Spurs and been waiting for our downfall since 2007. They want the Spurs to not make the playoffs so bad, which is why I'd love to shove it in their face all over again and win another le. Kawhi was the key to that. He's a generational talent and there were reports that PATFO said they view his importance to the franchise in the same light as Tim Duncan. He could've got them another 5 rings. Spurs were the clear cut 2nd best team of the regular season in 2016 and 2017. If Zaza doesn't happen we might've won that year. This franchise was very close to ring #6 and that while their franchise cornerstone retired. And they also just got their first big time free agent sigingin in Aldridge. All this team was missing was a 3rd option and with Murray and White emerging plus the addition of Gay you're basically right there.
That's why this is such a tragedy. Kawhi is one of the few hero ballers who's super efficient at hero balling. Any team he goes to he'll elevate. And more importantly he can lock down the opponents best perimeter player. That just gives you a huge advantage on both ends that puts you immediately at contender status if you surround him with the right supporting cast.
Now with the DeRozan trade it almost seems impossible to ring again. I just wish the Spurs would be more aggressive to get back to being a real contender. Not saying they should try to sign a big time free agent, but I wish Pop would go back to his old ways of the 2000s where when a player didn't perform in the playoffs, he'd get rid of him. They will need to strike gold in the draft again or fleece a team in a trade like they did with the Hill for Kawhi and Bertans deal.
Lol. You talk about his reason for leaving as though you know that to be fact. In fact, you know .
Some things are so obvious you should not do no matter what, some things are so obvious a mistake and stupid before you even do them, some things are unforgivable! I don't care that kawhi wanted out, Timmy at the time also wanted out and threaten to sigh with Magic cause he wasn't happy with some things, Pop succeed convince him to stay, probably Timmy got the promises that he wanted from the team, Pop and Spurs should treated kawhi the same but nowdays they so full of themselves, anyway they just couldn't trade him and sell the fans like that instead of running the situation to the death(at least getting another year of kawhi, one year which worth more than 5 Derozans), all just because Pop righteous ways and ego, this is unforgivable and just can't deny it(reminds you also game 6 and the most naive decision ever by a coach not fouling up by 3 last possession also because Pop righteous ways and ego and also unforgivable)...I have a history of openly admitting when things still hurt, tbh
Losing Nephew obviously sucks but, eh, welcome to the real NBA. Not all superstars are cut from the David Robinson and Tim Duncan cloth. Small market teams being able to keep a superstar for the duration of his career is an exception not the rule.
2013 hurt.
1995 hurt.
Ownership being too cheap to trade Terry mings and Willie Anderson for Charles Barkley hurt.
Elliott needing a kidney transplant right after the 1999 championship hurt.
Trading away a disgruntled superstar who stopped supporting his teammates and wanted out? Unfortunate but that's part of the NBA.
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Thanks to Return from Injury Management
Kawhi got on the Raptor's team plane with his new Fun Guy shirt and sold out Special Edition 997's.
i was mad when pop didnt play jax in that series against okc, he had a solid 4 swingman perimeter on his roster who could score and play above avg defense to keep the other honest on offense, and he didnt even know how t o utilize them properly...i think this was the season the spurs made wcf and loss to the okcrefs team...
Spurs traded the second coming of Michael Jordan for a known choke artist and a Stephen Adams lite.
Pop knew Kawhi’s generational talent. He was too egotistical and dictatorial to be flexible and allow some of Kawhi’s group’s requests/conditions.
If Pop had retired with Timmy I’m sure the next coach would’ve catered to more of his needs/wants, thus increasing the likelihood of Kawhi still being here.
The telling comment from SJax was that Kawhi felt like an outsider his first 2 seasons and the team did let all his closest teammates leave (CoJo, Simmons, SJax, Dedmon). The rumors that he wanted to leave were during the off-season after the team chose to overpay Patty and Pau and let Simmons and Dedmon go. So he didn't really have much of an attachment to the team from a personal aspect. When he was here it was the Big 3, the foreign crew and then the others.
When Kawhi walks to the Clippers, like has been the plan a year before the “sit out”, even though TOR is an ECF team that catered to him and can pay him more money, they will see this had nothing to do with Pop.
You might be able to lay some blame on SA, but any rational person without an agenda would have gotten past the Spurs “sins” especially with all the equity SA has built with Kawhi and every other player.
I doubt teammates deliberately froze him out and more so it was him not wanting to be close to any of those guys. I think in general #2 being a super introvert that he's going to be an outsider anywhere he goes. I really doubt he's close to any of his current Raptor teammates.
Hey the bulls signed Jack Hailey just to keep Rodman happy. Just sayin.
Him being a super introvert may have been a good reason to keep the people he was able to get close to around. Maybe not all of them but one or 2 guys wouldn't hurt. I get its a business but imagine seeing 2 of your closest teammates leave only to see Patty and Pau vastly overpaid. With the Raptors he's 100% close to Norm (both from socal and their moms are friends), and seemingly Ibaka and Lowry. If the Raptors were smart they would look into bringing CoJo back as well.
It doesn't justify how last season played out but maybe it would have been different if he felt like he was letting down friends he was close with instead of people who were just teammates.
I’m smart, you’re dumb. Get over it.
I’m smart, you’re dumb. Get over it.
It's just Basketball.
Ok, bye.
How can you attribute an NBA player who sat out the whole year, never cheered his team-mates in the playoffs, not invited to Manu Jersey Retirement night, the fault of an egoistic Coach?
Spurs traded him? I think it's more of Kawhi asking for the trade.. Spurs never wanted to trade him
I was thinking Westbrook, forgot about Reggie- Although I think RW is somewhat of a nique player and actually may not be a player that has as much FA value as one might think.
The Big O played in relatively small markets- but that was far form the modern age.
Definitely DROB.
However, these are the few exceptions
I still think of this trade
June 16, 1975: Traded by the Milwaukee Bucks with Walt Wesley to the Los Angeles Lakers for Junior Bridgeman, Dave Meyers, Elmore Smith and Brian Winters.
Or KD, Shaq leaving for nothing.
Jack is nothing more than a bitter little , with an overinflated sense of his basketball ability. He was a complete cancer his second tour here, and being cut by PATFO right before the playoffs was the kiss of death to his career.
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