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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    No standing around.

    They move the ball so well.

    Back to Back Finals. Championship. Curry looking like a top 5 player again with Durant out. Klay hitting clutch shots.

    One of the prettiest to watch. Ever. Please take your coattailing ass somewhere KD. The warriors dont need it. This is stephs team

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    Yep, they're by far the most fun team to watch without him..

    When you're as historically talented as Durant, how do you join a team that doesn't even need you?

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    Steph Curry is the greatest winner ever.

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    It's because Durant's game is midrange centric (43% of attempts from 10-22 feet). Midrange centric players kill offensive flow today, which is why I'm still not sold on Kawhi being as a good as advertised, despite the nice PPGs. His RPM was pretty low this season for the "next Michael Jordan." Kevin Durant, who had something of a career year, only ranked 11th in RPM, which I think is low for how good his raw stats are. I still don't think a team taking 38 threes in a game is "beautiful basketball," but when you remove midrange shots from a modern offense, it'll be more effective.

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    Klaw apalisoc_9's Avatar
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    It's because Durant's game is midrange centric (43% of attempts from 10-22 feet). Midrange centric players kill offensive flow today, which is why I'm still not sold on Kawhi being as a good as advertised, despite the nice PPGs. His RPM was pretty low this season for the "next Michael Jordan." Kevin Durant, who had something of a career year, only ranked 11th in RPM, which I think is low for how good his raw stats are. I still don't think a team taking 38 threes in a game is "beautiful basketball," but when you remove midrange shots from a modern offense, it'll be more effective.
    Midrange has its place in the game. The idea of having an elite midrange shooter stems from how defenses play. They largely ignore the midrange and just defend the 3 and paint.

    The whole idea behind it is being able to go back in transition by taking easy to get high% shots.

    You're a spursfans. This is how the spurs achieved top defense in the leonard era. This Golden State mentality with durant around.

    Im surprised you dont see this.

    The lack of ball movement is not because of the midrange shots. Its because of Durant.

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    It's because Durant's game is midrange centric (43% of attempts from 10-22 feet). Midrange centric players kill offensive flow today, which is why I'm still not sold on Kawhi being as a good as advertised, despite the nice PPGs. His RPM was pretty low this season for the "next Michael Jordan." Kevin Durant, who had something of a career year, only ranked 11th in RPM, which I think is low for how good his raw stats are. I still don't think a team taking 38 threes in a game is "beautiful basketball," but when you remove midrange shots from a modern offense, it'll be more effective.
    Houston shoots at least 38 3ptrs a game with virtually no midrange shots taken. How'd that turn out? Fishing early - again.

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    Houston shoots at least 38 3ptrs a game with virtually no midrange shots taken. How'd that turn out? Fishing early - again.
    So did Golden State . And they won the FT battle, not the midrange battle. They only made 2 shots outside of the paint vs. Houston's 2 shots.

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    Steph Curry is the greatest winner ever.
    Pretty sure Kobe can still blue pill his way to an erection. Don't be so quick to suck another just yet.

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    I was reluctantly rooting for the Warriors as it was but they are actually a fun team to root for without Durant. Curry is obviously the greatest shooter ever and probably the most dangerous player ever but his unselfishness is off the charts. I've never seen a superstar care less about getting the spotlight. When Durant is getting his beta shine and reveling in his own snark, Curry is legitimately happy for him. Draymond is probably a top ten leader ever and a genius on the defensive end. Klay is a rock solid secondary piece. Sure, he's kinda overrated but he might be the second best shooter ever, doesn't care about attention and his chill personality helps make it all work.

    And I'm happy for the legit Warriors fans out there. If that crowd-fueled Warriors team didn't beat the Mavs back in 2007, I'm not sure if the Spurs were going to beat the Mavs that year. Terrible matchup at the time.

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    Midrange has its place in the game. The idea of having an elite midrange shooter stems from how defenses play. They largely ignore the midrange and just defend the 3 and paint.

    The whole idea behind it is being able to go back in transition by taking easy to get high% shots.

    You're a spursfans. This is how the spurs achieved top defense in the leonard era. This Golden State mentality with durant around.

    Im surprised you dont see this.

    The lack of ball movement is not because of the midrange shots. Its because of Durant.
    It's the only areas of the court worth defending. Not sure I get the second point? Are you saying taking midrange shots is a high percentage option? It isn't. And it doesn't make defending transition easier since you're further away from the opponent's goal than if you were setting up at the 3 point line. Here's the shot chart from tonight's game. Warriors took a total of 11 shots outside of the paint.



    Here's Durant's shot chart from the last full game he played:



    He took 8 shots alone outside of the paint, with two more at just about the FT line.

    A midrange shooter stagnates the offense more because they reduce spacing and often generate their shots in isolation vs. off the pick and roll (a pick-and-roll starting out from the 3 point line gives the roll man much more spacing to work with). Midrange play is deader than disco. It's turned into more of a desperation play when all other options aren't there.

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    I have to admit I like this team better without Durant because you get to see a brilliant shooter in Curry shine without KD carrying the load for them. It will be interesting to see if Warriors can keep shooting this well vs either Blazers or Nuggets as this team has plenty of mileage on their bodys from all the Finals appearences.

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    Warriors not championship pedigree without Durant. OP taking his re pills.

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    As long as Kawhi stays healthy, I don't see GS beating Toronto. I think the Kawhi will get a chip this year.

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    As long as Kawhi stays healthy, I don't see GS beating Toronto. I think the Kawhi will get a chip this year.
    I dont even think Toronto can beat Philly in Toronto. Leonards supporting cast is an embarrasment

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    Poetic justice if GS wins the le without kD after he bandwagoned the 73 win team and stole all the glory including 2 finals MVPs from Curry

    He will lose all credibility for his 2 rings, not that anyone respects them much anyway, but now the lack of respect will be validated.

    Think about it, can he really be rooting for his team to win without him right now?

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    I have to admit I like this team better without Durant because you get to see a brilliant shooter in Curry shine without KD carrying the load for them. It will be interesting to see if Warriors can keep shooting this well vs either Blazers or Nuggets as this team has plenty of mileage on their bodys from all the Finals appearences.
    Also you get to see more "beautiful game" -ish plays without KD out there. Really impressive how they can just return to that style on a whim

    Oops just realized that was what OP's post was about

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    I hate donkey but he is so smart in the PnR.

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    Also you get to see more "beautiful game" -ish plays without KD out there. Really impressive how they can just return to that style on a whim

    Oops just realized that was what OP's post was about
    Yeah that's the most impressive part about it all. That they could go right back to that style of play without missing a beat even though they've had to play with a ball-dominant Durant the past three years.

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    Poetic justice if GS wins the le without kD after he bandwagoned the 73 win team and stole all the glory including 2 finals MVPs from Curry

    He will lose all credibility for his 2 rings, not that anyone respects them much anyway, but now the lack of respect will be validated.

    Think about it, can he really be rooting for his team to win without him right now?
    KD and Cousins are both set to return for the WCF. KD deserved a night off after the carry job in the first 10 games.

    GS only needed KD to close out games/series because Curry's notorious for coming up short in big moments. Warriors would have lost in 6 without Durant.

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    KD and Cousins are both set to return for the WCF. KD deserved a night off after the carry job in the first 10 games.

    GS only needed KD to close out games/series because Curry's notorious for coming up short in big moments. Warriors would have lost in 6 without Durant.


    Durant's ONLY value to the Warriors is that they needed him to beat LeBron..

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    I hate donkey but he is so smart in the PnR.
    I've been thinking the same... plus, he's listed at 6'7", but I'm pretty sure he's 6'6" at the very most, and possibly a hair under. To play that big a role-- offensively and defensively-- as a 6'6" PF is pretty impressive.
    Last edited by R. DeMurre; 05-11-2019 at 01:48 PM.

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    I've been thinking the same... plus, he's listed at 6'7", but I'm pretty sure he's 6'6" at the very most, and possible a hair under. To play that big a role-- offensively and defensively-- as a 6'6" PF is pretty impressive.
    And that's also why I bet Golden State picks Matisse Thybulle in the draft if he's available...

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    Durant's ONLY value to the Warriors is that they needed him to beat LeBron..
    Yup

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    Durant's ONLY value to the Warriors is that they needed him to beat LeBron..
    They didnt need him imho, 2016 Cavs = the biggest fluke ever. Would've won in '17 without him

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    I just don't understand how anyone can actually like Durant. He's so insecure, I guess he did have so suffer from being pulled from Seattle to OKC, being paired with westbrook, having a coach for many years, but other than that, he's gotten whatever he wants and he has only shown a tad of grace since winning chips with the warriors.

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