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Episode 1 and 2 were OK. Episode 3 was an embarrassment. Episode 4 was episode 1 and 2 all over again.
Episode 5 was pretty good by season 8 standards. People get hunged up on the plot. If you watch the episode for what it is, it's quite enjoyable.
It was one of the highlights of the episode in my opinion.
The only gripe I have about it is that it wasn't really Gregor. It was just a zombie who didn't feel anything. it wasn't as satisfying as fighting a conscious person that knew how evil he was.
Episode 1 and 2 were OK. Episode 3 was an embarrassment. Episode 4 was episode 1 and 2 all over again.
Episode 5 was pretty good by season 8 standards. People get hunged up on the plot. If you watch the episode for what it is, it's quite enjoyable.
It would have been believable with proper pacing and writing, given all she's lost over the last 4-7 episodes. But it felt so unnatural and rushed. And telegraphed.
Relative to season 8, yeah I agree with your rankings.
The issue is some people were watching GOT and loved it's rich dialogue and (relatively) smart writing, plots, intrigue, twists. Then we had other people watching oh yaaas dragon power, explosions, zombies comin, let's go team stark etc, who are happy with action only even with little substance. One reviewer I saw on youtube called this the GoT twitter fans.
A large segment of fans rushed through it and are only watching it so they aren't left out of discussions..I doubt they care about the plots and writing
I know many people who don't know most of the characters..several asked me why the Hound and Mountain hated each other lol
We are about to reach or have reached the level of hilarity that Saturday Night Live is likely to jump on the hate circle jerk and lampoon the ty plot and writing very soon. Paul Rudd hosts this saturday, and other GoT actors have made cameos on SNL
The writers said they are turning off their phones and drinking for the last episode. You would have thought it was for this one
I like how they used that light skinned girl's head getting lobbed off as her crazy triggerThat would have been a good ending if they had built it up properly..
It's a very thin line..it could have looked great with a full season build-up, where they slowly showed her mental decline and that would have made sense..instead, we get a complete meltdown and character turn in 1 episode lol
Such a disappointing ending..it was so bad that I had it in the background on the 2nd tv while the Raptors game was on and I haven't even rewatched it
And it's amazing how everyone's plot armor from ep 3 has worn off...
I do believe that the mad queen twist is 100% GRRM. The problem is that there was no build up whereas if the books are ever completed (lol), her descent won't be as jarring. There were at least two clues that this was going to happen - Dany's vision of the throne room in ashes during season two, and Bran's vision of a dragon over Kings Landing during season six (the same time he saw Jamie killing Aerys, the Sept of Baelor exploding, etc).
The show really needed two more seasons - one to properly end the NK storyline, and another to wrap everything else up. Squeezing everything into three episodes each is just not working for a show that has always been a slow burn.
Strange move from HBO.
They obviously wanted this too keep on going but Dan and Dave said no. At that point I would've gotten a different pair of show runners. It's done all the time.
I wonder if they came as a packaged deal with GRR Martin since he told them the ending from the beginning.
yea that arya is par for this season's course
Regarding the clegane bowl, absolutely fan service, but the way Qyburn's death made me laugh made me like this whole season. It helped salvage this season IMO
Damn, even the actors think it's been ass
You can tell Peter Dinklage really hates them s
I can't blame him after his character transformed from one of the smartest on the show to a completely worthless idiot
This. The writing has been downright awful since Season 5 IMO but everything has been so rushed on top of the awful writing in S7/8.
Mad Queen was good storytelling, just not enough time to justify it here.
He's a treacherous idiot. Varys saved his life and Tyrion turned his back on him at the drop of a hat.
You can tell Peter Dinklage really hates them s
I can't blame him after his character transformed from one of the smartest on the show to a completely worthless idiot
Everybody's character has been ruined this season:
- Jon's a plot device with no wants or desires. How does he feel about his incestuous relationship with his aunt? How does he feel about Rhaegal and Missandei's deaths? Does he want to be king-consort? Does he want anything anymore?
- Varys watched Daenerys go out of her way to save the people of Westeros, but then decides that she is no good and tries to poison her food. He also tries to get Jon to usurp Dany, even though Jon loves Dany and has spoken directly to Varys maybe one time in the entire show.
- Tyrion is a completely worthless, backstabbing dumbass. He should have been executed in season four.
- Sansa is a wannabe Littlefinger/Cersei who has a rageboner for Dany that goes beyond all reason.
- Arya is a gigantic Mary Sue who cucked Jon out of killing the Night King and was given an enormous amount of screentime in episode five for literally no reason.
- Bran is completely useless. He knows everything but nobody tries to use his powers for their own advantage.
- Jaime's character arc was completely reversed. He left Cersei to save Westeros, but he goes back to Cersei because he doesn't care about Westeros.
- Cersei was predictably a paper tiger. She was pushed into power by D&D so the good guys can have a human enemy. She had no justification for being queen and no justification for staying in power.
- Euron existed just to be annoying. He fought to the death with Jaime for no reason I can think of.
- Missandei was an "advisor" and translator who didn't give advice and didn't translate anything of importance. She didn't even speak to Daenerys since season seven episode four, but her death is supposed to push Dany over the edge.
- Daenerys is hated by everybody for no believable reason I can think of. She is jealous of Jon because he is well-liked in the North. She somehow is under the impression that she won't be loved in Westeros like Jon is, despite the fact that nobody knows or cares about Jon south of Winterfell.
There is no satisfying ending to this. Jon will have to kill Daenerys and the Starks will walk away from this completely unscathed. Tyrion will get a position of power despite not deserving it whatsoever. Bronn will be Lord of Highgarden because he has to be shoehorned into the plot. Bran will be a worthless figurehead king. This ending is pure nihilism.
This is the type of subtle subtle dumb ery that it takes a while to digest
Like theres so much wrong with this show now I prob never would have realized that had someone not pointed this out
What's sad is that HBO offered D&D more money to extent the show longer and they refused. If they couldn't leave the project for whatever reason, it seems like they could have brought more people on board to take over the heavy lifting. Even a full ten episodes for seasons 7 and 8 would've helped immensely.
People can be dumb s sometimes.
Someone made a pe ion to remake season 8 and it has well over 30k signatures already.
The pussification of this country is at an all time high. As mediocre as season 8 has been, crying about a remake is just too much.
I can't wait for the meltdown when their Star Wars movie comes out.
Good summary tbh, when do you personally think the show went off the rails ? How did you feel about the first few seasons?
Damn, even the actors think it's been ass
Just imagine if Varys was successful in poisoning Daenerys. Then what? What about the siege of King's Landing? What about the Dothraki? What about the Unsullied? What about Drogon? What would Varys try to do with Jon?
Like theres so much wrong with this show now I prob never would have realized that had someone not pointed this out
Best case scenario: Dany dies from being poisoned and Jon somehow tames Drogon. The Unsullied won't follow him because Grey Worm doesn't like him. The Dothraki won't follow him because they won't respect him. Nobody in Westeros would believe Jon is the rightful heir, and Jon doesn't want to rule in the first place.
Let's look at Sansa, too. She conspired against Dany behind Jon's back, because she didn't want Jon going south and wanted to keep the Northern independence.
But her solution was Jon becoming king, which doesn't solve any of her problems. She was against Jon being king-consort because Starks don't do well in the South, but she is for him becoming king? Wouldn't that paint an even bigger target on Jon's back?This makes no sense.
I started season 1 4/30 and im all caught up and ready for the ending Sunday. 8 seasons in 19 days. Im in love with the mother of dragons...that is all
I said I wasn't going to, but I read the leaks. I really hope that's one of the fake endings they said they filmed, or just BS altogether. Because if that's the real end that GRRM gave to D&D for some of these characters... holy . Makes no sense.
that report that HBO was giving more money to make 10ep could be false. Someone with inside informations said that everything about that situation will be known after the show is over. I believe this show should have at least 10-13 season, like GRRM said. I get it that D&D probably wanted to do something else (StarWars), but couldn't they give it to someone else, cause this last season has been . Pretty much since season 4 has all gone downhill.
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