***OFFICIAL KAWHI RELATED NEWS Thread***

[BSfromTX]

That’s the point I keep trying to make. People only giving Kawhi 100% of the blame is dumb. There is more than likely some blame on both sides. But something happened that turned this thing so bad, that his group was hiding Kawhi and even sabotaging potential trades requests. Something went horribly wrong to take the animosity to that level.

PATFO ed up somewhere too. Bottom line.

Why did Kawhi want out? Nobody knows. Could be just as much the Spurs fault if not more. I can give you that.

Who handled it poorly? So far Kawhi. Perhaps the truth might make it understandable, but how he handled the whole thing is hard to defend. I don't hold a grudge or blame him for doing whatever he feels is best for himself. I just feel like you have to treat people right along the way. Spurs have a solid track record of treating players fair, so it really is hard to defend Kawhi on HOW HE HANDLED IT.

[TDMVPDPOY]

that core could 3-peat. Add Murray and Walker to the mix plus the usual bench production and we probably getting another 5 banners to the 5 we already got Uncle Dennis

do u think pop gives a about 5 more championships? u either win his way, or its the highway.... just like how he tried to overcoach himself by subbing td out of a winning last possession game...how stupid was that?

[Spurs fever]

I still want to like him, but him not supporting his teammates during the playoffs just be seen with Magic Johnson a week later sucked. I would take him back if I could. I see Spurs great like Robinson and Bowen praising him so hopefully some fences are being mended. Sean Elliot hates him lol

[james evans]

I still don't have a problem with him. I've watched 3 raptor games this season. The 2 against us and game 7 against the Sixers. Since Pop is the greatest coach ever that made him, he should easily just make another Leonard. Walker should be an mvp candidate in 4 years..

[exstatic]

I still want to like him, but him not supporting his teammates during the playoffs just be seen with Magic Johnson a week later sucked. I would take him back if I could. I see Spurs great like Robinson and Bowen praising him so hopefully some fences are being mended. Sean Elliot hates him lol

He's never coming back.

[Ice009]

WTF? I would have had a problem with someone trying to strong arm the best organization in the nba when he’s very clearly not qualified.

You think the problems would go away once you give in? No. They would get worse.

Who says you can't fire Dennis and trade Kawhi? I would have went with the front office job offer, I probably wouldn't have offered the 1% ownership, though. That would have been a last resort. If you just simply gave him a front office job, you could always fire him and then trade Kawhi. Giving him 1% stake in ownership would have been tricky, though. As Exstatic said, it's hard to appease someone that is likely to keep asking for more and more. It freaking sucks watching him dominate for another team, though, especially when this team with him could have been a great, great team, definitely better than the Raptors IMO.

[exstatic]

Who says you can't fire Dennis and trade Kawhi? I would have went with the front office job offer, I probably wouldn't have offered the 1% ownership, though. That would have been a last resort. If you just simply gave him a front office job, you could always fire him and then trade Kawhi. Giving him 1% stake in ownership would have been tricky, though. As Exstatic said, it's hard to appease someone that is likely to keep asking for more and more. It freaking sucks watching him dominate for another team, though, especially when this team with him could have been a great, great team, definitely better than the Raptors IMO.

The thing is, he likely won't be with THAT team soon, either. He's just a merc, and I can't ever get behind that type of player.

[JeffDuncan]

Damn, some of you would have actually objected to giving Dennis a 1% ownership stake in exchange for Kawhi being a Spurs lifer?

If you're being sarcastic, that's a good one. As a serious idea it's obviously loopy.

So you give UnkaD an ownership share, and Leonard stays. Then in the first game of the season, Leonard does a Murray, but even worse, and totally tears up a knee, and it ends his career. Now you have no Kawhi, but you still have UnkaD there in the office, and you can't get rid of him since he's a part owner.
Which makes you the dumbest schmuck in the history of sports. You gave away an ownership share for absolutely nothing.

But you were just kidding.

[offset formation]

If you're being sarcastic, that's a good one. As a serious idea it's obviously loopy.

So you give UnkaD an ownership share, and Leonard stays. Then in the first game of the season, Leonard does a Murray, but even worse, and totally tears up a knee, and it ends his career. Now you have no Kawhi, but you still have UnkaD there in the office, and you can't get rid of him since he's a part owner.
Which makes you the dumbest schmuck in the history of sports. You gave away an ownership share for absolutely nothing.

But you were just kidding.

I certainly hope he was. In fact that's why I didnt respond already.

[LkrFan]

Fresh new calf tat:

[slick'81]

I hope the bucks destroy the raptors

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fresh new calf tat:

LOL. That's a pic of Kawhi waiting for help wiping his ass.

[JeffDuncan]

Definitely a highlight reel squat. One of the great squats in sports history. I don't think even Michael Jordan ever squatted better.

[Brazil]

I hope the bucks destroy the raptors

I'm not gonna lie, I'm going to be massively butthurt if they reach the finals...

[Twisted_Dawg]

My guess is that it's something contract-related, I can't really picture anything else..

Either they were reluctant on the supermax due to injury concerns, maybe wanted him to prove his health on a shorter deal, maybe they wanted him to take less to help the team's future, something of that nature..

I really hope that isn't the case, though..the team that bid against themselves for Patty Mills at 12:01 and got finessed by Pau Gasol should have offered Kawhi all the money and all the years,including giving Uncle Dennis an ownership stake..

Speak for yourself, homie.

Ownership stake for uncle...

Let's see....give the Unc a 1% share of the team....1% of $1.5 billion is $15 million. Yeah, don't see that happening. Every super in the league would be demanding a 1% for some worthless family member.

.....but if kawhis party wanted % ownership... then i can understand the owners not wanting to give up 1%... maybe sell 1% then yes, but not give away free

Damn, some of you would have actually objected to giving Dennis a 1% ownership stake in exchange for Kawhi being a Spurs lifer?

HarlemHeat suggested the Spurs should have given Uncle Penis an ownership stake, and now in the world of internet message boards its almost factual.

[Dennis the Menace]

WTF? I would have had a problem with someone trying to strong arm the best organization in the nba when he’s very clearly not qualified.

You think the problems would go away once you give in? No. They would get worse.

Were the Spurs perceived of this status prior to Tim Duncan? Would the Spurs be perceived as the best organization in the world had they not drafted Tim Duncan? Or if Tim had left for Orlando? I think this organization has been pumped up too high with “can do no wrong” status. Tim Duncan has been the main ingredient.

Lets propose this. During free agency with Tim leaning to Orlando, would you offer him/his family 1% ownership stake to keep him? I can’t think of many Spurs fans that would say no.

In this case Kawhi is the second coming of Michael Jordan and from a talent perspective, if the goal is to actually win championships then ownership stake should have been considered. That’s if it was the primary hiccup in retaining him.

[Joseph Kony]

you people are really dumb if you think the spurs should have offered uncle dennis a stake in the ownership, something that has literally never happened before

[Joseph Kony]

by this time we should already know what happened. spurs didnt offer the supermax. nephew/uncle wanted it, spurs wanted to see him play first before handing out a supermax and committing 40% of the cap to a chronically injured player. nephew/uncle knew he has a degenerative condition as the spurs initially thought and knew he would need load management for the rest of his career and tried to strong arm the spurs and things fell apart completely from there. in hindsight it looks really stupid. but if the spurs committed 40+ million a year to someone who is chronically injured y'all would be whining about the FO getting suckered by uncle dennis either way

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

This is lame that people have some inside info and will not share a bit of it, especially when the person is stating Kawhi was the victim. I know that I heard he wanted out Before they started using his injury as the reason. The funny thing about that off season was he was in China for most of it climbing the great wall and doing promotional work for team Jordan with Aldridge and Jimmy Butler. Then right when training camp started he had injury issues.

I wish whoever had a little bit of info would just give a hint what the front office did? He doesn't seem to have an issue with Pop so he might have an issue with RC or the actual owners

[Dverde]

Nephew can suck it. He has bad karma coming to him. You don’t give up on your team and get rewarded for it.

[BillMc]

by this time we should already know what happened. spurs didnt offer the supermax. nephew/uncle wanted it, spurs wanted to see him play first before handing out a supermax and committing 40% of the cap to a chronically injured player. nephew/uncle knew he has a degenerative condition as the spurs initially thought and knew he would need load management for the rest of his career and tried to strong arm the spurs and things fell apart completely from there. in hindsight it looks really stupid. but if the spurs committed 40+ million a year to someone who is chronically injured y'all would be whining about the FO getting suckered by uncle dennis either way

Don't disagree with you (in fact, totally agree with you), but for what it is worth, Brian Windhorst wrote that the Spurs DID offer the Supermax at the very end. Consider the source, of course.

[slick'81]

Nephew can suck it. He has bad karma coming to him. You don’t give up on your team and get rewarded for it.

He has so far.hopefully his good fortune runs out vs the bucks because if he reaches the finals in his first season in tor the jordan comparisons will never stop

[tholdren]

Didnt robinson score 71 on 40 shots and kl scored 40 on 40 shots? And robinson did it when you could play defense.

[azarel]

Didnt robinson score 71 on 40 shots and kl scored 40 on 40 shots? And robinson did it when you could play defense.

that was the very last game of the season where he won the scoring le over shaq right? shaq was real salty about it cos he scored 36 pts or something in the final game and he thought he had the scoring le in the bag.

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

that was the very last game of the season where he won the scoring le over shaq right? shaq was real salty about it cos he scored 36 pts or something in the final game and he thought he had the scoring le in the bag.

Shaq is still salty about it lol