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    Can't dispute the facts... go for some sort of source attack. Why do you keep ignoring these facts, TSA?


    FIRST FELONY
    E. Efforts to fire Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 87): Former White House Counsel Don McGahn is a “credible witness” in providing evidence that Trump indeed attempted to fire Mueller. This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.”

    Nexus (p. 89): “Substantial evidence” indicates that, at this point, Trump was aware that “his conduct was under investigation by a federal prosecutor who could present any evidence of federal crimes to a grand jury.”

    Intent (p. 89): “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]”

    SECOND FELONY
    F. Efforts to curtail Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 97): Trump’s effort to force Sessions to confine the investigation to only investigating future election interference “would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” “Taken together, the President’s directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign[.]”

    Nexus (p. 97): At the relevant point, “the existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by the Special Counsel was public knowledge.

    Intent (p. 97): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump’s efforts were “intended to prevent further investigative structiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”

    THIRD FELONY
    I. Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 118): This effort “would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” There is “some evidence” that Trump genuinely believed press reports that he had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller were wrong. However, “[o]ther evidence cuts against that understanding of the president’s conduct”—and the special counsel lists a great deal more evidence on this latter point.

    Nexus (p. 119): At this point “the Special Counsel’s use of a grand jury had been further confirmed by the return of several indictments.” Mueller’s office had indicated to Trump’s lawyers that it was investigating obstruction, and Trump knew that McGahn had already been interviewed by Mueller on the topic. “That evidence indicates the President’s awareness” that his efforts to fire Mueller were relevant to official proceedings. Trump “likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it” in directing McGahn to create a false record of the earlier interaction.

    Intent (p. 120): “Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny” of Trump.

    FOURTH FELONY
    J. Conduct toward... Manafort

    Obstructive act (p. 131): “The President’s actions toward witnesses … would qualify as obstructive if they had the natural tendency to prevent particular witnesses from testifying truthfully, or otherwise would have the probable effect of influencing, delaying, or preventing their testimony to law enforcement.” ...Regarding Manafort, “there is evidence that the President’s actions had the potential” to influence Manafort’s thinking on cooperation, and his public statements “had the potential to influence the trial jury.”

    Nexus (p. 132): Trump’s actions toward [Manafort and others] “appear to have been connected to pending or anticipated official proceedings involving each individual.”

    Intent (p. 132): “[e]vidence … indicates that the President intended to encourage Manafort not to cooperate with the government,” though “there are alternative explanations” for Trump’s comments during the Manafort trial.
    Now highlight all the qualifiers

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    Nancy sounding strong, but impeachment?

    Pelosi Backs Nadler On ‘Cons utional Crisis’: They Won’t ‘Honor Their Oath Of Office’

    Pelosi blasted Trump with the truth that he is failing to even pretend to protect our elections.

    House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) on Thursday blasted the Trump administration for not even pretending to want to protect our elections.

    Pelosi added that she agrees with House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler that the country was in a cons utional crisis, and

    repeated her reference to Trump ‘almost self-impeaching’ by refusing to abide by the Cons ution and laws.

    It appears as if Pelosi is making the case for the public to impeach Trump, but

    Pelosi knows better than most that with Republicans in the Senate,

    Trump will not be kicked out of office.

    He will, however, use the impeachment process to further portray himself as a victim in 2020.

    Republicans are spitting on other Republicans who bring forth facts that this president invited Russia to attack our country.

    Of course Donald Trump should be impeached. And of course the rule of law necessitates that he be impeached.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05...iticus+USA+%29



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    Trump Knows It’s Game Over When Bob Mueller Presents His Evidence On Live TV

    Donald Trump knows it’s game over if the special counsel presents his evidence on live television.

    Mueller will turn “dry words from a report” into an explosive made-for-television presentation.

    “If Bob Mueller comes up and testifies, if Don McGahn comes up and testifies, suddenly those dry words in a report that most of the American public don’t read come alive on TV,

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/05/09/trump-knows-its-game-over-when-bob-mueller-presents-his-evidence-on-live-tv.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_ campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politicus+ USA+%29

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    well, duh, but at least they're professionals

    ‘Reckless, impulsive, self-destructive’:

    Psychiatrists warn Mueller report gives more evidence Trump is mentally unfit



    The Best Brain, The Best Words, Ever

    Robert Mueller’s report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election shows more evidence that President Donald Trump is

    mentally unfit to hold office
    .

    Mueller’s report provides a disturbing new window into the president’s behavior, which is frequently marked by

    impulsive emotional meltdowns.

    “The pattern that emerges of the president is one of

    rash, short-sighted decision-making, without consideration of consequences,”

    “Reckless, impulsive moves that are self-destructive,

    despite the intention of self-protection, are

    characteristic of dangerous impairment.

    They impede Trump’s capacity to prioritize national security.”

    illustrate these behaviors, including

    his efforts to dangle pardons to potential witnesses and

    his effort to get Mueller fired as special counsel.


    They say that his

    ordering former White House counsel Don McGahn to get rid of Mueller should be seen

    as especially alarming given how inherently self-destructive it was.


    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/rec...e+Raw+Story%29


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    Now highlight all the qualifiers
    No one is stopping you.

    LOL TSA uses Mueller report to show no collusion, but it isn't good enough for him to show no felonies.

    Unforunately for you the qualifiers here are both appropriate, and don't water it down so much as to make it misleading.

    Can't dispute the facts... go for some sort of source attack. Why do you keep ignoring these facts, TSA?


    FIRST FELONY
    E. Efforts to fire Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 87): Former White House Counsel Don McGahn is a “credible witness” in providing evidence that Trump indeed attempted to fire Mueller. This “would qualify as an obstructive act” if the firing “would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.”

    Nexus (p. 89): “Substantial evidence” indicates that, at this point, Trump was aware that “his conduct was under investigation by a federal prosecutor who could present any evidence of federal crimes to a grand jury.”

    Intent (p. 89): “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel’s oversight of investigations that involved the President’s conduct[.]”

    SECOND FELONY
    F. Efforts to curtail Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 97): Trump’s effort to force Sessions to confine the investigation to only investigating future election interference “would qualify as an obstructive act if it would naturally obstruct the investigation and any grand jury proceedings that might flow from the inquiry.” “Taken together, the President’s directives indicate that Sessions was being instructed to tell the Special Counsel to end the existing investigation into the President and his campaign[.]”

    Nexus (p. 97): At the relevant point, “the existence of a grand jury investigation supervised by the Special Counsel was public knowledge.

    Intent (p. 97): “Substantial evidence” indicates that Trump’s efforts were “intended to prevent further investigative structiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.”

    THIRD FELONY
    I. Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller

    Obstructive act (p. 118): This effort “would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” There is “some evidence” that Trump genuinely believed press reports that he had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller were wrong. However, “[o]ther evidence cuts against that understanding of the president’s conduct”—and the special counsel lists a great deal more evidence on this latter point.

    Nexus (p. 119): At this point “the Special Counsel’s use of a grand jury had been further confirmed by the return of several indictments.” Mueller’s office had indicated to Trump’s lawyers that it was investigating obstruction, and Trump knew that McGahn had already been interviewed by Mueller on the topic. “That evidence indicates the President’s awareness” that his efforts to fire Mueller were relevant to official proceedings. Trump “likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it” in directing McGahn to create a false record of the earlier interaction.

    Intent (p. 120): “Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny” of Trump.

    FOURTH FELONY
    J. Conduct toward... Manafort

    Obstructive act (p. 131): “The President’s actions toward witnesses … would qualify as obstructive if they had the natural tendency to prevent particular witnesses from testifying truthfully, or otherwise would have the probable effect of influencing, delaying, or preventing their testimony to law enforcement.” ...Regarding Manafort, “there is evidence that the President’s actions had the potential” to influence Manafort’s thinking on cooperation, and his public statements “had the potential to influence the trial jury.”

    Nexus (p. 132): Trump’s actions toward [Manafort and others] “appear to have been connected to pending or anticipated official proceedings involving each individual.”

    Intent (p. 132): “[e]vidence … indicates that the President intended to encourage Manafort not to cooperate with the government,” though “there are alternative explanations” for Trump’s comments during the Manafort trial.

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    Trump and his allies are blocking more than 20 separate Democratic probes in an all-out war with Congress

    President Trump and his allies are working to block more than 20 separate investigations by Democrats into

    his actions as president,

    his personal finances and

    his administration’s policies ...

    amounting to what many experts call the
    most expansive White House obstruction effort in decades.

    has

    shifted from partial resistance to all-out war

    as he faces mounting inquiries from the Democratic-controlled House —

    a strategy that many legal and congressional experts fear could undermine the ins utional power of Congress for years to come.

    All told, House Democrats say the Trump administration has

    failed to respond to or comply with at least 79 requests for do ents or other information.

    The president is blocking aides from testifying,

    refusing entire do ent requests from some committees,

    filing lawsuits against corporations to bar them from responding to subpoenas and

    asserting executive privilege to keep information about the special counsel’s Russia investigation from public view.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-and-his-allies-are-blocking-more-than-20-separate-democratic-probes-in-an-all-out-war-with-congress/2019/05/11/4d972274-733a-11e9-9eb4-0828f5389013_story.html?utm_term=.328609a21d1b&wpi src=nl_most&wpmm=1



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    The meltdown continues.

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    The criminal cover up continues.

    fify

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    Now, if McGahn would quit, then we'd have plenty of testimony to add to the impeachment articles.
    mcgahn is a private citizen-
    but he is a piece of partisan and is obeying the criminal's orders -

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    Please impeach him. Please do it now.

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    Repugs 20 years ago, going after Clinton for even the appearance of obstruction

    https://www.facebook.com/washingtond...9547683222878/
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-14-2019 at 06:42 AM.

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    Trump Argument Comes Into View

    We’ll have more on this shortly.

    But I want to point out the common argument the President’s personal lawyers (yesterday) and the White House Counsel’s office (in today’s letter) are now making.

    They argue that the Congress has no legitimate oversight role with respect to the executive branch at all,

    a stunning argument that would clip the wings of Congress permanently.

    They are arguing first

    that the only legitimate do ent requests or subpoenas are those tied specifically and narrowly to shaping upcoming legislation.

    That’s an aspect of oversight but only a smallish part of it.

    Secondly,

    anything that is tied to wrongdoing or malfeasance or possibly crimes is “law enforcement”,

    which is the exclusive purview of the executive branch.

    In other words, from both sides of the equation,

    they argue that Congress has no oversight role at all.

    Now the argument is out in the open.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-argument-comes-into-view?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_cam paign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29



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    Bill Barr goes scapegoat-hunting to boost Donald Trump's conspiracy theories

    Attorney general is deploying Department of Justice resources to prop up Trump's baseless, paranoid theories

    after House Democrats failed to force Attorney General William Barr to face any serious consequences for ignoring the rule of law, Barr has only been emboldened to go further.

    has opened yet another investigation of the FBI, specifically targeting agents who took part in the investigation of the Russian criminal conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election, and of potential ties between the Trump campaign and that conspiracy.

    This cannot be stated strenuously enough: There is no reason beyond sheer propaganda for the Department of Justice to do such a thing.

    The (Mueller) investigation was entirely legal and based on the evident fact that

    multiple campaign officials — most of whom have now pled guilty or been convicted — were engaged in shady behavior that caused informants to blow the whistle.

    To put it more simply,

    using government officials to create lies to smear your political opponents is fascist behavior.

    If Trump gets away with it, that will put the country one step further down a dark and scary road.

    https://www.salon.com/2019/05/14/bill-barr-goes-scapegoat-hunting-to-boost-donald-trumps-conspiracy-theories/
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-15-2019 at 03:59 PM.

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    Republicans roll out a dangerous new gambit — and it could have a major impact on 2020

    Barr’s previous tenure as attorney general, under George H.W. Bush, he tasked the U.S. attorney in Arkansas with digging up Whitewater dirt on then-candidate Bill Clinton during the 1992 presidential campaign.

    As the legendary Gene Lyons
    noted in the Arkansas Times back in 2016, that U.S. attorney knew that

    the story was bunk as well as inappropriate and refused to proceed,

    he’d set the wheels in motion for a series of pseudo-investigations that continued through all eight years of the Clinton administration.

    And what that U.S. attorney said was actually the point of the whole exercise.

    Republicans knew it didn’t matter if the investigations of the president were based upon serious su ion of illegal activity.

    It was the narrative that mattered.

    They could the same model to leverage and pump up trivial or mundane events into major stories.

    Republicans learned this was a useful way to keep their base engaged, particularly when the driver of right-wing politics during the 1990s, talk radio, was joined by the new powerhouse, Fox News.

    Now that Republicans have a congenial attorney general, they are using the power of the Department of Justice against itself.

    In addition to the two ongoing probes into the origins of the Russia case —

    along with the Mueller report, which goes into these questions in great depth —

    Barr has announced yet another “investigation into the investigation,” as well as some kind of cross-agency inquiry with the CIA and the director of national intelligence.

    The point is to mainstream the counter-narrative.

    there can be no doubt about the chilling effect these investigations will have on FBI and intelligence officials throughout the government.

    They will think hard before they take another close look at Donald Trump’s crimes going forward.

    If they can engage the mainstream media and throw everything they have at it,

    they may succeed at confusing the public and convincing them that all this smoke they’re blowing means there must be a fire.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/republicans-roll-out-a-dangerous-new-gambit-and-it-could-have-a-major-impact-on-2020/

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    Truth bomb ^

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    Bill, Hillary, Obama, ALL have been relentlessly victims of Repug sliming, character assassination. The strategy goes back to Barr under GW Bush

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    Hmm... get her Barr!

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    Naturally the FOX News guy on Darrin's feed leaves out the other part of the exchange, which makes it clear that it's a (confusingly) friendly exchange between two people instead of a one line, drop-the-mic zinger from Barr.



    Imagine thinking any of this is funny.

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    Naturally the FOX News guy on Darrin's feed leaves out the other part of the exchange, which makes it clear that it's a (confusingly) friendly exchange between two people instead of a one line, drop-the-mic zinger from Barr.



    Imagine thinking any of this is funny.

    Evidently, you don't have a sense of humor.

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    Evidently, you don't have a sense of humor.
    I have a great sense of humor. Two of the most powerful people in the country yukking it up behind the scenes in the midst of the divisive political drama that they're pushing on the masses in public isn't really on the funny spectrum for me.

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    Evidently, you don't have a sense of humor.
    Evidently your sense of checks and balances blows with the political winds -- POTUS flauting Congressional oversight is now a joking matter. A few years ago you'd have had another paroxysm -- you had many -- about the rule of law and the incipient tyranny of black POTUS.

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