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    @3 minute mark

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    We all knew there was very little honesty during that interview. What was he supposed to say? There was already trouble in paradise. He was pretty much out the door.

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    Why is anyone complaining about this? The kids probably a little naive if he really means his statements. Still, Gotta love that enthusiasm. Coulda used his fire vs Denver.

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    I don't get all the "Instagram" insults hurled at this guy... he's 22, and his Instagram account has 74 posts, which is extremely moderate. Yeah, I know there was drama with his lady, but still-- this idea that he's obsessed with Instagram and some sort of horrible self involved millennial seems like a fabrication not based in reality.
    This

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    Spurs finally get a young talent who works hard, has progressed quickly, is vocally committed to the team, and strives to be a leader...and there are still so many asshats around here who want to throw him under the bus because "oh his jumper" or "he spends too much time on Instagram".

    Some of you are just never satisfied...or maybe you just like to because it makes you feel like you stand out.
    I don’t hate ask Dj but I don’t get the hype behind him. I know he’s a good defender and for me that’s enough but I haven’t seen much from offensively except some practice videos, on here though the people that love him talk about him like he’s the second coming of Kawhi and I haven’t seen anything to point that way.

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    ST has a unique ability to turn positives into negatives.

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    ST has a unique ability to turn positives into negatives.

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    It's mainly the Derrick White fans who feel threatened by Murray because he's the higher ceiling player and would rather see him fail than regain his starting spot over White.
    While I think that's a legitimate concern, I also think there are worse problems to have than trying to find roles and minutes for two young, promising players. Considering DDR plays more like a 3 now anyways, I think there is room for both Murray and White in the starting lineup...and I also don't think it would be the worse thing in the world if White ended up with more of a Manu role leading the bench unit (good passer, more shots available, etc.)

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    I don’t hate ask Dj but I don’t get the hype behind him. I know he’s a good defender and for me that’s enough but I haven’t seen much from offensively except some practice videos, on here though the people that love him talk about him like he’s the second coming of Kawhi and I haven’t seen anything to point that way.
    I agree 100%

    He hasn't shown much offensively and he didn't really seem to be a true point guard in the sense of setting the table for teammates his 1st couple of seasons. His 2nd season towards the end of the year his corner 3 was looking solid. I think he will be better this upcoming season but I feel folks are overreacting on how better he will be. White is clearly more of a point guard than Murray but Murray is younger and still learning.

    I hope offensively he finishes better at the rim and his shot is better, especially from 3. I'm looking forward to seeing the continued maturation of all our young players games

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    Imma be honest: we need s that get on Instagram.

    If DJM's numbers grow, his jersey is going to be poppin'.

    The organization needs a little dash of swag, not too much, but a little.

    We need some nasty.

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    in todays game:

    ILYASOVA >>>>>>>> kawhi

    hahahahahahahahhahaha
    homeboy tore it up!

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    ST has a unique ability to turn positives into negatives.
    Most likely they live a negative lifestyle as well

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    Imma be honest: we need s that get on Instagram.

    If DJM's numbers grow, his jersey is going to be poppin'.

    The organization needs a little dash of swag, not too much, but a little.

    We need some nasty.
    Truth ..people forget basketball is a business as well, you NEED to develop a brand

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    While I think that's a legitimate concern, I also think there are worse problems to have than trying to find roles and minutes for two young, promising players. Considering DDR plays more like a 3 now anyways, I think there is room for both Murray and White in the starting lineup...and I also don't think it would be the worse thing in the world if White ended up with more of a Manu role leading the bench unit (good passer, more shots available, etc.)
    It's not a legitimate concern that a player who plays for your team could be better than another player on the team who plays the same position. THAT is what White player fans are worried about and it isn't cool, especially since Murray has the higher ceiling and is younger. I want both to succeed but it's clear to me Murray is the player with the most promise who would never get yanked out of a Game 7. I don't know if White should start as the SG with DDR at the 3. We'll see how things develop. DeRozan works best at the 2 and even if Murray and White improve their 3 point shooting, which I know they will, they will likely not be elite 3 point shooters by next season. We need a volume shooter in the lineup of Murray, DDR, LMA, and Poetl...and one who can defend somewhat unlike Forbes, who while he'll never be a legit starter in the NBA, proved to me in the playoffs that he could be big off the bench in the Belinelli role next season. I want to see how Walker develops and who we draft to see who we can start at the 2 because those are our best options with impact trades and impact free agency not on the table. If we don't have that player after all that, then yes, I'd be all for White starting at the two. The back court defense would be awesome but the shooting could be a big concern. Forbes chucked alot of shots for my liking during the regular season but in his defense, somebody needed to take 3s and he was effective from that one standpoint as a starter. It'll be interesting to see how things shape up. I just want to see this team maximize the best of their core. White as our sixth man looks to be the best option to me but we shall see.

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    It's not a legitimate concern that a player who plays for your team could be better than another player on the team who plays the same position. THAT is what White player fans are worried about and it isn't cool, especially since Murray has the higher ceiling and is younger. I want both to succeed but it's clear to me Murray is the player with the most promise who would never get yanked out of a Game 7. I don't know if White should start as the SG with DDR at the 3. We'll see how things develop. DeRozan works best at the 2 and even if Murray and White improve their 3 point shooting, which I know they will, they will likely not be elite 3 point shooters by next season. We need a volume shooter in the lineup of Murray, DDR, LMA, and Poetl...and one who can defend somewhat unlike Forbes, who while he'll never be a legit starter in the NBA, proved to me in the playoffs that he could be big off the bench in the Belinelli role next season. I want to see how Walker develops and who we draft to see who we can start at the 2 because those are our best options with impact trades and impact free agency not on the table. If we don't have that player after all that, then yes, I'd be all for White starting at the two. The back court defense would be awesome but the shooting could be a big concern. Forbes chucked alot of shots for my liking during the regular season but in his defense, somebody needed to take 3s and he was effective from that one standpoint as a starter. It'll be interesting to see how things shape up. I just want to see this team maximize the best of their core. White as our sixth man looks to be the best option to me but we shall see.
    I agree that, to me, White coming off the bench makes more sense. Murray, LMA, and DDR are going to command the ball most of the time in the starting lineup...it would really put White's talent to waste if he just being expected to help bring the ball up and dump it off. He will have more freedom to create in the second unit, which already has a focus on shooting, ball and player movement, and spacing (places where White thrives).

    This would leave a concern of 3-point shooting in the starting lineup but...assuming Murray has become a passable shooter and (hopefully) DeMar can contribute some in that area next year too, I don't think it will be too much of an issue. Frankly, White isn't enough of a prolific shooter to really solve that problem either. For all of Forbes' faults...he did at least provide some much needed spacing for that unit.

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    People can be dubious about Murray without being worried about White starting. I think Derrick's the better player (by a sizeable margin), but someone on RealGM proposed a White/DeRozan/Poeltl-for-4 trade, and I was cool with it. I think that if White is trade or whatever that the team could get by with Murray. I think they're very different players and that Murray simply doesn't fit what the team wants to do as well, especially on the first unit. Forbes, White, DeRozan, (defensive combo-forward) and Aldridge is a very good starting lineup. Murray's energy, rebounding and deflections work much better with guys like Mills, Beli, Bertans, Gay and Poeltl around him. It doesn't make sense to make White the primary guy. Let him and DeRozan form a good duo and team up with Aldridge and shooters, and let Murray run the high-octane bench. I simply don't believe Pop's plan of using pace to overcome spacing would work long term.

    I don't have anything against Murray's off-court behavior. A lot of it I don't care about (like I have better things to do than worry about if he's with his girlfriend this week), but his desire to be the leader of the Spurs makes me want to root for him. When the dude's going around saying he wants to be the franchise player while turning out those near-triple-doubles, he feels almost like a movement rather than just a guy. I want that, and I think most Spurs fans want that. But DJM has to back it up more often. He's going to have to come in and be that guy rather than putting in a bunch of slipshod efforts like he did two years ago. He's up for an extension this summer and new contract the year after. PATFO needs to pay him as the guy he is and is going to be over the next five years, not the guy everyone hopes he can be.

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    Lol todays nba....

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    . I think Derrick's the better player (by a sizeable margin), but someone on RealGM proposed a White/DeRozan/Poeltl-for-4 trade, and I was cool with it.
    What was the trade proposal?

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    Stop it already. There is zero chance Murray comes off the bench and there is every indication from Pop that he will play an important role next year. As far as White, he lacks 2 traits that Murray has in spades, toughness & leadership.

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    Let's hope the player catches up with the character. So far it looks as if the image is eating the prospect player alive.

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    What was the trade proposal?
    Literally that.

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    How is Derrick a better player by a "sizable margin"? And yes, there is zero chance Murray will come off the bench next season.

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    Stop it already. There is zero chance Murray comes off the bench and there is every indication from Pop that he will play an important role next year. As far as White, he lacks 2 traits that Murray has in spades, toughness & leadership.
    Um... Pop's already said White will play an important role too. I honestly believe Pop's gonna try to start both with DeRozan, Aldridge and Poeltl. I just don't think it'll work, and since White is easily the best range shooter of the bunch, moving him out makes zero sense.

    Also, White's a much better on-court leader than Murray. DJM is great off the court (media/politics), but he's not a floor-general in the same vein as White. Derrick runs a very good pick-and-roll, has arguably the best court vision on the roster and has a feel for the game far beyond his years. In terms of toughness, it doesn't make any sense to believe there's a big difference there. They're comparable playoff performers based on impact stats, and White spent the year as the "designated perimeter defender", which Murray didn't have to do. White held his own against PGs, SGs and SFs. Without getting into his actual effectiveness as a one-on-one defender, Murray almost exclusively guarded players he was bigger than.

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    If he can be our Draymond Green at PG, I would be more than happy with him. Just play great D, be the emotional leader, playmake and just shoot the open 3 when given the chance.

    No need to be a 20+ scorer to be a vital piece.

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    Yeah because the other 29 teams want him so bad...

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