Dejonte Murray makes STATEMENT regarding his spurs future

[slick'81]

Cant we just be happy we actually have some decent young talent-white,walker,poodle,murray on the squad!?

[FkLA]

It's not that. Lonnie NEEDED legit d-league work to get up to speed and learn the offense. I believe in his ceiling as much as anyone here, but he wasn't ready and didn't really get ready until March or April. Had he not gotten hurt but White still did, I think Lonnie might have been a wire-to-wire starter this year. But there wasn't upside to keeping him with the big club when he wasn't going to get the minutes and touches he needed. But he got hurt and missed the first two months. Then he had to go his half-season or so of floundering in Austin before the lights turned on. He started off pretty poorly in the d-league. Now, hopefully he dominates the summer league and carries that momentum going forward. Even if he doesn't do that, Murray is a precedent of a guy not playing well in July and still showing up in October.

Oh ok, I see.

I didn't follow him as closely in Austin as some of you guys, but after watching just a couple of his games on the youtubes I'm left thinking not only should this dude be in the rotation but he should be the starting 2 next season. A+ level athlete, can get his own shot with relative ease, weapon in transition, and his three point shot doesn't look bad at all. White-Walker in the backcourt and instagram baller can GTFO, tbh.

you are clearly emotional about this... You overrate White and underrate Murray. Murray is a very good player and does have a higher ceiling. There's not much White can do to further his ceiling than just be more consistent. Imo he's closer to a realization while with Murray who knows how high it goes. Everyone knows you hate Murray but dude you got to get with the times... kids use social media. He's savvy in growing his brand imo. I don't like it but I respect it. He's a young business man and it's not like he's doing nothing. He's showing progress every year. The year he comes in trash, or out of shape, or with nothing new to his game I'll agree but for now you just come off as a hater.

Have you seen his grammar and how he types? Did you miss when he mixed up focal point with "vocal point"? He's not some savvy businessman that knows what he's doing, he's just an attention .

I hope he proves me wrong but it's going to take a lot more than a couple "i work out" instagram posts for me to believe his hype after the he pulled in Summer League a couple years ago. Tooting his own horn, even had the staff calling it his time and his team only to get outshined by Forbes and have the team rest him to avoid further embarrassment.

As it stands, White is a better shooter, finisher, distributor, playmaker, floor general, defender. There is no comparison. It can become a comparison when instagram baller gets anywhere close to the ceiling some of you guys think he is guaranteed to reach.

[Immortal Spur]

Have you seen his grammar and how he types? Did you miss when he mixed up focal point with "vocal point"? He's not some savvy businessman that knows what he's doing, he's just an attention .

I hope he proves me wrong but it's going to take a lot more than a couple "i work out" instagram posts for me to believe his hype after the he pulled in Summer League a couple years ago. Tooting his own horn, even had the staff calling it his time and his team only to get outshined by Forbes and have the team rest him to avoid further embarrassment.

As it stands, White is a better shooter, finisher, distributor, playmaker, floor general, defender. There is no comparison. It can become a comparison when instagram baller gets anywhere close to the ceiling some of you guys think he is guaranteed to reach.

you sound very judgmental of him.. who cares if he misspelled words wrong... i'm sure you've done it time to time. that's no basis to make a judgment. You just think he's attention whoring is all when i said that's how kids are nowadays. Do you have socials? you ever talk about your day? It's good for networking and building relationships. I have somewhat of a personal business so I can attest or understand where he's coming from and why he does this. If you don't then you are just ignorant and judging something you don't understand. Of course it's very conservative for you to say those kinds of things but the times are changing. He just sees it as normal.. he grew up in this.. older people like us know a better way... anyways that's a little too deep for this forum...

about the summer league.. he was rumored to be traded that year with Green I believe so maybe he tanked it i dunno... still it was a strange situation all in all. (kyrie irving)

as people have repeatedly said over and over again, white is two years older. Murray has much better tools to work with and you know that. That is a significant reason as to why his ceiling is higher. He has much more to work with. As far as defender, i highly doubt that. With White you get a much more finished product. wasn't he a senior or junior coming out... Murray came out as a freshman. I'm gonna wait till i see this next year with them both before i reserve judgement. i think you dislike him as a person more than you dislike him as a player and that may be why you judgement is so cloudy on this one.

[Babyboy]

if the injury dosent hamper him I can see him having a DPOY type year tbh

[FkLA]

you sound very judgmental of him.. who cares if he misspelled words wrong... i'm sure you've done it time to time. that's no basis to make a judgment. You just think he's attention whoring is all when i said that's how kids are nowadays. Do you have socials? you ever talk about your day? It's good for networking and building relationships. I have somewhat of a personal business so I can attest or understand where he's coming from and why he does this. If you don't then you are just ignorant and judging something you don't understand. Of course it's very conservative for you to say those kinds of things but the times are changing. He just sees it as normal.. he grew up in this.. older people like us know a better way... anyways that's a little too deep for this forum...

I don't give a about his grammar (although it probably doesn't bode well for bball iq), I only brought it up when you tried to suggest he's just being clever "marketing" himself. My response was that he doesn't strike me as a clever guy, and that's it's more likely that he's just an attention .

As far as the age thing goes, why doesn't White love telling the world to look at how hard he works out? Does Lonnie do it? Bryn?They're the same generation.

about the summer league.. he was rumored to be traded that year with Green I believe so maybe he tanked it i dunno... still it was a strange situation all in all. (kyrie irving)

Excuses. That was never even close to happening.

His mouth just wrote checks that his play couldn't cash.

as people have repeatedly said over and over again, white is two years older. Murray has much better tools to work with and you know that. That is a significant reason as to why his ceiling is higher. He has much more to work with. As far as defender, i highly doubt that. With White you get a much more finished product. wasn't he a senior or junior coming out... Murray came out as a freshman. I'm gonna wait till i see this next year with them both before i reserve judgement. i think you dislike him as a person more than you dislike him as a player and that may be why you judgement is so cloudy on this one.

He has more length. That's it. We're not talking about some freak of nature here. There's no other physical aspect that White isn't on par with/better than instagram baller. Plus, White's advantage in the brain department far outweighs whatever advantage instagram baller has in the physical department.

[FkLA]

if the injury dosent hamper him I can see him having a DPOY type year tbh

[Babyboy]

I mean he is the youngest on an all defensive team, keep sleeping though

[FkLA]

I mean he is the youngest on an all defensive team, keep sleeping though

[timvp]

I don't give a about his grammar (although it probably doesn't bode well for bball iq), I only brought it up when you tried to suggest he's just being clever "marketing" himself. My response was that he doesn't strike me as a clever guy, and that's it's more likely that he's just an attention .

Easy there, grampa. Ion know about you but I'd hesitate before adding his social media grammar into his basketball scouting report, tbh.

[Babyboy]

he'll also be the best rebounding guard but let me sip my tea (Westbrook dosent count, his whole team boxes out for him)

[FkLA]

Easy there, grampa. Ion know about you but I'd hesitate before adding his social media grammar into his basketball scouting report, tbh.

Pretty sure there's a correlation between intelligence and bball iq, tbh.

he'll also be the best rebounding guard but let me sip my tea (Westbrook dosent count, his whole team boxes out for him)

[timvp]

Pretty sure there's a correlation between intelligence and bball iq, tbh.

Don't think there is, tbh. Matt Bonner is a smart guy (Academic All-American of the Year at Florida, in fact) but his basketball IQ was pathetic. Even when he was old and had been in the system forever, he made rookie mistakes.

Robert Horry, on the other hand, had a genius level basketball IQ and you don't hear about many Rhode Scholars coming out of the state of Alabama, tbh.

[FkLA]

Don't think there is, tbh. Matt Bonner is a smart guy (Academic All-American of the Year at Florida, in fact) but his basketball IQ was pathetic. Even when he was old and had been in the system forever, he made rookie mistakes.

Robert Horry, on the other hand, had a genius level basketball IQ and you don't hear about many Rhode Scholars coming out of the state of Alabama, tbh.

There's anomalies but in general I'd put my money on an intelligent guy. There's plenty of examples of idiots with low bball IQs (JR Smith, Swaggy P, Michael Beasley, DRose, Steve Francis, etc).

[timvp]

There's anomalies but in general I'd put my money on an intelligent guy.

Meh, I've just never noticed much of a correlation, tbh. David Robinson, Manu Ginobili, Malik Rose (double major at Drexel) are all smart guys but I wouldn't say any of the three had notable basketball IQs -- and I say that as a big fan of all three players. You can find exceptions on either end of the spectrum but I don't think real IQ correlates to basketball IQ, IMO.

[TDMVPDPOY]

instagram got at it again

[Pavlov]

You old farts need to take your Geritol and call it a night.

[TDMVPDPOY]

he'll also be the best rebounding guard but let me sip my tea (Westbrook dosent count, his whole team boxes out for him)

lol tell that to jkidd or westbrook who crash the boards to pad empty stats

dj is no different to those clowns who crash the boards as a pg, its nothing special, but its better then nothing...

every time this clown opens his mouth, something is looming like an injury, fck this clown anyway

[tholdren]

You old farts need to take your Geritol and call it a night.

Todays nba is so bad you can instagram post your way to the lottery with less skill than a high school starter. See lonzo ball.

[Pavlov]

Todays nba is so bad you can instagram post your way to the lottery with less skill than a high school starter. See lonzo ball.

Meh, you old farts know there have been overhyped draft busts for decades. Why spend what's left of your life using social media to about using social media?

[pad300]

Meh, I've just never noticed much of a correlation, tbh. David Robinson, Manu Ginobili, Malik Rose (double major at Drexel) are all smart guys but I wouldn't say any of the three had notable basketball IQs -- and I say that as a big fan of all three players. You can find exceptions on either end of the spectrum but I don't think real IQ correlates to basketball IQ, IMO.

MANU ?!?!

Burn the heretic!

Seriously, what do you want to call his ability to see passes/plays that no one else on the court does?

[picnroll]

MANU ?!?!

Burn the heretic!

Seriously, what do you want to call his ability to see passes/plays that no one else on the court does?

I’ll go with Robinson and Rose but agree on no way with Manu. Manu was like Picasso, if you’re expecting the eyes and nose to be in the right place he was a stoned fool, but if you valued creativity and a different perspective on the reality of basketball Manu was a genius.

[tmtcsc]

What did he say?

[picnroll]

What did he say?

Maybe this will work. Manu had a very high basketball iq but applied it in a very unconventional way.

[tmtcsc]

Murray hasn't proven anything other than he can rebound, yet he constantly talks a bunch of about greatness. Get that word out your mouth and concentrate on being a good point guard, how 'bout that?

[Dverde]

Maybe this will work. Manu had a very high basketball iq but applied it in a very unconventional way.

Like fouling a layup when you’re down three. Or leaving Ray Allen, the best opposing shooter, to try to rebound over Chris Bosh when down three points.