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That pretty much tells the tale.
Draft Range: 4 to 7
De'Andre Hunter
School: Virginia
Position: SF
Age: 21
Height: 6-foot-7
Weight: 225
Wingspan: 7-foot-2
Draft Range: 4 to 7
Combine Results? No
Why: Game-changing combination of length and quickness defensively. Could be an elite defender from Day 1. He's also strong enough to defend the low-post well in today's NBA and smart enough to thrive in a team concept. Offensively, he projects to be a strong shooter. Connected on 43.8% of his three-pointers and 78.3% of his free throws as a sop re. Unselfish, moves well without the ball and plays hard.
Why Not: Good not great athlete -- explosiveness in tight quarters lacking. Ball-handling needs work and not the most natural passer. Doesn't disrupt much on defense ... more of a nuisance. His length suggests he could slide to the 4 but his lack of rebounding ability might make that difficult. Upside as a scorer somewhat limited because he's not naturally demonstrative.
Spurs Fit: He'd slide right into the starting lineup and, long-term, would fit well next to White, Murray, Walker and Poeltl.
Spurs Comparison - Ceiling: 2015 Kawhi Leonard
Spurs Comparison - Floor: 2013 Kawhi Leonard
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That pretty much tells the tale.
Draft Range: 4 to 7
This is the dream scenario. Anything outside of White/Murray/Lonnie should be on the table for this guy.
Nice meth pipe dream
I’d trade Flat Earther for a bag of manure from my local farm tbh.
That's a of a floor. 2013 Leonard was still a very good role-player. Even many of the top prospects have a lower floor than that.
You're only going to end up keeping at most two of those guys anyway. May as well trade the one you think will be the worst. Murray has more upside than White, but he's also up for a big money sooner. Lonnie has it over both of them, but I guess if you don't think he will be healthy enough to get close to his ceiling, you may as well strike while he has value.
Yeah, better floor would have been somewhere between rookie Kawhi and second-year Kawhi ... but somewhere around there. Depending on how much one worries about Zion's weight impacting his health (and his ability to keep his weight reasonable), Hunter might be the safest pick in the draft.
Unless they are all max guys don’t see why SA couldn’t keep them all especially with DeRozan and LMA off the books in 1-2 years.
Because it would still be a lot of money spent on guards. Maybe you keep them all on "value" deals, but if they're not max guys anyway, why are they stopping you from picking up the "ideal" wing?
I think if you view DeRozan as a SF then you can be fine with Lonnie there. Just saying I don’t see it being an issue; at least not one worth worrying about now.
No reason to give up youth right now unless you have to. I don’t see giving up youth + LMA or DeRozan as a viable path. They are worth more than draft picks since we’ve seen good things already.
You can be a non max guy and still be good.
You trade any of those guys if his ceiling and floor include any year of Kawhi tbh.
As I said, I see it like this:
Walker
Murray Poeltl
White
If Hunter is at or above Walker's level, then Murray or especially White shouldn't stop you from getting him. Ultimately, you don't draft a contender. You use the draft to supplement your main guys, but you aren't going to select a whole le-worthy team in a couple of years and just hold onto them for a decade. That's why the Spurs' approach of going from David to Tim to Parker/Manu to Leonard made sense. They're not all supposed to have the same window.
If Hunter, Murray and Walker are your core going forward, then so be it. Pay them and surround them with smart draft picks and savvy signings. You start paying everybody because "Hey, they're worth it in a vacuum". you get to be like the Iggy Nuggets or the Grit-and-Grind Grizzlies real fast.
Presti's problem wasn't that he traded away one of his young core. Indeed, he was just working under constraints given to him by the owner. The problem was that he picked the wrong guy to dump. Harden, KD, Ibaka and Adams would likely still be a strong unit today if he had realized that Westbrook was never really going to get better than he was back then.
word x1000
any year Kawhi Leonard without uncle Dennis = perfect choice
Unfortunately, Laker bound. Probably assurance if they won't be getting a star SF this offseason.
Hunter was the guy I wanted for the Spurs from the beginning of the season. I thought he might make it just about to where the Spurs would be drafting. By mid-season I thought the Spurs might be able to move up to get him. Now I don't think they can even do that.
He's one of those guys people look back and say, "Man, the Spurs should have traded up for him." But it was never a realistic possibility.
How does that help the later LeBron years? They proved last year that even a group of decent younger players won't be enough support to get 'Bron into the playoffs. DD may be better than anyone they can get to sign there. Throw in a youngster or two, and it's a boat race.
But SA drafted all of those players. Just like OKC and GS did. You can also use the draft to supplement and keep low cost but great role players, but I really don’t see why keeping the core together if they are all actually good would be an issue.
Do I think if SA believes they have Kawhi that they should not trade any youth? Nope. Just saying that they are rebuilding so youth matters more and also really saying that I don’t think SA should be trading LMA/DeRozan plus them in deals like this.
Was more a conversation about trading DeRozan/LMA than the youth.
But unless we hear something about LMA/DeRozan being available the point is moot
I wish there was a way to get this guy.
Maybe using Walker together with our two firsts to move up in the draft and get a top 10 pick...
This is when I wish the draft came AFTER free agency. One of the Lakers or Knicks are going to underwhelm in the offseason (my bet it’s the Lakers). If they’re pressured to bring in a star then they are more likely to make #4 in swap for a DeRozen type.
Nah. Neither team kept "all those players". OKC traded Harden and Green away. GS trade for Bogut and Iggy. In particular the Warriors knew not to let just "actually good" guys block the way to really improving. The Spurs can sign whomever they want, but they aren't going to win a le paying three 6-5 guards big contracts.
Youth only matters if it's the "right" youth, though. You trade as many Jeff Greens and Harrison Barneses away that you need to go get the Leonards of the world. Would I rather trade White/Murray/Poeltl or Aldridge/DeRozan? It's almost certainly one of the former group if the acquisition is a guy like Hunter. There's no reason to worry about the "future" of White or Murray when you have a chance to contend in the next two years. This isn't trading Zion for Davis or something. Even the team's platinum prospect in Walker is just a high silver prospect in general. The chances that either player will be an All-NBA/perennial All-Star guy are slim. For both to be would require extremely long odds. They're good players who are likely to get better, and I'd like to keep them. But I'd prefer two A-tier prospects and DeRozan and Aldridge rather than two A-tier prospects, two big-tier prospects and just one or none of Aldridge or DeRozan.Do I think if SA believes they have Kawhi that they should not trade any youth? Nope. Just saying that they are rebuilding so youth matters more and also really saying that I don’t think SA should be trading LMA/DeRozan plus them in deals like this.
Was more a conversation about trading DeRozan/LMA than the youth.
But unless we hear something about LMA/DeRozan being available the point is moot
I would have rather the Spurs done a trade for a better shooter rather than DeRozan. Then, I'd feel better about the team being able to find perimeter players in the draft to fill in the gaps. I'm not against a DMDR trade at all. But I don't see it as a win-now trade unless another high-caliber vet is coming in. If the goal isn't to win now, I don't think someone like White really matters. Once he gets done with his rookie deal, his value goes WAY down.
Would love to see him on the Spurs. Not sure how that happens though.
Some team willing to deal with us and netting a top8 pick
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