Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 456789 LastLast
Results 176 to 200 of 204
  1. #176
    Veteran Degoat's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    4,291
    I don’t think Murray will get the max guys, idk if that’s a joke or not lol I mean he has star potential but he’s gotta show something to even consider offering anything close to the max.

  2. #177
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    I don’t think Murray will get the max guys, idk if that’s a joke or not lol I mean he has star potential but he’s gotta show something to even consider offering anything close to the max.
    The first-tier max is handed out pretty liberally nowadays. I'd be elated if he has a good season and signs for anything appreciably less than the full max. It's just a status thing.

  3. #178
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    I expect Murray to get the max in 2020 if he comes back and plays decently well.
    What do you consider "decently well." He'd have to play better than my definition of "decently well" to get the max.

  4. #179
    OH YOU LIKE IT!!! slick'81's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    18,493
    Max money isnt bad for 6 ppg and 2 assists

  5. #180
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    100,825
    I don't believe he does, but if I were PATFO, I might see how low Paul is willing to go. I expect Murray to get the max in 2020 if he comes back and plays decently well. So if they could shave off $8-10 Million APY by getting him early, it's a good move. But I also think the team is going to go for cap space next summer, so having Murray at his cap hold would be more helpful than having him locked in would.
    wow... i dont see that tbh

  6. #181
    Veteran rjv's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    10,201
    ST is full of old white dudes tbh.
    you forgot uneducated.

  7. #182
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    wow... i dont see that tbh
    What do you consider "decently well." He'd have to play better than my definition of "decently well" to get the max.
    I think if he has another year like 17-18, he'll get it. An All-Defense nod, good impact stats and some signature performances on national television would build his brand. His professed loyalty to the Spurs will be a bigger factor than I think some folks here assume. The team needs a franchise player as much as it needs to not tank. Like a number of teams that have maxed questionable talents, they just need some hope to pull the trigger. People talk about him as if he's a true defensive anchor and the possible missing piece to a le run. If he's seriously that, how do you not give him whatever it takes?

    Of course, I think we all agree that if he comes in and shows huge improvement he'll get it and likely deserve it. But I think that if he just plays well enough to hold onto the starting job despite the difficulties that could cause, they'll at least be willing to match a max offer sheet or be willing to offer the max to keep Paul from messing up the team's FA plans by looking to other clubs.

  8. #183
    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    14,364
    Murray will get MVP before Leonard does. Book it

  9. #184
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    I think if he has another year like 17-18, he'll get it. An All-Defense nod, good impact stats and some signature performances on national television would build his brand. His professed loyalty to the Spurs will be a bigger factor than I think some folks here assume. The team needs a franchise player as much as it needs to not tank. Like a number of teams that have maxed questionable talents, they just need some hope to pull the trigger. People talk about him as if he's a true defensive anchor and the possible missing piece to a le run. If he's seriously that, how do you not give him whatever it takes?

    Of course, I think we all agree that if he comes in and shows huge improvement he'll get it and likely deserve it. But I think that if he just plays well enough to hold onto the starting job despite the difficulties that could cause, they'll at least be willing to match a max offer sheet or be willing to offer the max to keep Paul from messing up the team's FA plans by looking to other clubs.
    He's going to have to do more than average 8, 6 and 3 to get max money from anyone. There have been some questionable talents given max dollars, but those players at least put up big numbers. I can't think of a player who got a max with numbers anywhere close to that pedestrian. Closest would be, who, Harrison Barnes? Even he averaged 12, 5 and 2 and played big minutes on a championship team at a young age.

  10. #185
    Pimp Marcus Bryant's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 1998
    Post Count
    1,021,992
    How many uncles does he have?

  11. #186
    Big Body look_at_g_shred's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Post Count
    7,325
    You have to admire his desire to stay with the spurs. Whether or not that ends up playing out is another thing. It could totally be the other way around where he doesn't turn out to be anything great and it's the spurs who move on from him. It is refreshing to have an outspoken player on the spurs unlike kawhi who said nothing. Like others have mentioned, it's a possibility DJ could play a role in FA recruitment down the line with how he interacts with other players around the league.

  12. #187
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    9,914
    Murray's season two years ago didn't blow me away. He disrupted passing lanes with his long wingspan, but other than a few games, he underwhelmed on offense and he didn't look like a guy that would create a lot of shots for other players. Mostly he looked like a guy that could guard point guards and switch and guard taller players if the Spurs decided to switch on everything. Spurs hyped him a lot coming into this year. I hope that wasn't just wishful thinking.

    That said, Pop once compared Forbes to Curry, so I don't know if they are being realistic in acting like Murray is a superstar in the making.

  13. #188
    R.C. Deez Nuts. Mugen's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Post Count
    23,765
    Murray's season two years ago didn't blow me away. He disrupted passing lanes with his long wingspan, but other than a few games, he underwhelmed on offense and he didn't look like a guy that would create a lot of shots for other players. Mostly he looked like a guy that could guard point guards and switch and guard taller players if the Spurs decided to switch on everything. Spurs hyped him a lot coming into this year. I hope that wasn't just wishful thinking.

    That said, Pop once compared Forbes to Curry, so I don't know if they are being realistic in acting like Murray is a superstar in the making.
    He was probably talking about thai food tbh

  14. #189
    Believe.
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    908
    Kid likes to talk and is still young. I hope he’s as good as most claim he is, but he still has to prove a lot. If he comes back with a solid 3 point shot and finish better at the rim, then I would say he has what it takes and it would be proof of “work”... until then? Talk is cheap

  15. #190
    Chopper Ed Helicopter Jones's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    14,068
    He's going to have to do more than average 8, 6 and 3 to get max money from anyone. There have been some questionable talents given max dollars, but those players at least put up big numbers. I can't think of a player who got a max with numbers anywhere close to that pedestrian. Closest would be, who, Harrison Barnes? Even he averaged 12, 5 and 2 and played big minutes on a championship team at a young age.
    I think Murray will be expecting a big payday even if he falls short of a max player performance-wise. The tough part will be if he lands in that say 12-7-4 range, along with solid defense. He'll be showing upside without anything really proven to justify a long, max deal. As much as I like him, I could see him being done as a Spur when his current contract expires due to his salary expectations exceeding his accomplishments. My hope is he's either really great, or really awful when he's back to playing so the guessing game won't ensue in contract time...emphasis on really great.

  16. #191
    Mostly good takes Dverde's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Post Count
    4,162
    Last year, Justise Winslow got 39M for three years. Would you give Dejounte the same deal? Winslow seemed the most comparable player in the prior draft class.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ract-extension

  17. #192
    Veteran superbigtime's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Post Count
    3,225
    Murray has a long way to go

  18. #193
    Veteran Degoat's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Post Count
    4,291
    I think it just depends, if spurs really believe he will be a star and they wanna lock him up I’d say a 4year/60 million deal. I think that shows the spurs are committed to him but idk

  19. #194
    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Post Count
    32,115
    Last year, Justise Winslow got 39M for three years. Would you give Dejounte the same deal? Winslow seemed the most comparable player in the prior draft class.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ract-extension
    yeah I'd give Murray that deal. He wouldn't accept it though. Winslow had been nothing but a bust before that. He played way better this year, but his stock was way lower than Murray's is, even accounting for the injury.

  20. #195
    Derrick White fanboy FkLA's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Post Count
    25,085
    Just trade his ass so the best PG on the team can get the spot that is rightfully his, tbh.

  21. #196
    Learn2Excel TheCerebral1's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Post Count
    600


    @3 minute mark

    Never Forget
    . That's all it said.

  22. #197
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Post Count
    100,825
    Just trade his ass so the best PG on the team can get the spot that is rightfully his, tbh.
    why would we trade the only all-defensive team player on our roster?

  23. #198
    5. timvp's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Post Count
    59,905
    Last year, Justise Winslow got 39M for three years. Would you give Dejounte the same deal? Winslow seemed the most comparable player in the prior draft class.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ract-extension
    If Murray has a good year (something like ~28 MPG, 10-12 PPG, ~7 RPG, ~5 APG with an All-Defensive team selection), I think the 4-year, $52 million Marcus Smart contract could be the right comp to point at. But, again, that'd be if Murray bounces back well from his ACL tear.

  24. #199
    Mahinmi in ? picnroll's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    11,245
    Just trade his ass so the best PG on the team can get the spot that is rightfully his, tbh.
    I doubt you’ll commit to this because it might compromise your ability to whine and about Murray but how about give us a prediction about how bad Murray’s numbers will be next year, points,
    ; rebounds , steal assists,2 pt FG%, 3 pt FG%

  25. #200
    Don't stop believin' Dex's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Post Count
    27,659
    I like DJ, but he is nowhere close to a max player right now by any stretch of the imagination.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •